Why has "...Ready for it?" flopped?

[ordinarynam1310 2,453]

20 minutes ago, Oivind said:

I think it's pretty random how successful any piece of popular music is. Taste is subjective, many critics are mostly concerned about their credibility, and teenagers are often concerned about what's hot and what's not. Whichever artist your older siblings listened to, will often turn out not to be hot in your eyes, so whichever artist was hot a few years ago, have an uphill struggle to stay on top. I just don't think quality (whatever that means) has much to do with success, when it comes to mainstream music. I happen to think "...Ready for it?" is excellent, and the album is excellent too, but for some reason, Lorde is hotter among credibility-craving critics, and I don't know which name is the hottest among teenagers at the moment. I just know it's not Taylor Swift or Lady Gaga anymore. BTW, I Iove Lorde, but IMO, "Reputation" is a much better album than "Melodrama".

Taylor is still one of the hottest name but i can see her fading away a little bit after this era since the way she and her team promote is kinda messier than usual and her petty drama card had been used so I dont know what she gonna do next to keep people's interest. 

About the next big thing, i dont see that in anyone now tbh. Teens nowadays are into trap and hiphop/rap more than pop 

[Jed 7,716]

if RFI flopped MR flopped

[SaKura 21]

1 hour ago, Easy said:

Because Red was her TF, 1989 was her TFM and reputation is her BTW. That’s why the second single flopped after the highly anticipated first single’s short lasting success. 

Rep is Taylor's 6th album. BTW is Gaga's 2nd or 3rd

[TEETHTEETH 1,709]

...because no one was ready for it. 

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,319]

2 hours ago, Rumours1977 said:

I know a lot of people were turned off by LWYMMD. I think the era itself could have been as big as 1989 if she had released End Game as the lead (as it and NYD are the only songs on Reputation that I bothered listening to again .)

That’s an interesting comparison that I hadn’t thought of... but yeah I think you might be right. 

WW Judas is a way bigger hit than Born This Way 

[Decodekid 28,229]

imo

i think that the song is weak and not radio friendly, the chorus is.. 

[TheSlash 14,539]

1 minute ago, Decodekid said:

the chorus is.. 

What chorus? It's like 'Swine' (name-drop of the single's name and instrumentals) 

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Don't get me wrong, I love both songs  

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But yeah, RFI's mv is 

 

 

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Just now, TheSlash said:

What chorus? It's like 'Swine' (name-drop of the single's name and instrumentals) 

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Don't get me wrong, I love both songs  

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But yeah, RFI's mv is 

 

 

my bad, by chorus i meant the drop, which is simple af

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2 hours ago, Ziggy said:

It’s not a good song to a lot of people and larger audiences are not here for her. Tbh she’s being obnoxious because everyone else moved on from this drama and she talks about how she wants to not be a part of it but this album just keeps bringing her drama back up again. Then she has this faux tough girl image that rings really hollow. Gaga had the horns, K8tea had the blond spiky cut, and Taylor has this. You won’t always resonate with the wider public.

The horns were not intended to make people think it was beautiful, but it's iconic. More than Taylor's carreer. 

[Altair 2,000]

I feel like the album was only riding on the hype of her drama. 

The GP already heard what they needed to hear from her after the lead single. 

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1 hour ago, Jed said:

if RFI flopped MR flopped

well MR kind of flopped, even though I heard this song a million times on radio, it's not popular on youtube or in the GP's mind

[Ziggy 11,795]

3 hours ago, kevindjibouti said:

The horns were not intended to make people think it was beautiful, but it's iconic. More than Taylor's carreer. 

Lol I meant in terms of polarizing decision making, that’s all. The horns were polarizing for sure, as is Taylor’s current image. I just made the comparison to say that every pop star does something not everyone will love. It’s inevitable once you reach a certain level of success.

[Ziggy 11,795]

4 hours ago, Oivind said:

I think it's pretty random how successful any piece of popular music is. Taste is subjective, many critics are mostly concerned about their credibility, and teenagers are often concerned about what's hot and what's not. Whichever artist your older siblings listened to, will often turn out not to be hot in your eyes, so whichever artist was hot a few years ago, have an uphill struggle to stay on top. I just don't think quality (whatever that means) has much to do with success, when it comes to mainstream music. I happen to think "...Ready for it?" is excellent, and the album is excellent too, but for some reason, Lorde is hotter among credibility-craving critics, and I don't know which name is the hottest among teenagers at the moment. I just know it's not Taylor Swift or Lady Gaga anymore. BTW, I Iove Lorde, but IMO, "Reputation" is a much better album than "Melodrama".

Critics like Lorde more because of the way she goes about talking about her love. There’s a certain level of conscious awareness to call your album about heartache “Melodrama”. The perspective she has on a very relatable subject was the allure of it whereas Taylor’s perspective is still kind of petty. Then add in the musicality. Oh lord. Jack Antonoff is Lorde’s RedOne; they work so well together. If you listen to her go through the process of making, say, Sober (there’s a podcast on it), you hear all the layers of and thought and technical prowess that went into it. And it all just seems like this beautiful kaleidoscope of sounds that work together. And so critics who listen for such technique (above personal tastes) responded to her unique perspective on burgeoning youth. Reputation, meanwhile, says absolutely nothing about TSwift and her reputation beyond the obvious, AND her producers this time around are obviously not natural fits like Antonoff is to Lorde. I mean, listen to LWYMMD next to Sober (both Antonoff). The musicality just is on another level in Sober. It’s like RedOne making BR and then Dance on the Floor. Night and day difference because of chemistry. Obviously people will enjoy albums based on different things and that’s dope, I’m glad you like Reputation! But critics are supposed to dig into the nitty gritty and Melodrama soars a lot higher there than Reputation.

[Green Eyes 112]

The GP are getting ova ha. This is her PRISM (still good, but not the reaching the heights of TD/1989) and next era will be her Witness. It's the same for many pop girls... if they don't got the pure raw talent and artistry to back up their brand... they are temporary. 

[Zombiecat 16,646]

The rapping/verses probably put people off

 

the chorus is a bop though and the first 2 of them should've had the instrumental come in like the last one did