Miracle 14,068 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, nicolasrumet said: While the statement is bad, the circumstances surrounding it are unclear. It appears that the rant was about his lenders? And for those who don't know, MJ had painkiller addiction, source CNN: "While the doctor said "nothing implied" that Jackson was abusing painkillers, there was one incident during house call in 2002 that caused him to suspect Jackson might be getting additional shots of the powerful opioid Demerol from another doctor. He noticed "a little blood spot" on Jackson's T-shirt after he gave him a shot, he said." Hallucinations, confusion and change of mood are common side-effects of such opiods. To say that MJ was antisemite is completely false as documented in this article, he even had Rabbi friends: https://www.thejc.com/news/world/michael-jackson-and-the-jews-1.10160 So to me, this sounds more like rant that he did about his lenders when he was probably suffering from the side-effects of such opioids, which create the effect of hallucination, imagining things that are not true, such as people conspiring against you etc.. and who would go on a rant in a voicemail? That goes to show that he wasn't "sober" when he was doing it. And for the "jew me, sue me" part it's ****ing ridiculous. He was using "jew me" as in "persecute me". It was definitely not antisemitic. So yes, when you take such things out of their context, they'll look bad on the face of it. So, don't be simple-minded and look at the surrounding circumstances of such things. Drugs do not justify your racist actions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hybrid 10,959 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, nicolasrumet said: You realize that the word "arab" is considered a slur? Yet most people don't know. The same thing with the word MJ used. No matter how hard you guys try to make it sound like the N-word. It isn't. If it was, it wouldn't be displayed on TV. Want proof of the word being used on TV? Your entire argument of defense is if a word is being used on TV, and then you come at us for being slaves of the media No familyâs safe when I sashay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,870 Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, nicolasrumet said: You realize that the word "arab" is considered a slur? Yet most people don't know. The same thing with the word MJ used. No matter how hard you guys try to make it sound like the N-word. It isn't. If it was, it wouldn't be displayed on TV. Want proof of the word being used on TV? Arab such as Jew could be both considered a slur, but are not like k*ke or sand *****. just because some things can be said on TV, doesnât mean itâs acceptable. Yikes   Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Melech said: The song lyrics are a minor part of the article in the OP. Thatâs not the reason why the thread was created. Anyway, you would be okay if Gaga used the N-word in Born this way since Born this way is a song of the tolerance? You canât compare the usage of those two words in mainstream media sources. N word was forbidden long time ago and no one uses it except for black people. Even tho k*ke is as bad itâs not forbidden and many mainstream media sources are using it UNFORTUNATELY. I know itâs not but I canât help but feel like you want us to hate him for something that is not valid reason. Also I already said my thoughts about the recording. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,870 Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Biggest Fan said: this reallï»ży a cï»żonspiracy or is the truth? Conspiracy. This is how old fashioned antisemitism looks like. Blaming Jews for anything and for bein powerful (which is not even true) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickens in Malibu 7,873 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, Melech said: Arab such as Jew could be both considered a slur, but are not like k*ke or sand *****. just because some things can be said on TV, doesnât mean itâs acceptable. Yikes  Look at your cherry-picking. How cute. Arab and K*ke (again the only reason I'm censoring is because mods can be subjective) are both uncensored on TV, yet they are considered as slurs by some people. It's just people sometimes don't know it's a slur. N-word on the other hand, is universally viewed as a slur. There's a big difference. Try again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,870 Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, ReginaGeorge said: You canât compare the usage of those two words in mainstream media sources. N word was forbidden long time ago and no one uses it except for black people. Even tho k*ke is as bad itâs not forbidden and many mainstream media sources are using it UNFORTUNATELY. I know itâs not but I canât help but feel like you want us to hate him for something that is not valid reason. Also I already said my thoughts about the recording. I donât control you and neither want to. If you want to hate him, do it. If you donât want to, donât. but Iâm allowed to talk about MJâs problematic tendencies if you like it or not. I think him using k*ke is very offensive to the Jewish community. Just like his rant.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggest Fan 988 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Melech said: Conspiracy. This is how old fashioned antisemitism looks like. Blaming Jews for anything and for bein powerful (which is not even true) Are you Jewish? Ive come across people that do Believe that. why tho, they become powerful? đ€ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,870 Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, nicolasrumet said: Look at your cherry-picking. How cute. Arab and K*ke (again the only reason I'm censoring is because mods can be subjective) are both uncensored on TV, yet they are considered as slurs by some people. It's just people sometimes don't know it's a slur. N-word on the other hand, is universally viewed as a slur. There's a big difference. Try again. K*ke is an a slur in the English language especially used by KKk and other neo-nazis. You are seriously defending the usage of k*ke. Yikes  Jew or Arab describe a group of people, itâs not on the same level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,870 Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, Biggest Fan said: Are you Jewish? Ive come across people that do Believe that. why tho, they become powerful? Itâs not true that Jews are powerful. That is why itâs an anti Semitic conspiracy. It goes way back in time but itâs still commonly used these days, especially by neo nazis, but itâs also very common almost everywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggest Fan 988 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Melech said: Itâs not true that Jews are powerful. That is why itâs an anti Semitic conspiracy. It goes way back in time but itâs still commonly used these days, especially by neo nazis, but itâs also very common almost everywhere  đ€ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, nicolasrumet said: Look at your cherry-picking. How cute. Arab and K*ke (again the only reason I'm censoring is because mods can be subjective) are both uncensored on TV, yet they are considered as slurs by some people. It's just people sometimes don't know it's a slur. N-word on the other hand, is universally viewed as a slur. There's a big difference. Try again. Arab is not a slur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayria 463 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, A Hybrid said: Your entire argument of defense is if a word is being used on TV, and then you come at us for being slaves of the media Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Boy 2,932 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Lol @ people all âhes cancelledâ. I think hes been cancelled since tou know.....he died. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas P 18,377 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 People who still defend Iâm a simple guy to please, if you like Melodrama, we chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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