The Child 18,997 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, RoverLoader said: Can you share any examples? He’s islamophobic for example. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverLoader 1,254 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, CrazyMonster said: He’s islamophobic for example. That isn't an example. That's just your opinion entirely stated without a back up. An example would be where you provided a specific incident with quotes and evidence to confirm your accusation. As a side note, you understand that Islam is essentially right wing conservatism don't you? Do you think the Wahhabism of Saudi Arabia and mullahs of Iran are left wing activists? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, RoverLoader said: mullahs of Saudi Arabia nnn there are no mullahs in SA as a side note, just say you’re islamophobic too and carry on. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,671 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 The same people supporting politicians like these would be the same ones supporting the Nazis in the 1930’s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 hours ago, geopang said: You sound like the real fascist here. You don’t have to agree with other’s opinions, but you can’t erase them and their speech either This is the mindset of why Trump won. Yes we all have opinions, but lately people have been using “opinions” as an excuse for hate. And I’m curious to why we must make that excuse. There are nasty people in this world. Would the KKK be just an opinion/speech if that ideology became the mindset of 50% of America in the next couple years? It’s cute now until extremism takes flight. We have standards and should keep it that way. But I also believe in taking on the OP with facts and why they might be wrong instead of just banning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geopang 4,831 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said: This is the mindset of why Trump won. Yes we all have opinions, but lately people have been using “opinions” as an excuse for hate. And I’m curious to why we must make that excuse. There are nasty people in this world. Would the KKK be just an opinion/speech if that ideology became the mindset of 50% of America in the next couple years? It’s cute now until extremism takes flight. We have standards and should keep it that way. But I also believe in taking on the OP with facts and why they might be wrong instead of just banning. Hate is subjective. And secondly, how is anything Marine has said been “hateful”. At this point, anything you leftists disagree with is deemed “hateful”. secondly, the KKK is merely a name at this point, and has no threat whatsoever in the U.S. When was the last time you saw a KKK member in the street? Or heard of a KKK member hanging a black person or gay person? There’s only a small amount of actual KKK members, and there are bigger threats to worry about like terrorism. Yes we have standards, and it should be to uphold the constitution and allow freedom of speech. You don’t have to agree with it. You have the right to boycott and be offended. But the moment you start silencing, is the moment you become the fascists you all despise so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverLoader 1,254 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, lego said: nnn there are no mullahs in SA as a side note, just say you’re islamophobic too and carry on. Yes I know. I didn't insert the correct term. As a side note, I dated an iraqui asylum seeker for 18 months. I think he was more qualified to talk about that point of view than you. Not supporting extreme forms of Islam isn't islamophobic. What a hypocrite you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, RoverLoader said: As a side note, you understand that Islam is essentially right wing conservatism don't you? Do you think the mullahs of Saudi Arabia and Iran are left wing activists? Girl... what? Most western Muslims are left-leaning in politics...just look at almost every major Muslim politician in the United States...and using mullahs as an excuse (from a corrupt, extremist country that doesn't even have any at that) is making what point? Do you guys actually believe every Muslim man has like, 4 wives or something? Do y'all actually believe that every Muslim woman is submissive to anything with a penis and wears burqa or something? Do y'all actually know anything about Islam and how people practice it? The denominations, the interpretations, the variety of practices that vary just by country and region?! Baffling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, RoverLoader said: Yes I know. I didn't insert the correct term. As a side note, I dated an iraqui asylum seeker for 18 months. I think he was more qualified to talk about that point of view than you. Yikes. So you think one person from ME is an expert on such a big topic and he knows better than me (how the f you know who I am and what I know??). When did we ever talk? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, RoverLoader said: Yes I know. I didn't insert the correct term. As a side note, I dated an iraqui asylum seeker for 18 months. I think he was more qualified to talk about that point of view than you. She's Muslim, sweetheart. I'm Muslim. Do you genuinely believe that any of us on here would be right-wing conservatives and be queer? Or supporting someone like Lady Gaga?! But then again...with this thread... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverLoader 1,254 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Edonis said: Girl... what? Most western Muslims are left-leaning in politics...just look at almost every major Muslim politician in the United States...and using mullahs as an excuse (from a corrupt, extremist country that doesn't even have any at that) is making what point? Do you guys actually believe every Muslim man has like, 4 wives or something? Do y'all actually believe that every Muslim woman is submissive to anything with a penis and wears burqa or something? Do y'all actually know anything about Islam and how people practice it? The denominations, the interpretations, the variety of practices that vary just by country and region?! Baffling. LOL The irony. You're talking from a very myopic American perspective. Do YOU actually know anything about Islam? I've read the Quran and the Hadith's. I've worked all over the middle east, Lebanon, Dubai, SA, Israel and Jordan. Have you even stepped out of your country? Muslims in American are left leaning..lol We AREN'T talking about that boo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverLoader 1,254 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, lego said: Yikes. So you think one person from ME is an expert on such a big topic and he knows better than me (how the f you know who I am and what I know??). When did we ever talk? And the same goes for you? So let me correctly predict this: you're an American who has never been out of your own country let alone the middle east right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 minute ago, RoverLoader said: And the same goes for you? So let me correctly predict this: you're an American who has never been out of your own country let alone the middle east right? hahaha WRONG again FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatboyisarobot 152 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, geopang said: Hate is subjective. And secondly, how is anything Marine has said been “hateful”. At this point, anything you leftists disagree with is deemed “hateful”. secondly, the KKK is merely a name at this point, and has no threat whatsoever in the U.S. When was the last time you saw a KKK member in the street? Or heard of a KKK member hanging a black person or gay person? There’s only a small amount of actual KKK members, and there are bigger threats to worry about like terrorism. Yes we have standards, and it should be to uphold the constitution and allow freedom of speech. You don’t have to agree with it. You have the right to boycott and be offended. But the moment you start silencing, is the moment you become the fascists you all despise so much. Ahh yes, the long awaited third wave of GagaFascism, prophesied by our lord and savior boomkack in the year 2011. Gagadaily today, tomorrow THE WORLD. Spoiler In all seriousness though, freedom of speech means the government can't take you down for saying something it doesn't like, not that if you go on a gay-af forum like this you won't get dragged into oblivion. Freedom of speech /= freedom from critique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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