n0ne 13,105 Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Hades said: Confessions has an 80. If ARTPOP deserves a 81 then you can give Confesssions a 100. Joanne and Born this way deserve 80+ for sure though. I don't know Confessions very well. ARTBOP does not deserve that shade "My people… need to let our bitchiness out. Otherwise, it turns to bile and poisons us" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky Kit Kat 14 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 TF: 78 TFM: 85 BTW: 83 ARTPOP: 75 C2C: 75 JOANNE: 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle 14,068 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 41 minutes ago, lilmonster93 said: We all know Gaga is polarizing when it comes to critics. They love her as much as they bash her. They put her to a higher standard which is a good thing and bad thing. Because it means they recognize her talent and eclecticness, but it also opens her up to more unfair or bias ridicule. So in your opinion are her metacritic scores justified or not qualitative enough of her albums? What scores would you pick w/o being too biased? These are her scores: The Fame = 71 The Fame Monster = 78 Born This Way = 71 ARTPOP = 61 Cheek to Cheek = 64 Joanne = 67 Keep in mind, 40-60 = Mixed/Average reception. 61-80 = Generally favorable reception. And 81+ = Universal acclaim. Deserved Scores (these are not my actual scores of the albums, they would be higher with a different ranking) The Fame = 76 The Fame Monster = 85 Born This Way = 90 ARTPOP = 81 Cheek to Cheek = 69 Joanne = 83 I'll try to be as objective as I can be. These aren't my rankings of the album either, they will all have higher rankings The Fame: 75 The Fame Monster: 88 Born This Way: 93 ARTPOP: 63 Cheek To Cheek: I'm not a jazz expert. Not that the ones who reviewed the album for Metacritic were though Joanne: 87 (I like it more than TFM but TFM is objectively better produced and written) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHALLOW 16,443 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Unpopular opinion: ARTPOP should be 100. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 20,031 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 51 minutes ago, lilmonster93 said: We all know Gaga is polarizing when it comes to critics. They love her as much as they bash her. They put her to a higher standard which is a good thing and bad thing. Because it means they recognize her talent and eclecticness, but it also opens her up to more unfair or bias ridicule. So in your opinion are her metacritic scores justified or not qualitative enough of her albums? What scores would you pick w/o being too biased? These are her scores: The Fame = 71 The Fame Monster = 78 Born This Way = 71 ARTPOP = 61 Cheek to Cheek = 64 Joanne = 67 Keep in mind, 40-60 = Mixed/Average reception. 61-80 = Generally favorable reception. And 81+ = Universal acclaim. Deserved Scores (these are not my actual scores of the albums, they would be higher with a different ranking) The Fame = 76 The Fame Monster = 85 Born This Way = 90 ARTPOP = 81 Cheek to Cheek = 69 Joanne = 83 Switch TFM and BTW, AP should be a 70, Cheek to Cheek at least an 85, and Joanne absolutely deserves at LEAST an 80. Critics are so ugh with Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 20,031 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 hours ago, lilmonster93 said: Umm instead of quoting me, you could have posted your own scores. Joanne might be more polished but ARTPOP has more interesting lyrics and more complex and richer production. Cheek to Cheek has very dull moments, and too many instrumentation breaks that last longer than they should. They vocals are the highlight of the album. I will not stand for this. Joanne hands down is Gaga's best produced album. The instrumentals are flawless in EVERY respect. As much as I love ARTPOP, the instrumentals are nowhere near Joanne's level. I don't feel it can stand without vocals, whereas everything on Joanne can. In addition, part of Joanne's cohesion is simplicity and it goes throughout the entire album for the better. There are so many little details that make each and every song much more complex, but on the surface, it's so simple and beautiful. The lyrics flow so nicely and there isn't anything cringy (looking at you Donatella). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyerased 2,886 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 The Fame - 75 Contrary to every Monster trashing TF, back in 2008 is actually very ahead of its time. It was a record where Gaga's rise to sperstardom is inevitable due to the songs being so insanely catchy. The only thint lacking from The Fame is lyrical consistency. The Fame Monster - 80 Duh Born This Way - 78 Those 0 reviews should be deleted ARTPOP - 65 Joanne - 74 I'd like Joanne to be higher. It's a good album but there's something lacking to push it to 80+. Like Melodrama, Beyonce, CTRL. When thinking of scores I try to be as objective as possible. Tbh, I still can't compare of any of her albums to albums like My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy or TBAP, which are compelling bodies of work. The closest would be TFM but it is too short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amidana 4,267 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 TF: 984356 TFM: 923545 BTW: 932666 ARTPOP: 93625 C2C: 91543 JOANNE: 97245 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1trus 4,341 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 The Fame = 84 (instant bop) The Fame Monster = 92 (pop masterpiece, I guess) Born This Way = 80 (cool) ARTPOP = 88 (refined, artsy bops) Cheek to Cheek = 75 (classic) Joanne = 90 (most diverse and artistic) ι'м ρυℓℓιηg үσυя sтяιηgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdino 31,997 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 The Fame = 71 to 72 The Fame Monster = 78 to 74 Born This Way = 71 to 89 ARTPOP = 61 to 76 Cheek to Cheek = 64 to 68 Joanne = 67 to 81 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochestrMonstr 3,229 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 They're all so close. I can understand the ratings for each one. I would add five points to BTW and ten to Joanne's scores though, and possibly take a couple points away from The Fame because of the amount of filler it has (Although there are plenty of good songs on there too). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan 0 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The Fame = 71 is good The Fame Monster = 83 Born This Way = 84 ARTPOP = 75 Joanne = 67 #sns Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Joanne and The Fame Monster should definitely be higher. BTW & AP have the right scores IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaskar 3,962 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I can't with y'all giving ARTPOP 75+ ARTPOP is a cute album, but it doesn't deserve more than 70 at all, and not more than Joanna at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drin Lon 7,875 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Imo anyone who thinks BTW objectively deserves a higher score than TFM is delusional TFM is the reason EDM/dance/synth music is/was popular this decade and has no fillers. Imo The Fame: 74 The Fame Monster: 88 Born This Way: 80 ARTPOP: 72 Joanne: 74 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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