Tim & Heidi LEAVING Project Runway!

[Spartacus 4,485]

29 minutes ago, OliverViennese said:

Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of Mrs Klum (lol), so there may be a chunk I'm missing when it comes to her, creating her celebrity persona. I've never watched a minute of Project Runway and only know some episodes of Germany's Next Topmodel and handful interviews. /Disclaimer

Heidi Klum is obviously a supermodel. There are things she can do and things she can't. She can get high profile modeling jobs on international territory, e.g. "making it" in the US. She can't and never did get offers from big names to do Haute Couture modeling in Paris. She can market herself, getting numerous television shows. She can't really give constructive criticism to aspiring models - at least not on her show Germany's Next Topmodel - as she is partly speaking about stuff she never really did herself, when it comes to modeling.

I guess ANTM and Germany's Next Topmodel are similiar in how these shows work, claiming to cast supermodels while really being about making reality tv. That is a given for every television casting show, i know that. There is something really special however, about how unlikable Heidi Klum comes off on screen on Germany's Next Topmodel. I don't know anyone who likes her, involving people who watch her show for the kii of it all regularly. The lightest comment would be that she's annoying, but it goes on to heavier criticism how she's an egomaniac, while my psychology professor at university named her an example of a manic sadistic person, as she creates this television show that takes joy in degrading 15 and 16 year old girls - talking about their bodies, letting them change in public spaces, having journalists going though their social media and trying to humiliate them for missteps on national television and every season having a girl that's way more beautiful than Klum cut her hair, while - let's be real, she would never cut her hair that short; the list goes on and on. It is also widely known, that no model that has been casted as "Germany's Next Topmodel" had ongoing success as a model, but also nearly all of them had to go through lengthy court trials to be removed from their terrible contracts, that they "won" with the show. Guess who's (mis-)managing the winners of Germany's Next Topmodel? Mrs Klum's father. There's also been press coverage how behind the scenes, it's all just bullocks and the Klum-participant interaction is pretty much nonexistent (which is fine, i get it, it's a job but Klum seriously overdoes this "I care for y'all" bs on the show, which is why everyone here has seen through her as maybe the fakest person on TV). 

With all that in mind - how people have respect for her as someone who made it internationally as a model and as someone who is great at marketing themselves, but who has NEVER never been recieved as "nice" - I was confused, when I saw some American talkshow interviews and she put on this fake "cute"-act. And it dawned on me, that some things may be lost in translation afterall.

Summa Summarum I feel that there's a difference between how she markets herself in Germany and internationally. In Germany she puts on this very serious, "professional" act, when she's being interviewed. On US televion, she is more "cute" it seems which is something that no one in Germany would ever buy into, as she is a bitch. A smart bitch at that - considering her success, so good for her.

Disclaimer (again): I'm no Klum fan, so I don't know either all her shows, nor all her interviews - so maybe I'm wrong about how she paints herself. Again, it was just that I was put off with some interview of hers, which didn't match with what I feel how she is viewed in Germany. /Disclaimer

I've never felt that kinda vibe coming from her.  But belittling those young models is wrong.

1 hour ago, SHALLOW said:

Yes, i looked it up when i started watching it cause i wanted to know what he thought about Gaga and he said something negative about the Meat Dress and he said he did not approve. I don't know if things have changed but i still don't like him

He was rude, but also said that “She’s remarkably talented and the world’s a better place for having her...”

https://hollywoodlife.com/2011/12/13/tim-gunn-lady-gaga-bully-costumes/

[tomsches 17,384]

 

I don't want to live on this planet any longer...

[Abramovic 1,652]

12 minutes ago, tomsches said:

 

I don't want to live on this planet any longer...

I am excited for their new project for amazon. I guess it will almost be the same show!

[Andrea B 16,733]

they're so cute I haven't watched PR in a long time but I basically grew up watching their show

[Antichrist 9,818]

somebody gif the dancing please 

[Sickness 1,978]

I wish Netflix had all the PR seasons here 

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53 minutes ago, Abramovic said:

I am excited for their new project for amazon. I guess it will almost be the same show! 

If they do the exact same thing when Amazon bought that BBC car show, it will be the same show but with a different name

[SHALLOW 16,229]

What about Nina tho? Is she gonna be in the rebooted version?

[Bear 7,515]

@tomsches merged your thread here

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On 9/7/2018 at 6:47 PM, SHALLOW said:

Yes, i looked it up when i started watching it cause i wanted to know what he thought about Gaga and he said something negative about the Meat Dress and he said he did not approve. I don't know if things have changed but i still don't like him

Well in the beginning he didnt like her, it was during her first years when she was mostly wearing (he calls it) "costumes"

I do believe that his opinion has changed becauze she's showed now how versatile she can be etc... he also showrd this during the last couple of seasons; he mentions her here and there in a more positive way...

[SHALLOW 16,229]

7 minutes ago, Funkymonkey said:

Well in the beginning he didnt like her, it was during her first years when she was mostly wearing (he calls it) "costumes"

I do believe that his opinion has changed becauze she's showed now how versatile she can be etc... he also showrd this during the last couple of seasons; he mentions her here and there in a more positive way...

I still don't like him. He's kinda cringey 

[tomsches 17,384]

On 9/7/2018 at 7:45 PM, OliverViennese said:

Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of Mrs Klum (lol), so there may be a chunk I'm missing when it comes to her, creating her celebrity persona. I've never watched a minute of Project Runway and only know some episodes of Germany's Next Topmodel and handful interviews. /Disclaimer

Heidi Klum is obviously a supermodel. There are things she can do and things she can't. She can get high profile modeling jobs on international territory, e.g. "making it" in the US. She can't and never did get offers from big names to do Haute Couture modeling in Paris. She can market herself, getting numerous television shows. She can't really give constructive criticism to aspiring models - at least not on her show Germany's Next Topmodel - as she is partly speaking about stuff she never really did herself, when it comes to modeling.

I guess ANTM and Germany's Next Topmodel are similiar in how these shows work, claiming to cast supermodels while really being about making reality tv. That is a given for every television casting show, i know that. There is something really special however, about how unlikable Heidi Klum comes off on screen on Germany's Next Topmodel. I don't know anyone who likes her, involving people who watch her show for the kii of it all regularly. The lightest comment would be that she's annoying, but it goes on to heavier criticism how she's an egomaniac, while my psychology professor at university named her an example of a manic sadistic person, as she creates this television show that takes joy in degrading 15 and 16 year old girls - talking about their bodies, letting them change in public spaces, having journalists going though their social media and trying to humiliate them for missteps on national television and every season having a girl that's way more beautiful than Klum cut her hair, while - let's be real, she would never cut her hair that short; the list goes on and on. It is also widely known, that no model that has been casted as "Germany's Next Topmodel" had ongoing success as a model, but also nearly all of them had to go through lengthy court trials to be removed from their terrible contracts, that they "won" with the show. Guess who's (mis-)managing the winners of Germany's Next Topmodel? Mrs Klum's father. There's also been press coverage how behind the scenes, it's all just bullocks and the Klum-participant interaction is pretty much nonexistent (which is fine, i get it, it's a job but Klum seriously overdoes this "I care for y'all" bs on the show, which is why everyone here has seen through her as maybe the fakest person on TV). 

With all that in mind - how people have respect for her as someone who made it internationally as a model and as someone who is great at marketing themselves, but who has NEVER never been recieved as "nice" - I was confused, when I saw some American talkshow interviews and she put on this fake "cute"-act. And it dawned on me, that some things may be lost in translation afterall.

Summa Summarum I feel that there's a difference between how she markets herself in Germany and internationally. In Germany she puts on this very serious, "professional" act, when she's being interviewed. On US televion, she is more "cute" it seems which is something that no one in Germany would ever buy into, as she is a bitch. A smart bitch at that - considering her success, so good for her.

Disclaimer (again): I'm no Klum fan, so I don't know either all her shows, nor all her interviews - so maybe I'm wrong about how she paints herself. Again, it was just that I was put off with some interview of hers, which didn't match with what I feel how she is viewed in Germany. /Disclaimer

She's VERY different in gntm. In pr she is actually more serious and professional whereas in gntm she's just Silly and fake 

Ps Im Austrian 

[GunninMan 1,403]

I am not sure why anyone cares about this show. It is 1000% fake and rigged from the get-go. I had a professor in fashion school about two years ago that was a former contestant and was on the all stars season as well. Her name is Elena slivnyak if you want to look her up. She told our class that on all stars the whole cast was in the know about how Tim Gunn had an earpiece in and the cast could hear the producers telling him what to say and who to talk to more. They all knew who won that season well before it was over, and she said the same things some of you have said about Heidi Klum. She basically called her a psychopath lol.

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16 minutes ago, GunninMan said:

I am not sure why anyone cares about this show. It is 1000% fake and rigged from the get-go. I had a professor in fashion school about two years ago that was a former contestant and was on the all stars season as well. Her name is Elena slivnyak if you want to look her up. She told our class that on all stars the whole cast was in the know about how Tim Gunn had an earpiece in and the cast could hear the producers telling him what to say and who to talk to more. They all knew who won that season well before it was over, and she said the same things some of you have said about Heidi Klum. She basically called her a psychopath lol.

Girl I love Elena but we all know she’s bitter lol. What’s the problem about Tim Gunn having an earpiece? He’s on a television show. And he doesn’t do All Stars so she probably meant the regular season. If she knew who won from the get go why did she come back for All Stars?

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1 hour ago, Bio said:

Girl I love Elena but we all know she’s bitter lol. What’s the problem about Tim Gunn having an earpiece? He’s on a television show. And he doesn’t do All Stars so she probably meant the regular season. If she knew who won from the get go why did she come back for All Stars?

I get he’s on a television show, but that just verifies the whole idea that reality competitions are fake and meaningless, I mean can you count on more than one hand anyone who has shot to stardom from any reality competition series? I can’t. And to touch on your other point, this was during all stars when they heard the producers telling Tim what to say, so I would’ve agreed more about the bitter thing if that would’ve been the first round.