kupo 201 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I haven't seen those. That's sickening. Yeah, in some threads devoted to outfits featuring fur (that mostly looked faux) that she wore shortly after the fur controversy, people would be saying **** like that. And that's when I'm like, okay...enough. Time for some people to re-evaluate their stances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupo 201 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 no, but it's one way. i mean, it's not like every single one of peta's members are simultaneously focusing on this one specific scenario. i think if you passionately care about this as peta does, being ultra famous and wearing (=promoting) fashion in the image of fur is offensive for them. this is their prerogative. i just can't see the issue, sorry. Well, I mean, I don't think they're bad people for making this one complaint, or any complaint of this nature in general (flour and paint bombings are less acceptable, in my mind). You're right; it's their prerogative. They absolutely have the right to call out people for wearing fur. The problem here is that stole looks almost like a toy. And if it is faux, calling Gaga out in this instance *is* totally message defeating, because here you have a celebrity endorsing the alternative you claim to want, and still calling her heartless. It makes PETA look extra ill-informed, hasty, and exploitative. And this is why other animal rights orgs are probably better alternatives to PETA. Because PETA does waste a lot of their time and energy on these flashy campaigns that contain little to no substance that is actually going to *inform* the public. And informing them of the nature of the treatment of animals harvested for fur is probably the best--and just about only--way you're going to convert the unconverted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Well, I mean, I don't think they're bad people for making this one complaint, or any complaint of this nature in general (flour and paint bombings are less acceptable, in my mind). You're right; it's their prerogative. They absolutely have the right to call out people for wearing fur. The problem here is that stole looks almost like a toy. And if it is faux, calling Gaga out in this instance *is* totally message defeating, because here you have a celebrity endorsing the alternative you claim to want, and still calling her heartless. It makes PETA look extra ill-informed, hasty, and exploitative. And this is why other animal rights orgs are probably better alternatives to PETA. Because PETA does waste a lot of their time and energy on these flashy campaigns that contain little to no substance that is actually going to *inform* the public. And informing them of the nature of the treatment of animals harvested for fur is probably the best--and just about only--way you're going to convert the unconverted. look, how i, and probably peta, see it, is you win some, you lose some. i don't think it's true to say that everyone views them that way, or that that's all they've done. maybe someone who was on the fence or couldn't care less about animal welfare and rights might have heard about the flour bombing of innocent celebrity's expensive fur coats and thought "peta is messed up i don't support that trash" but at the same time, for the first time in their life, paid a bit more attention to what they find moral and right. i think that's a win. but we could argue till we're blue in the face about the methodology of charity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Because PETA does waste a lot of their time and energy on these flashy campaigns that contain little to no substance that is actually going to *inform* the public. And informing them of the nature of the treatment of animals harvested for fur is probably the best--and just about only--way you're going to convert the unconverted. sure. they've got all this info up on their site, that someone might stumble across researching them post flour bombing. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino 5,120 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 hey, you two :party: 月にかわって、おしおきよ！🌙 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupo 201 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 sure. they've got all this info up on their site, that someone might stumble across researching them post flour bombing. :) I fully suspect this is their primary intention. Again, the problem is that it's probably one of the least effective ways to actually spread the core message. I stand behind a lot of what PETA stands for. But their methods frequently leave something to be desired. And as Daniel Dennett once said, "there's nothing I like less than bad arguments for a view that I hold dear." Methodology does matter to me, because it's part of the message. But, you're probably right, we could argue this till we're both blue in the face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth 450 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Why do I feel like all of this fur she's been wearing is actually fake and she's gonna get PETA so mad that they flour bomb her or something. Then she can produce all of the receipts to show that it's fake and then they'll look stupid. I think she's basically just playing with them now. She's making them mad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins 40 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 But you can tell the scarf is fake. What do they want? She chose to wear faux-fur and they still want to rip her. It looks so fake omg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterNatalie 0 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 It looks so fake omg. It does and it's so obvious. PETA needs to lay off, they want to snag their hands around any celeb they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yildiz 1 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 gurll u know ima be a stan hoe if it was "fake fur" but even if this type of fox fur is fake, whos to say that the past ones were? The Hermes coat was faux, no idea about the others though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
god 0 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I don't know a lot about they actually do but I'm pretty much that there are a lot of things that happen to animals around the world and all you do is attacking a pop singer for wearing fur, for example? That's not all they do. I don't like PETA at all, but whether or not I agree with their tactics, they're supporting a good cause. They're not just attacking her for wearing for. They're attacking her because (A) As a highly influential person who's expected to be a role model, not only is she wearing fur, but she's also a liar. Period. (B) She's Lady Gaga, and everyone pays attention to Lady Gaga. So what does that do? It puts PETA in the spotlight for a minute and helps their cause. Everyone needs to get over this. PETA is PETA, they're known for doing outrageous things. Kind of like Lady Gaga. If you think about it, us acting shocked and horrified at PETA for attacking Gaga is no different than the people who flip out when Gaga does something weird? In other words, what the **** did you expect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalMonster 53 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 PETA can go and f u c k off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaMonstr 26 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Yes because I'm sure the singer of Born This Way and head of the Born This Way Foundation needs someone to "buy her a heart".... F*** out hurr PETA. No one really cared about your organization anyway. It's all about the ASPCA tbh EDIT: Honestly if PETA keeps focusing and wasting their efforts on fake animal fur, I'm gonna have to start a "PETA is ****ing pointless" group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miley 5,006 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 PETA can go and f u c k off. :fthis: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster_95 0 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 PETA You give animal rights activists a bad name... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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