Taylorrgh 679 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 29 minutes ago, pedrohemg said: Express Yourself - 0.5M copies sold. Born This Way: 4M okay this unfair because at that time people could actually sale ALBUMS so of course single sales were lower. btw I would rather have people buy my album over a single any day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaXXXon 1,489 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Nice comparison. I think we shouldn't look at the exact singles and their commercial performances or how much the albums sold, because that's just useless. What we should notice is that BEDTIME STORIES and JOANNE are follow-up albums to their most hated work. Erotica and ARTPOP have that in common that they "ended" the non-stop commercial success and popularity of the albums and singles before it and both were called out by the gp and the press as being "over." So those comparisons make sense. ARTPOP was Gaga's Erotica in that it nearly destroyed her career and Joanne is her Bedtime Stories as it was used to regain support from the GP and the industry. Now, Madonna followed Bedtime Stories up with a starring role in Evita AND a soundtrack album to that very same movie. Gaga is following up Joanne with a starring role in ASIB AND a soundtrack album. Coincidence? I don't think so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRoof 21,600 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, jaXXXon said: Nice comparison. I think we shouldn't look at the exact singles and their commercial performances or how much the albums sold, because that's just useless. What we should notice is that BEDTIME STORIES and JOANNE are follow-up albums to their most hated work. Erotica and ARTPOP have that in common that they "ended" the non-stop commercial success and popularity of the albums and singles before it and both were called out by the gp and the press as being "over." So those comparisons make sense. ARTPOP was Gaga's Erotica in that it nearly destroyed her career and Joanne is her Bedtime Stories as it was used to regain support from the GP and the industry. Now, Madonna followed Bedtime Stories up with a starring role in Evita AND a soundtrack album to that very same movie. Gaga is following up Joanne with a starring role in ASIB AND a soundtrack album. Coincidence? I don't think so so LG6 is Ray Of Light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Of Venus 731 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The OP just proves that she should've served another straightforward pop bop album between TFM and BTW, which would've solidified her hit catalog. BTW is sonically and visually too overbearing for an artist who just blew up two years prior. The Judas campaign was controversial but there was no substantial message behind it unlike the LAP video. Imagine her singles run starting from TFM: Album #2 (2009): Bad Romance --> Telephone --> Alejandro Album #3 (2011): Smash Bop 1.0 --> Smash Ballad --> Smash Bop 2.0 --> Experimental Flop Album #4 (2013): Born This Way --> Edge Of Glory --> Marry The Night --> You And I Album #5 (2016): Applause (Super Bowl Single) --> Do What You Want (ft. Drake) --> Sexxx Dreams (ft. Rihanna) The greatest female hitmaker confirmed. Madonna whew? Mariah whew? Rihanna whew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebe Buffay 12,525 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, pedrohemg said: YES. In an era where you can download almost anything for free, 4M copies is extraordinary. Express Yourself could not even peak at #1. And MJ is MJ, Billie Jean reached number 1 because he was the KING and Madonna isn't even half of what he was. Buying singles in the 80's was far more harder than it is today. They didn't have iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music or YouTube to stream or download the song, so that's why people waited for the album to come out and go to their nearest music store and buy it. That's why songs from pre-2005 have sold less than 1M copies, except if the song was REALLY big (Like a Prayer, Vogue, ...Baby One More Time, Genie in a Bottle, That's the Way Love Goes, Like a Virgin...). People had to actually go outside and buy just a CD/vinyl that contains just one song. Ain't nobody got time for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJP 725 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Alejandroo said: And Evita is her "A Star Is Born" then that means gaga is getting an oscar for original song! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorrgh 679 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, EvilRegal said: Buying singles in the 80's was far more harder than it is today. They didn't have iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music or YouTube to stream or download the song, so that's why people waited for the album to come out and go to their nearest music store and buy it. That's why songs from pre-2005 have sold less than 1M copies, except if the song was REALLY big (Like a Prayer, Vogue, ...Baby One More Time, Genie in a Bottle, That's the Way Love Goes, Like a Virgin...). People had to actually go outside and buy just a CD/vinyl that contains just one song. Nobody got time for that. exactly! why waste money on a $2.99 single when you can buy the album for like $9.99 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I never really saw Joanne as being similar to Bedtime Stories... But now I can’t stop thinking it Shook Both are deemed to be less “outragous”, more personal, more sombre and all that jazz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LM 4,035 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Tyler Henry said: okay this unfair because at that time people could actually sale ALBUMS so of course single sales were lower. btw I would rather have people buy my album over a single any day And now you can download the single illegally in a second and that's a much bigger threat to the single's sales than the fact that people used to buy more albums. So it's actually unfair to Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LM 4,035 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 hours ago, gts14 said: Each of this albums had 3 massive hits and 1 flop single: Like a Virgin - Material Girl - Into The Groove - Angel Bad Romance - Telephone - Alejandro - Dance In The Dark What? Dance In The Dark was a radio single in 3 countries with no MV and no promo. It's not even considered to be a single Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shame 25,360 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 If history does indeed repeat itself... then glue down your edges for Gaga's Ray of Light cuz she's coming with her most adventurous and spiritual album, selling 16M copies worldwide hunties angels forever, forever angels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr S 7,938 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 There are similarities and we can only hope ASIB is Evita and LG6 is ROL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorrgh 679 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, LM said: And now you can download the single illegally in a second and that's a much bigger threat to the single's sales than the fact that people used to buy more albums. So it's actually unfair to Gaga uhhh nice try but compared to 1980s/90s, single sales in the late 00's and now are MUCH stronger so still your point is invalid. there was piracy in the 1980s and 90s as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swakby 4,100 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 17 hours ago, pedrohemg said: I don't care. I'm pointing the song Madonna claims Gaga literally copied, sold much less than Born This Way, and this is an official information from RIAA. You obviously know nothing about how the industry works. Back in the 1990s, if your single sold that much, it was a good indication that it was a big hit. Songs rarely passed the 1 million mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadMadonsterStan 578 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Omg this was exactly on point on what I thought never had the guts to make the thread though, but you took all my words out of my mouth and how I see their careers are similar in a way Don't go for second best, baby Put your love to the test Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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