CautiousLurker 19,273 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I'm not a feminist but I like Taylor - try that on for size It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,822 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Oh, please. I'm a woman and a feminist. I'm usually far more supportive of female artists than male artists. But I can't stand Taylor. I actually like her new song but I don't like her and the majority of her music. And my reasoning behind all this is so much more complex than you give credit for. For the record, I like the song but dislike her for the ABC reasons you just listed. People can be multiple things at once, you know. You're speaking in very general terms. Not everyone is doing the things you're saying or reacting in the same way. I can blow hot and cold on rap diss tracks. Some of them have a hell of a point, others are more petty. But understand that I treat men and women equally on this front. If I think a man's diss track is bad, I'll say it. But expect me to hold women to the same standard. And the rap game is different from the pop game. Diss tracks are one of the staples of rap whereas pop doesn't do this traditionally. Rap also requires attitude whereas pop is all about being sweet and nice to get and keep fans. It makes the whole pop vs. rap attempts come off very differently. Remy Ma's diss track was widely praised because it was amazing and actually pulled up countless receipts. People will happily support a female's attempt at a diss if they feel she's got a point and puts forward evidence. Taylor has a habit of being overly petty and too vague in what she means. A lot of us want something more real than that. And also, when males do diss tracks, it tends to be over something that they were innocent in and want to set the record straight. Taylor was exposed as lying about how much she knew and proved that she was already planning media manipulation. There's nothing to defend about that. If anything, it's an apology track we should be getting from her, not a gloating track annoyed at those who exposed her as being a backstabber. And actually, Kanye was dragged by the media and the public for his Famous video. Maybe you just haven't researched it. The song is his second most disliked video of all time for a reason. And the reason why he kept on going on and on about the VMAs was because people kept asking him about it and he merely responded. There are multiple acceptable ways to respond to a situation and it all depends on the individual and the circumstances. Look, if women want equal treatment, they're going to have a learn to get used to criticism. And Taylor sure as hell isn't used to that, which is why she throws a tantrum every time she's confronted with it. I mean, she dedicated an entire song to a critic who criticised her singing ability, for God's sake. I don't care what gender you are, that s**t is the behaviour of a spoiled child. Feminism will never get taken seriously if every moment of a woman being disliked is painted as sexism. It's like black people who think someone who doesn't like them is automatically racist or gay people thinking someone who doesn't like them is automatically homophobic. Forget ego for a second and take a good look at yourself to see the real reason you're disliked. My reasons for disliking Taylor and many and varied and they are no way connected to misogyny. It's actually because I'm a feminist that I can't stand her. You need to understand the complexities of the human psyche a bit more and realise that the whole world doesn't have distinct black and white thinking on every issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Y'all drag her for dating, but then spam threads about sleeping with <insert white twink celebrity here>, you talk about "drag ha" and "clock ha" and have wet dreams about Gaga being shady but when Taylor does shade she's petty, MEANWHILE KATY RELEASES SWISH SWISH IN ALL ITS MESSINESS AND Y'ALL TALK ABOUT "Poor Katy omg". And let me not remind y'all that Katy is the one who rehashed the feud and milked it to try and save the Witness Era. But whatever. Something something Music Not The Bling something something Snake something something SJW Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio 23,538 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, SychosSoChic said: Y'all drag her for dating, but then spam threads about sleeping with <insert white twink celebrity here>, you talk about "drag ha" and "clock ha" and have wet dreams about Gaga being shady but when Taylor does shade she's petty, MEANWHILE KATY RELEASES SWISH SWISH IN ALL ITS MESSINESS AND Y'ALL TALK ABOUT "Poor Katy omg". And let me not remind y'all that Katy is the one who rehashed the feud and milked it to try and save the Witness Era. But whatever. Something something Music Not The Bling something something Snake something something SJW The problem with stans is that hey see this as "x is right and y is wrong, so I win". Life doesn't work like that lol. Taylor Swift started the Katy feuld to sell records. Kanye rehashed the feud to sell records. Katy rehashed it again to sell records. And now Taylor is doing the same. There is no "poor Katy, poor Kanye". But to Taylor stans is always "poor Tay" lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,273 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 @StrawberryBlond and @SychosSoChic both have a point, I'm torn... ... know what, I'm just gonna go listen to Friends It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argentum 1,680 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Well, Taylor isn't any different than any other artists that get in feuds with each other and make money in the process. She is no different than Katy. No different than Kanye. And the song she released is a bop. But it is not the second coming of Jesus... It still remains a pop feud song. I don't think there is any grace or winners to be found in this... The song was just the most rational move she could make to save face after what happened with Kimye... You got a bad image. Embrace it and don't apologize (and make some sweet $$$ in the process)... "Δεν είσαι αγάπη. Δεν είσαι αγάπη. Είσαι οφθαλμαπάτη. Η τέλεια οφθαλμαπάτη" - Λαίδη Γκάγκα, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 116,332 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 We don't see here a lot of topics about male artists so you don't really get to see what people are thinking about them... It's not the news of yesterday that male artists are sexualizing women in their lyrics and videos in a disgusting way, everyone knows that.. There is a hate for Ed Sheeran for this reason... Not everything is misogyny.. sometimes you just don't like the way the artist is handling things.. I think the song is childish and boring, find the misogyny here please. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,822 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 @ReginaGeorge Care to elaborate on why you disliked my post? I know my different way of looking at things can be hard for a lot of people to take, but seeing as you've responded to other people... 21 minutes ago, SychosSoChic said: Y'all drag her for dating, but then spam threads about sleeping with <insert white twink celebrity here>, you talk about "drag ha" and "clock ha" and have wet dreams about Gaga being shady but when Taylor does shade she's petty, MEANWHILE KATY RELEASES SWISH SWISH IN ALL ITS MESSINESS AND Y'ALL TALK ABOUT "Poor Katy omg". And let me not remind y'all that Katy is the one who rehashed the feud and milked it to try and save the Witness Era. But whatever. Something something Music Not The Bling something something Snake something something SJW Not all of us do the first one, I only encourage dragging and clocking when there's a good reason for it, Gaga's only shady when she has to be and always does it in a super classy way and Taylor does have a habit of being genuinely petty (it goes way back). And most of GGD hate Swish Swish, I don't know where you've been. Look up the video's thread. I won't deny that Katy is no way innocent in this either but if Taylor hadn't started it all with Bsd Blood, she'd never have had to defend herself. Basically, dragging is necessary when the situation calls for it and defending yourself is allowed. But unnecessary dragging and defending your guilty as hell ass takes it too far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: @ReginaGeorge Care to elaborate on why you disliked my post? I know my different way of looking at things can be hard for a lot of people to take, but seeing as you've responded to other people... I said what I said. I don't agree with u and I don't want to argue anymore. Do your thing, live your life as you wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaiire 2,564 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Just now, ReginaGeorge said: I said what I said. I don't agree with u and I don't want to argue anymore. Do your thing, live your life as you wish. kjsjsjs you mad cuz they brought facts about your petty fave? stay pressed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 29 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: You need to understand the complexities of the human psyche a bit more and realise that the whole world doesn't have distinct black and white thinking on every issue. I think it sums up this generation pretty well, they see everything either black or white, the lazy activism on social media on social issues has gone so far over their heads that they truly see the world black or white because they don't get their education anywhere else other than Tumblr or Twitter. I think it's sad, we're the future yet all we do is argue about cultural "appropriation" and how you should live in order to be a "good" person, there is no room for mistakes and as human beings it's impossible to not make any. For celebs now it's getting bad, reminds me of this situation with Lucy Hale who posted this on instagram And was called a "racist" and accused of cultural appropriation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 32 minutes ago, Bio said: The problem with stans is that hey see this as "x is right and y is wrong, so I win". Life doesn't work like that lol. Taylor Swift started the Katy feuld to sell records. Kanye rehashed the feud to sell records. Katy rehashed it again to sell records. And now Taylor is doing the same. There is no "poor Katy, poor Kanye". But to Taylor stans is always "poor Tay" lol. This the truest ****! It's all about marketing to get us talking, which is working since we all talking about this now. We got caught in the trap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo 7,788 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 What if I don't like Taylor because all her songs are annoying? Don't visit my profile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 26 minutes ago, Solitaiire said: kjsjsjs you mad cuz they brought facts about your petty fave? stay pressed Facts? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET. A. LIFE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, Pablo said: What if I don't like Taylor because all her songs are annoying? I was not talking about that kind of ''hate''.. you don't have to love anyone or her songs.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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