Borislshere 53,084 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, SlayGagaloo said: I read the whole thread and nobody said that though You're upset cause this thread doesn't have 20 pages of Beyoncé praise? They're obviously not talking about this thread but go look at any other Beyoncé thread and tell me you don't see nothing but shady remarks or people saying she just stays silent on most issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imwoahvicky 4,248 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, SlayGagaloo said: I read the whole thread and nobody said that though You're upset cause this thread doesn't have 20 pages of Beyoncé praise? Your post implies that Beyoncé helps people while all Gaga does is tweeting Useless hashtags, but you have the nerve to call out the "delusional people"? Again, the post was to mock the members of this site who, as I said, think Beyonce has done absolutely nothing in her entire career. I came on this site countless of times seeing posts that Beyonce has 'said nothing about black matters' when apparently Gaga has with a hashtag (that has done absolutely nothing ) and nowhere did I say that I'm upset that this thread doesn't have 20 pages of Beyonce praise? I mean, if anything, it just proves that everybody ignores what she does while going about their day thinking Gaga has made world peace happen ⚜ Roll Deep ⚜ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayGagaloo 16,152 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Borislshere said: Hilarious. That doesn't stop the hate threads that are filled with "she's overrated!! She's a theif!!!". Those comments are repeated 101 times. But go ahead and make up bs excuse as to why no one on this cult site pays attention to the good bey does but would rather spend their time calling her overrated or ignore what she's actually done charity wise. You're mixing between Bey the musician and the Humanitarian. Yeah many people think she's an overrated artist and they are entitled to their own opinions. That doesn't mean they don't appreciate all the good work she does. Yet you liked a post saying that all Gaga does is tweeting Useless hashtags?! Over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,891 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bomtox said: I think you entirely missed the point the entire point of my comment was to mock how members on GGD think Beyonce has done absolutely nothing for matters in the world and think she just sits in her studio all day letting people write for her about political/social issues in the world to 'get that overrated acclaim' I know what your point was and I haven't seen anyone saying that Beyonce does nothing. But for the record, this is the first time I've actually seen her doing proper charity work, considering how much she holes herself away. And I don't know if she would have done this had it not happened in her hometown, lets be real. To play devil's advocate, it was likely another chance for her to virtue signal, to put another racial spin on things like she did with the Katrina reference in Formation (only speaking out for black people has become her staple recently). And actually, she does pretty much leave her album making to other people, it's been proven. She has a team that sorts out her business affairs, she's no more involved than the average celebrity in such matters. She just wants you to think she's in control. 8 minutes ago, Borislshere said: Hilarious. That doesn't stop the hate threads that are filled with "she's overrated!! She's a theif!!!". Those comments are repeated 101 times. But go ahead and make up another bs excuse as to why no one on this cult site pays attention to the good bey does but would rather spend their time calling her overrated or ignore what she's actually done charity wise. I wasn't trying to be funny. And those hate threads are pretty accurate. Some people just don't want to admit their fave is problematic. And maybe some people repeat the same comment many times but I don't. We're not just one big group that all think the same way. And I just said why people don't say much about the good she does. It's harsh to say, but threads about a celebrity's involvement in charity are always boring. Beyonce isn't special in that regard, such threads usually have very few replies because, as I just said, there's not much you can say about good behaviour but a hell of a lot you can say about bad behaviour, which is why negative threads are so popular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imwoahvicky 4,248 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: know what your point was and I haven't seen anyone saying that Beyonce does nothing. But for the record, this is the first time I've actually seen her doing proper charity work, considering how much she holes herself away. And I don't know if she would have done this had it not happened in her hometown, lets be real. She's actually done alot of things if you want me to give you a link, I'd be glad to! http://www.essence.com/galleries/10-not-so-publicized-times-jay-z-and-beyonce-gave-back#680121 ⚜ Roll Deep ⚜ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqJezus 1,027 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Pretty certain it is pronounced Bay as in the term bae. Honey B, Queen B, are plays on the first letter of her name, whereas Bey is a play on the term "bae: before all else/before anyone else"... Thats my interpretation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imwoahvicky 4,248 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Also @StrawberryBlond aren't you the one who jumps on every bandwagon hating Beyonce thread and trash her over and over again? Explain to me why she's problematic? Aren't you also the one who also thinks she turned black 'just last year' You also seem to think she uses racially charged issues for her own benefit to push herself further, couldn't I also say that Gaga used LGBT issues for her own benefit too? ⚜ Roll Deep ⚜ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,891 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 31 minutes ago, Bomtox said: She's actually done alot of things if you want me to give you a link, I'd be glad to! http://www.essence.com/galleries/10-not-so-publicized-times-jay-z-and-beyonce-gave-back#680121 I actually knew about all that stuff, minus Nepal. But notice how a lot of that stuff is to do with her hometown, her own country and helping other black people? Her aims at helping a little bit further than that are limited. And I have seen these charitable things publicised, especially the UN stuff, so I think it's not as hidden as the article makes out. If anything, it's the charity work of non A-listers that get downplayed/criticised, like they aren't worth as much, no matter what they give. Having a classy image like Beyonce helps your charity work get taken so much more seriously, no matter how small. 12 minutes ago, Bomtox said: Also @StrawberryBlond aren't you the one who jumps on every bandwagon hating Beyonce thread and trash her over and over again? Explain to me why she's problematic? Aren't you also the one who also thinks she turned black 'just last year' You also seem to think she uses racially charged issues for her own benefit to push herself further, couldn't I also say that Gaga used LGBT issues for her own benefit too? Not every single one. I've been to enough threads about the same topic now that I just avoid them. She's problematic in ways that are too extensive to go into here, so I'll just give you a quick rundown. But notably, that she claims credit for stuff she doesn't write, has stolen video concepts and live performance ideas from others without credit, she treated her DC bandmates terribly by leaving the instant her career took off (meaning I never liked her from the outset and couldn't understand why everyone fawned over her), she uses the most popular artists around at the time to collab with and then dumps them when they've served their purpose, she's had surgery despite claiming to be all natural and photoshops her photos which go against her claims of positive body image, she parades her children too much, she has been extremely snooty about Kim Kardashian being Kanye's wife and is likely partly the reason why Jay broke off their friendship, she's recently been using racial issues to make herself relevant and praised (she also sings about loving her negro nose, which she ironically got surgically altered and has had her skin lightened for magazines), she's money hungry and extremely narcissistic. I never said that she turned black just last year. But I have said before that she didn't start majorly being pro-black until Lemonade, likely fuelled by BLM making standing up for black issues cool. She was a general people pleaser before then. She's proven to be an opportunist her entire career, as I said before. No, I don't think Gaga uses her support for LGBT to benefit her? If anything, it only endangered her career. It's cool to stand up for black rights, not so cool to stand up for LGBT rights and she knew it. Her career went downhill after she went full force on that front but she didn't care because the issues meant that much to her as a bisexual with a big LGBT following. Beyonce knows its never been cooler to be pro-black, so she went down that route, like so many other black artists are doing right now and it's giving them all career highs. Its guaranteed to get critical acclaim and awards, so naturally, it's a very attractive route to take. I'm fully on the side of the black struggle but I just don't like how its being used to sell albums now, nor do I think the music that's being produced is anywhere near as awesome as people make it out to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imwoahvicky 4,248 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, StrawberryBlond said: I actually knew about all that stuff, minus Nepal. But notice how a lot of that stuff is to do with her hometown, her own country and helping other black people? Her aims at helping a little bit further than that are limited. And I have seen these charitable things publicised, especially the UN stuff, so I think it's not as hidden as the article makes out. If anything, it's the charity work of non A-listers that get downplayed/criticised, like they aren't worth as much, no matter what they give. Having a classy image like Beyonce helps your charity work get taken so much more seriously, no matter how small. This is what I disagree with entirely. I personally don't see the problem in Beyonce donating her own time and money to charity and problems that she herself cares about. Isn't that entirely the point of giving back to your own community that you feel passionate about? ⚜ Roll Deep ⚜ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 53,084 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: No, I don't think Gaga uses her support for LGBT to benefit her? If anything, it only endangered her career. It's cool to stand up for black rights, not so cool to stand up for LGBT rights and she knew it. Were you not around when formation came out? or when she performed at the superbowl and people said she was being anti white and that she dislikes the police? What about when the actual police tried to boycott working security at her shows?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,891 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 22 hours ago, Bomtox said: This is what I disagree with entirely. I personally don't see the problem in Beyonce donating her own time and money to charity and problems that she herself cares about. Isn't that entirely the point of giving back to your own community that you feel passionate about? There's nothing wrong with donating to causes that you feel passionate about but it all starts to look a bit suspect when you'll only give to causes closest to your heart. When white people do it, they're accused of only caring about their own people, their own personal communities, you won't seem them slumming it out helping non-white people in need, that kind of thing. Yet, one of Beyonce's goals is to help out those closest to her and no one points out that she is very selective with her causes? 22 hours ago, Borislshere said: Were you not around when formation came out? or when she performed at the superbowl and people said she was being anti white and that she dislikes the police? What about when the actual police tried to boycott working security at her shows?? That's different. That was still ultimately positive publicity. It certainly didn't harm her album sales, tour sales, video views and likes. If so many whites in general had boycotted her, then she would have flopped because Beyonce has always had a large white fanbase. So, clearly they've stuck around despite her very political attempts at shaking up racial conversation. Black people are allowed to say/do controversial racial things and have a higher chance of getting away with it. Just check out any black nationalist channel on YouTube that's allowed to stay there despite distributing nothing but hate for white people, yet any white nationalism is banned in two shakes of a lamb's tail. For all the talk of "white power is running rampant in the media and black people aren't protected," actually, it's much easier for a black person to be racist and get away with it than a white person can. Racism is never acceptable of course, but I think it's making things worse when we let one side get away with it more than the other. Not that I'm saying Beyonce's racist, but she's been stirring up racial tension lately with her choice of visuals and yet gets praised for it by most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
babs 5,093 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 2 pages in and people are already dissing Beyonce, Jesus... Glad she's helping out tbh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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