MonsterOfficial 11,079 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I mean... The Martian was nominated for Best Musical/Comedy, so why not ASIB exorcise my mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakariah 11,722 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, RAMROD said: Last role doesn't mean anything, especially if the noms are very competitive. Look at this year with Daniel Day Lewis, who also starring his last movie, Phantom Thread. It is not about pity, it will be insulting to the actors who got it. true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood 24,424 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I just hope that this is not true and it will be nominated under musical categories. luna’s advocate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal 768 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I think they’re playing a game here. They know that the Drama category is always packed, yet they chose that for now. My guess is even though they’re essentially sacrificing the major possibility of bagging Best Actor/Actress in the Comedy/Musical category, they want to risk winning the Drama categories for more credibility come Oscar night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinzo 9,639 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Neal said: I think they’re playing a game here. They know that the Drama category is always packed, yet they chose that for now. My guess is even though they’re essentially sacrificing the major possibility of bagging Best Actor/Actress in the Comedy/Musical category, they want to risk winning the Drama categories for more credibility come Oscar night. This. It's a huge gamble they're taking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,197 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 12 hours ago, Azor Ahai said: Those films were nominated for having a "funny" tone and thus being comedies. That's why it's called Comedy/Musical. "Campy" films go there. I mean I can see ASIB competing in that category but I think it better fits the drama category. Well you just proved my point. The category is indeed defined loosely, and when The Martian, a science-fiction with very minor comedic undertones fit into that category, or I, Tonya a predominantly dramatic movie could fit into that category, A Star Is Born being nominated under Musical/Comedy will not attract controversy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,197 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 12 hours ago, SpaceAce said: Exactly, so why place a drama in the musical / comedy category? Lol that’s just another way for backlash to grow immensely. I understand perfectly what a genre is. However when it comes to the Golden Globes, lets not pretend the drama category is equal to the comedy/musical category in any manner. La la Land was an anomaly. And nobody believes Emma Stone deserved best actress for what little she did in that film. Except it is a musical. Drama is such a widely defined genre that any movie with a story could be classified as drama. Hell even The Greatest Showman and La La Land could be twisted into being defined as drama if 'anything with a plot' automatically means it's drama. And if I, Tonya, Joy, The Martian could be nominated under Musical/Comedy, A Star Is Born will not attract any controversy or backlash if it did the same. And Emma Stone was acclaimed for her role I don't know what world you were living in to say Emma did 'very little' in that film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,197 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 12 hours ago, SpaceAce said: I’ve seen the movie and most people will come out of the theatre remembering 4 songs. Tops. In no way is this film a musical. Musicals are not defined by how many songs an audience will remember after leaving the theatre I left the theater after watching La La Land remembering only City of Stars and Audition (The Fools Who Dream), maybe A Lovely Night as well but that doesn't mean it's not a musical. Hell I don't even remember any song from The Greatest Showman apart from This is Me. Because according to you, the audience have to remember the entire soundtrack for it to be classified as a musical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,094 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 They wouldn't put ASIB in that category unless they think they have a good chance. It's receiving acclaim, it seems to have a strong plot and storyline, it's covering some heavy themes - I actually think the story is kinda GG bait tbh and with her previous win Gaga seems like a strong contender. I'll be totally honest - there where better performances (for better characters) when Gaga won for AHS. The Golden Globes are less likely to have that pop star stigma, it might actually give her an advantage and a win over Glenn for best actress in a drama gives her an edge for The Oscars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krave 58 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 So a win for Best Original Song is her only chance then... (we can also know which songs WB is gonna push for Oscars season from the Golden Globes nominations) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
memomemome 1,478 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 If it win it's a truly genius idea. If not then... Pretty mess. I don't know but maybe because when Oscar come, people tend to weigh more to the drama than musical/comedy? If that's the case then they really bet a huge bet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 81,971 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Coming for that second Golden Globes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 81,971 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Bradley said: Except it is a musical. Drama is such a widely defined genre that any movie with a story could be classified as drama. Hell even The Greatest Showman and La La Land could be twisted into being defined as drama if 'anything with a plot' automatically means it's drama. And if I, Tonya, Joy, The Martian could be nominated under Musical/Comedy, A Star Is Born will not attract any controversy or backlash if it did the same. And Emma Stone was acclaimed for her role I don't know what world you were living in to say Emma did 'very little' in that film. Yeah but I definitely think ASIB is more focused on the plot than on the music. Music is there because the plot is about two artists working in the music industry. Of course it has a musical dimension but I really feel like they want to emphasize the acting and story over the songs. Them not pushing the soundtrack could confirm this tbh.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyerased 2,886 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Neal said: I think they’re playing a game here. They know that the Drama category is always packed, yet they chose that for now. My guess is even though they’re essentially sacrificing the major possibility of bagging Best Actor/Actress in the Comedy/Musical category, they want to risk winning the Drama categories for more credibility come Oscar night. This. They’re building a narrative here. They want it to be seen as a “prestige” film. Something the Academy people will take more seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StJerome 164 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 19 hours ago, Bradley said: Lmao who ever said that you need to 'break into songs randomly' to be a musical? What kind of unclear and non-sensical definition is that To put it a different way– in musicals, the characters are not necessarily self-aware that they are ‘singing songs’ and the plot and communication is happening through the music. And any main character sings, whether the character is actually a ‘singer’ or not in the story. In ASIB, the songs are more of an integrated part of the story, as the characters are musicians, and accompany what is happening in the narrative but aren’t advancing the narrative. And I may be assuming here, but no non-musician characters are singing in the film. Numbers in musicals can also have dancers and fantastical spectacles where reality is suspended. I don’t think this happens in that way in ASIB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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