why is beyonce the queen

[Thomas P 18,479]

That's like asking why is the sky blue.  It just is. 

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,158]

Because she's using her private life and her legs to stay relevant

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

1 hour ago, Ziggy said:

Easy (to explain). First and foremost, it wouldn't work if she wasn't one of the single greatest vocalists and performers of this generation. Hands down, she's one of the best. After that, she's also stunningly beautiful. I'd say those are the most important elements to her success.

 

what Beyoncé did was after 4 "underperformed" (not really), her management team shifted from marketing her album by album, essentially from marketing her based on her work to marketing *her*. They aren't marketing albums or concerts anymore, they're marketing Beyoncé. That's a stark shift from the way it's done for most businesses but is so successful because of the way the music industry is right now. While everyone is trying to find a way to profit off of music, Beyoncé's label stopped trying and profited off of her as an entity. The visual albums really helped with this because then the music became secondary or just another component. It went from being the forefront of marketing efforts to just being another part of it, a soundtrack in a lot of ways. Why hasn't she had a number 1 in years? Because they probably don't give a flying **** about it tbh

 

What they're selling now is Beyoncé, her glamorous lifestyle, her beauty, etc. From BEYONCÉ to Lemonade they have a **** ton of visuals to mine from for products and merchandise and imagery to pull from for performances. And since there's so much of it, like I said, the music is really not that important anymore because it's shifted to being about *her*. I mean, they've banked off of her pregnancy which would have been big regardless but after the salacious Lemonade era of infidelity and imperfection, we see the perfect family starting again. I'll bet you that Bey and Jay had been wanting more kids and took advantage of this opportunity to make her pregnancy into one even bigger than Princess Charlotte's.

 

Sorry for digressing a bit. The important thing is the shift of marketing for her. That, and that the product their pushing is something everyone wants. Beyoncé is incredibly talented, fit, beautiful, "ethnic" but familiar, the music is great, the visuals are great. What takes it over the top is that it's all about her so what they're doing is creating this fervent obsession with her as opposed to the music or visuals. It's more lucrative to market this way because very few artists have the basic requirements to do it. The Kardashians try and are very successful, but at the end of the day, they don't hold a candle to Beyoncé because she delivers *everything*.

 

I honestly think Gaga could do this if she had wanted to, but TFM would have been the era to do it with because the music was the best (not my opinion, I'm saying look at the reception), it was a short album, people still were intrigued by her, and she was at her visual prime. She still could pull it off, but I don't think she wants to because of how much attention it puts on her. We know she's super private.

This this this.

If she didnt have the talent to back it up, it wouldn't work. It doesn't hurt that people think shes one of the most beautiful women in the world too  

On top of this, the music is honestly good. Beyonce and Lemonade are light-years beyond any of her past releases in terms of scope though. I also think you made a great point about her "ethnic" but familiar vibe. Beyonce tows the line of being "ratchet" and classy. She is certainly "black" in the cultural sense, but doesn't openly display it, and shes not super dark skin wise, so she's marketable to white audiences. I will say though that with Beyonce and especially Lemonade, she's taking risks. Her music and visuals and message are more pointed to social justice, and she's more openly "black" in her appearance, her vocal delivery, etc.. She's gotten big enough that she can risk it. I mean, she performed what is basically a feeling-myself kind of black women anthem (Formation) at the Super Bowl wearing attire akin to the Black Panthers and people interpreted the video as being anti-cop.  It's a welcome change, and I'm sure she cares about things like institutional racism and feminism, but because she's so private, we'll never know just how honest it all is, which is frustrating. How much of it is calculated and tapping into or profiting off of social justice movements and how much of it is her wanting to give back to her communities  

Sorry for that mini rant, it was more of me posing an open ended question to the world  

[Drin Lon 7,875]

55 minutes ago, Dirtyicecreamz said:

Done and done! AND it's well deserved. She's done no wrong. She appeals to everyone. So many parents ban their children from watching Gaga or Riri but neverrrr Beyonce. She's f*cking timeless! 

I'm uncomfortable 

[Guest]

Unpopular opinion but she had better songs with Destiny's Child than when she went solo. Beyonce's solo career has a few hits, I think one of her best song is drunk in love, but there's nothing amazingly astounding for her to be the diva/queen. I think she's the queen of marketing. Step one : when you don't do interviews 24/7, you don't talk too much, it creates an aura around you, you seem much more haut de gamme, it creates a feeling that Beyoncé is not like other artists she's part of the elite, Michael Jackson, Elvis, James Brown, Bob Marley, all the biggest entertainers of all time, they didn't do interviews with just anybody.  So I think her marketing team understood that, and by acting like an icon, people unconsciously think "hum she must be something else, she must be the one". She's not going to do the carpool karaoke with James Corden, would a legend do that? Could you picture John Lennon if he was alive, doing that? No. Look at how she presents herself, the silhouette of an "icon", been used typically with MJ who became an icon, an image, with the hat, the glove, the white socks.

This is also reminescent of the Elvis 'icon/image/silhouette'. 

Step two: look like a marvel./Dc comics superhero when you appear on stage. It creates again that wow effect. Stand there and let people cheer for you.

Just like MJ let people cheer for him for 5 minutes straight (around that).

Step three: Do the buzz create the surprise, make people talk about you and you only by dropping an album out of the blue. Again don't do anything like the others. 

The more she lets people want more of her, the more it seems like she's a queen, inhuman, a hero.

It's all part of a packaging, she let the fans do the work for her now, they praise her, and make people feel really guilty for not liking Bey, so much so that even artists pretend (let's be real there has to be an amount of celebs who pretend) that they're the biggest fans ever! That they're obsessed! What personally surprised me was when Adele won that award for best album, and in her speech said "When is Bey finally going to win?", it felt to me like Adele was scared of people on social media insulting her and bashing her for winning against Bey. 

In what world would you do this? You would for Whitney Houston, MJ, somebody major. And since Bey created that image of being somebody important, + her fans praising her, there's this kind of filter where she created a consensus, that Beyonce is queen, Beyonce is life, "Beyonce is Beyoncé duh, why would you ask if she's a queen she just is", yes because we've been told over and over again that she is but...

If you lowkey just listen to all her albums without the brainwashed image she created, it's mediocre, not bad but not astounding. Just my view on it

[Ziggy 11,755]

1 hour ago, CrazyMonster said:

But Beyoncé still manages to stay private though.

True! I just mean in terms of using her relationship and family as part of her brand. Gaga would never in a million years do that. Meanwhile Beyoncé has extended her aura of wealth and glamour to Blue and Jay. Jay is a mega success so it isn't that hard, but Blue is not really a "person" to the media or fans so much as an image or an icon. She shares her life, but not in a very genuine manner, more in an iconographic sense. We don't know anything about how their family actually functions because of how private she is, as you pointed out. What we know is the carefully managed image of the perfect family crafted and released by her and her team. If she did have the twins the other day, there's a reason we don't know yet. They'll make an announcement when they are ready and have the perfect post ready to crash the Internet just like the announcement did. Truthfully, her biggest asset is her ability to control the conversation around her. People talk about what she wants them to say.

 

Gaga, by comparison, is a little sloppy. We see glimpses into her life, she talks about her family all the time, we saw pics of her and Taylor being cute and sweet and all that. You think we'd see a picture of Beyoncé on a beach in Mexico or meeting an ex at a friend's wedding nowadays? Not a chance in hell. So when I mean Gaga is more private, I mean in the sense that she doesn't bring people willingly into her life the same way Beyoncé does. It just kind of happens. Beyoncé by comparison is actually probably more private in terms of actual substance, but *always* posts photos of her family that she's very carefully shot and selected and edited. Gaga just doesn't care to be so hyper in control like Bey is and that's chill, Gaga is definitely more chill than Bey, but it's one reason her mystique has worn off a bit with audiences where Bey managed to somehow reverse the effect and build up a mystique again.

 

So, since what I'm saying sounds contradictory, Beyoncé is actually more private than Gaga, but in a social media sense, Gaga is more. Very rarely does Gaga post something about her family, much less a photo of them unless it's an old one. Bey perfectly stages vacation photos, jet-setting photos, around the house ones, nature ones, mother ones, etc. She shares images of her family a lot, but they're just that, images. Gaga doesn't want to make her family into an image to monetize, me thinks so that's what I mean by privacy.

[Ziggy 11,755]

1 hour ago, Dirtyicecreamz said:

Done and done! AND it's well deserved. She's done no wrong. She appeals to everyone. So many parents ban their children from watching Gaga or Riri but neverrrr Beyonce. She's f*cking timeless! 

Totally! Beyoncé would never use blood outrightly in a performance as Gaga has. Maybe she has, but for Gaga it's become a bit of a signature thing lol I could see where some starch-shirt parents would be aghast at her work vs. Bey's

[The Child 18,997]

2 hours ago, kyanewest said:

Step two: look like a marvel./Dc comics superhero when you appear on stage. It creates again that wow effect. Stand there and let people cheer for you.

Just like MJ let people cheer for him for 5 minutes straight (around that).

 

 

I saw her formation tour in Paris last year and that totally works.

She came up on stage like she was an angel coming right from heaven and she stood there giving us that fierce look that's she known for and we all automatically screamed.

(PS: you're also right about the fact that she had better songs with DC)

[FentyGa 14,340]

Sure, her voice is pretty good, but all of her music since 2013 is terrible except for 'Hold Up' and 'Pretty Hurts'

[FentyGa 14,340]

3 hours ago, kyanewest said:

Unpopular opinion but she had better songs with Destiny's Child than when she went solo.

This. Thank you.

[Dirtyicecreamz 1,716]

3 hours ago, Drin Lon said:

I'm uncomfortable 

lol did you not see the end of paparazzi at the vmas? we were like 12 and rihanna was already in her bad girl era while Beyonce was serving bops for the kids 

[Smother Em Eh 7,095]

I don't get it. I think Beyoncé is indeed overrated! I think the Queen is Gaga to be honest, I mean come on let's be real. 

Gaga

•Gaga has marketed  herself very well 

•She knows how to work the business

•She is a hell of a performer, with some of her stuff being controversial (like VMA 2009 Paparazzi performance) 

•She is super creative

•She pushes boundaries 

•She is constently evolving,

• She is one of the most, if not the most interesting artist we have today. 

-Gaga is a far more interesting and superior artist

Creativity

I personally don't find Beyonce to be very creative or really push that many boundaries, that's what Gaga is known for. Gaga is also shock art too!

Performances/ Concerts

There's no doubt that Beyonce is an incredible performer. She has awesome stage presence, but Gaga does too! Gaga not only dances and sings with 10 inch heels, but she also has the theatrics too! Oh and who could forgot the outrageous outfits to top it off? Her performances and concerts have everything, really! Oh and does Beyonce open up fan letters in the middle of her concerts, and reads them out loud? 

The Voice

I find Beyonces voice to be very overrated. Yeah, sure she is a "star" singer, but I find her voice to be really boring. I much prefer Gaga's voice! Gaga has many different sounds she can make with her voice and she is far more versatile. And for me she has a "better" tone. 

Music

Beyonce has some awesome hits, but I find the majority of her music to be just boring! The songs, "Crazy in Love", "Single Ladies", and "Drunk in Love" are her bomb hits (DIL is my fav though). But the majority of her music is just eehhh for me. Gaga's Music is pretty interesting, because it grabs your attention and keeps you intuned! 

 

Both Bey and Gaga are great artists. The industry sure wouldn't be the same without them, but I prefer Gaga hands down! The bottom line is that Beyonce is overrated and Gaga is indeed very underrated! 

[bujibu 462]

As someone who used to hate her music and now a huge fan, her work speaks for itself. She puts on massive shows, puts in the time and effort with every rehearsal, may be considered bossy but she's committed to her vision and what she wants while also having a tight team of experienced professionals.

She's also fairly lowkey in the public eye; the paparazzi find her, she never seeks it out. She interacts with fans but is lowkey about it. Same with charities and other things. I think she's mastered her image and she puts out amazing music. R&B has dipped over the years but she's helping keep it alive which separates her from everyone else.

She has presence, beauty and just...everything. Talent and hard work wins.

[KyliesChild 16,907]

4 hours ago, kevindjibouti said:

Because she's using her private life and her legs to stay relevant

What kind of flawed logic is this? If she were to use her private life to be the queen not only would it deteriorate her image in one way or another but most people wouldn't pay attention to her work. She's obviously put so much effort into her craft and has spent her entire life perfecting it so instead of applauding her work ethic apparently her body is more important than her immaculate vocals, elaborate stage design, incredible vocal technique, critically-acclaimed music and the videos affiliated with them, her capability to perform well each time she hits the stage with such eloquence that is what makes her so praised, and Beyoncé's influential career. Would you say that about Prince who has used sex appeal to garner attention by the general public? 

 

[KyliesChild 16,907]

54 minutes ago, maxblac said:

Sure, her voice is pretty good, but all of her music since 2013 is terrible except for 'Hold Up' and 'Pretty Hurts'

That's weird considering that those songs are the worst from Lemonade and self-titled. If all she had was a good voice and music, she wouldn't be so idolized.