Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/political-parties-rejecting-capitalism-145632855.html "Each of these parties is now lurching toward anti-capitalist statism, with the main difference being how, exactly, the government should control the economy" Hence far Left or Right diminishes freedom. "President Trump, who comes from the world of business but acts more like a despot rewarding friends and punishing enemies." This is one reason I don't think Trump is good for the US like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 127,346 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 capitalism is out of control in general, but it's not Trump that needs to deal with it.. he's the example of why capitalism lost control.. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,843 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/14/2018 at 7:06 PM, River said: capitalism is out of control in general, but it's not Trump that needs to deal with it.. he's the example of why capitalism lost control.. We have chrony Capitalism now instead of the original Capitalism say of the 1950s It's very damaging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,843 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/14/2018 at 7:06 PM, River said: capitalism is out of control in general, but it's not Trump that needs to deal with it.. he's the example of why capitalism lost control.. We have chrony Capitalism now instead of the original Capitalism say of the 1950s It's very damaging! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Economy said: We have chrony Capitalism now instead of the original Capitalism say of the 1950s It's very damaging Militarily industry dominates gov. financial policy in the US. Politicians try to conceal it tho. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
That J 12,166 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 We need an overhaul from the inside out. If a president is doing fine and the people still want them, stay for 19 years! Ya get the nation going one way again, takes 8 years to get it there then ya vote the other side in, 4-8 years to dismantle all the good done by the other, vote them out, change back, 8 years to fix, 8 to dismantle...over and over and over! Its DUMB. Not to mention cush congress and how they can get paid to literally block each other from doing anything for years and years and decades. It's all become nothing more than a tug of war and meanwhile middle American is stuck in place, health care is bananas, the majority is in full debt by the time they are 21 and well over half the country cant afford to live based off the amount they are paid. Idk the solution but I do know the consensus and the feel right now. Temperatures are high and this is reaching a head that will explode in a huge capacity one day. Vote.org The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than The Driver Of The Screw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,843 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Woolfsmck said: Militarily industry dominates gov. financial policy in the US. Politicians try to conceal it tho. That's definitely an issue That's a lot of financial resources and labor devoted to a sector that does not produce an industrial physical good or a service that can can consumed It doesn't improve people's quality of life, and it's terrible for making that trade deficit Trump hates so much worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Not entirely...the companies that get gov. contracts, (Boeing) have employees who spend their wayeatinthe cities they live in, Plus our allies love to buy the eqiptment for their countries militarily Domestic spending suffers and policy is less flexible ... Also, gov. Contractors aren't necessarily exposed to the normal supply and demand dynamic that fuel price regulations and quality....so some stuff costs way more than is should, wasting tax payers money. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Not entirely...the companies that get gov. contracts, (Boeing) have employees who spend their wages in the cities they live in, Plus our allies love to buy the eqiptment for their countries militarily Domestic spending suffers and policy is less flexible ... Also, gov. Contractors aren't necessarily exposed to the normal supply and demand dynamic that fuel price regulations and quality....so some stuff costs way more than is should, wasting tax payers money. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,843 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Woolfsmck said: Not entirely...the companies that get gov. contracts, (Boeing) have employees who spend their wages in the cities they live in, Plus our allies love to buy the eqiptment for their countries militarily Domestic spending suffers and policy is less flexible ... Also, gov. Contractors aren't necessarily exposed to the normal supply and demand dynamic that fuel price regulations and quality....so some stuff costs way more than is should, wasting tax payers money. What I mean is that its not output from a productive thing. Those "employees" from boeing for example could spend the money just as easily if the government wrote them that check for doing nothing. Either way their consumption is dependent on tax dollars and their output is not a service that can be sold I'm just saying, Military to a reasonable spending degree I understand for defense but there's not real economic gain from overspending on it You can get the same economic Ripley effect with infrastructure spending and give contracts to construction companies Instead and build something that actually brings benefit to the Countries functional state and in turn competitiveness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Economy said: What I mean is that its not output from a productive thing. Those "employees" from boeing for example could spend the money just as easily if the government wrote them that check for doing nothing. Either way their consumption is dependent on tax dollars and their output is not a service that can be sold I'm just saying, Military to a reasonable spending degree I understand for defense but there's not real economic gain from overspending on it You can get the same economic Ripley effect with infrastructure spending and give contracts to construction companies Instead and build something that actually brings benefit to the Countries functional state and in turn competitiveness I agree, more beneficial production from domestic spending....but corruption in political leaders clouds the chances of this. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas85 400 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 17 hours ago, Economy said: We have chrony Capitalism now instead of the original Capitalism say of the 1950s It's very damaging! "Crony capitalism" is a redundant term because all capitalism is crony in nature. USA wasn't really a "capitalist state" in the 1950s. It was more like a fascist police state that silenced and imprisoned dissidents and banned political parties. The 1950s USA surely supported some pro-market economy policies but market economy and capitalism are two different things. Capitalism is an ideology that advocates giving all the power to unaccountable private tyrants and that's why it is a terrible idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheodoreRx 1,540 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, andreas85 said: "Crony capitalism" is a redundant term because all capitalism is crony in nature. USA wasn't really a "capitalist state" in the 1950s. It was more like a fascist police state that silenced and imprisoned dissidents and banned political parties. The 1950s USA surely supported some pro-market economy policies but market economy and capitalism are two different things. Capitalism is an ideology that advocates giving all the power to unaccountable private tyrants and that's why it is a terrible idea. Preach it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, andreas85 said: "Crony capitalism" is a redundant term because all capitalism is crony in nature. USA wasn't really a "capitalist state" in the 1950s. It was more like a fascist police state that silenced and imprisoned dissidents and banned political parties. The 1950s USA surely supported some pro-market economy policies but market economy and capitalism are two different things. Capitalism is an ideology that advocates giving all the power to unaccountable private tyrants and that's why it is a terrible idea. State controlled economiies are no less tyrannical or morally superior...the people have no incentive to produce either ... like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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