Pop 4,541 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I blame the Cecebons for this mess. Somebody else was obviously supposed to be A but Marlene read their stupid theories and decided to run with it.#BlameCecebons The Taylor Brigade: KNOCKOUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesium 6,022 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I blame the Cecebons for this mess. Somebody else was obviously supposed to be A but Marlene read their stupid theories and decided to run with it. #BlameCecebons Nnn don't blame people who thought CeCe was A just because your Wren theory never came true. Whilst I admit there are a lot of plot holes, as I said earlier there would have been plot holes no matter who was 'A'. CeCe has been planned since season three. A lot of people are calling bullsh*t on Marlene's claims about this but I honestly believe her. My proof? Mainly this episode of Pretty Dirty Secrets: CeCe - "I had my reasons [for breaking up with Jason]". Her reasons were that she believed she had just killed her sister and she was going to be in Radley for a long time because she violated her privileges. She had to break up with Jason so that her cover wasn't blown, and also possibly because of the guilt she felt about hurting Alison. Marlene did not ready some CeCe theories and suddenly change her mind She may be a sloppy writer but I honestly believe she had this planned. If the "mess" you're referring to is the plot holes regarding Marion's death, CeCe being the prom queen at Rosewood High despite the fact she never went and the flashback in 410 then I agree. You'd think they'd have cemented the whole thing before going ahead with it. Plus the entire episode was a mess in my opinion because it felt so rushed. They could have gradually given us this information over the past 3 months but it was all piled into one episode like a mess is piled into a wardrobe and then last night the hinges gave way and everything burst out. Everything went everywhere and we didn't find certain things (answers) because they were overlooked. They should have stretched it out over two episodes OR at least a double length episode. The Sara reveal was bull too. Marlene better stay in her house for a good couple of weeks before even daring to step foot outside because there's about 30 "Wren is A" stans waiting outside for her, her wife and her annoying talentless kids (who can't act). Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if she asked her wife to clock ha and bury her in their backyard to save her from the embarrassment of writing such a sloppy conclusion riddled with plot holes. I imagine the sight of her twitter mentions is enough to make anyone look at a box of pills and vodka. Say what you like, CeCe was planned and it's just the fact that the plot was dragged out for so long that allowed plot holes to form. Put your white tennis shoes on and follow me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann 354 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 So wait if Cece is A.. and there is only one A and it's Cece , so what the hell in the end of the episode It was like "5 years later" i mean wtf is that? and what the hell happened to their moms cuz Cece locked them away in episode 9 The whole episode was A MESS! IDK! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 15,354 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 The "A" reveal on "Pretty Little Liars" is totally a "Passions" storyline from 2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop 4,541 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 So wait if Cece is A.. and there is only one A and it's Cece , so what the hell in the end of the episode It was like "5 years later" i mean wtf is that? and what the hell happened to their moms cuz Cece locked them away in episode 9 The whole episode was A MESS! IDK! Cece is only Big A. The same person who killed Mrs DiLaurentis and send Ali the "I Will bury you like I watched your mother being buried" text is obviously Uber A. The Taylor Brigade: KNOCKOUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop 4,541 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 [extremely long rant] I wasn't being serious. But I disagree with you. I think she was always a part of the mystery, maybe even Ali's attempted killed. But she wasn't Charles or A. That was something that was decided late into Season 5 and it shows. The Taylor Brigade: KNOCKOUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete 258 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 This was the worst episode in the entire series. I could live with CeCe being "A" but they way it was presented was so sloppy. First off, making the psychotic, mentally unstable VILLIAN of your show a transgender woman was the WORST IDEA. EVER. If I were that community I would be raising all sorts of hell on Marlene. So all transgender people are mentally ill and terrible people? Nice message Mar. Having a transgender character should be a positive thing and she completely ruined it. And the incest thing? That was probably the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. Secondly, there were WAY too many plot holes. I mean cmon now, people have waited three entire seasons to see and hear the backstory of "A", only to receive a big block of Swiss Cheese. Too. Many. Holes. Everything from Wilden not being old enough to be cop, let alone cover up Marion's death, to Bethany being 12 when she pushes Marion off the roof, to CeCe being Prom Queen in the yearbook, to the Cape May trip never being a family trip (Ali held her breath until her mom agreed to let her and the PLLS go alone). There's actually more I could go into but I'm lazy at the moment. Lastly, Shower Harvey's stank ass being the ONLY helper and RedCoat/BlackWidow. How did Ceciel meet this b---h anyway? Thank God Emily punched her ass and got vengence for her mothers water ill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,979 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 This was the worst episode in the entire series. I could live with CeCe being "A" but they way it was presented was so sloppy. First off, making the psychotic, mentally unstable VILLIAN of your show a transgender woman was the WORST IDEA. EVER. If I were that community I would be raising all sorts of hell on Marlene. So all transgender people are mentally ill and terrible people? Nice message Mar. Having a transgender character should be a positive thing and she completely ruined it. And the incest thing? That was probably the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. Secondly, there were WAY too many plot holes. I mean cmon now, people have waited three entire seasons to see and hear the backstory of "A", only to receive a big block of Swiss Cheese. Too. Many. Holes. Everything from Wilden not being old enough to be cop, let alone cover up Marion's death, to Bethany being 12 when she pushes Marion off the roof, to CeCe being Prom Queen in the yearbook, to the Cape May trip never being a family trip (Ali held her breath until her mom agreed to let her and the PLLS go alone). There's actually more I could go into but I'm lazy at the moment. Lastly, Shower Harvey's stank ass being the ONLY helper and RedCoat/BlackWidow. How did Ceciel meet this b---h anyway? Thank God Emily punched her ass and got vengence for her mothers water ill. LOL your ending made my day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,979 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I will come back and edit this post and make it a really long long long one so be warned. I have been a fan since day watched the first episode since it aired and kept watching weekly. I will dissect this whole mess tell you the cons and the pros, what i love, what i hated and most importantly was it all worth it in the end ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy232000 11,807 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I will come back and edit this post and make it a really long long long one so be warned. I have been a fan since day watched the first episode since it aired and kept watching weekly. I will dissect this whole mess tell you the cons and the pros, what i love, what i hated and most importantly was it all worth it in the end ?it will NEVER be worth it in the end...ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Adrenaline 1,518 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The thing is, whoever they made 'A' (whether it have been Wren, Jenna, Melissa etc) people would have been disappointed. They dragged out and hyped everything so much that they kind of ruined it themselves. After watching the episode again I feel satisfied (although the whole Marion thing is ridiculous and just shows how sloppy the writing is). I honestly believe that they had this planned for absolutely ages. There's no way to satisfy everyone and I see loads of people are disappointed. It was almost inevitable. see I have nothing against Cece being A or anyone of those u mentioned being A ... my problem is how poorly executed the episode was, like if u think of the most stupid not believable way to explain everything - that's how the finale felt. From all the plotholes to all the unanswered question that was. I feel pity for me that I have spent so much time in this show to get a finale like that ... I literally feel rubbed It's much more fun to have hizophrenia... u never get lonely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecturr 1,926 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 This was the worst episode in the entire series. I could live with CeCe being "A" but they way it was presented was so sloppy. First off, making the psychotic, mentally unstable VILLIAN of your show a transgender woman was the WORST IDEA. EVER. If I were that community I would be raising all sorts of hell on Marlene. So all transgender people are mentally ill and terrible people? Nice message Mar. Having a transgender character should be a positive thing and she completely ruined it. And the incest thing? That was probably the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. Secondly, there were WAY too many plot holes. I mean cmon now, people have waited three entire seasons to see and hear the backstory of "A", only to receive a big block of Swiss Cheese. Too. Many. Holes. Everything from Wilden not being old enough to be cop, let alone cover up Marion's death, to Bethany being 12 when she pushes Marion off the roof, to CeCe being Prom Queen in the yearbook, to the Cape May trip never being a family trip (Ali held her breath until her mom agreed to let her and the PLLS go alone). There's actually more I could go into but I'm lazy at the moment. Lastly, Shower Harvey's stank ass being the ONLY helper and RedCoat/BlackWidow. How did Ceciel meet this b---h anyway? Thank God Emily punched her ass and got vengence for her mothers water ill. i hope you know the cape may trip was before the time Ali held her breath. I can't remember exactly where but Marlene explained that those two events occurred on different times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Adrenaline 1,518 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 This was the worst episode in the entire series. I could live with CeCe being "A" but they way it was presented was so sloppy. First off, making the psychotic, mentally unstable VILLIAN of your show a transgender woman was the WORST IDEA. EVER. If I were that community I would be raising all sorts of hell on Marlene. So all transgender people are mentally ill and terrible people? Nice message Mar. Having a transgender character should be a positive thing and she completely ruined it. And the incest thing? That was probably the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. Secondly, there were WAY too many plot holes. I mean cmon now, people have waited three entire seasons to see and hear the backstory of "A", only to receive a big block of Swiss Cheese. Too. Many. Holes. Everything from Wilden not being old enough to be cop, let alone cover up Marion's death, to Bethany being 12 when she pushes Marion off the roof, to CeCe being Prom Queen in the yearbook, to the Cape May trip never being a family trip (Ali held her breath until her mom agreed to let her and the PLLS go alone). There's actually more I could go into but I'm lazy at the moment. Lastly, Shower Harvey's stank ass being the ONLY helper and RedCoat/BlackWidow. How did Ceciel meet this b---h anyway? Thank God Emily punched her ass and got vengence for her mothers water ill. sums up exactly how I feel ... preach sis preach It's much more fun to have hizophrenia... u never get lonely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007 5,291 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Wasn't there an episode where Ali was being choked to death by 'A' until Emily came in & saved her ass? So Cece planned to kill her sister? What's up with the intense hate towards the liars? She had them almost killed a lot of times, hurt them (physically and mentally), ruined their reputation, dragged them into murder cases, got their families involved with her ****ed up 'games', made their lives a living hell, what's all that for? Cece didn't really explain. And I can't at the fact that A-team are formed of 2 people I'm sure that I've seen a guy in that black hoody. so only 2 people were stalking, planning, attacking, being (literally) everywhere, knew everything about everything and doing all of the above at once, while slaying the stock market? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetHigh 52,683 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The thing is, whoever they made 'A' (whether it have been Wren, Jenna, Melissa etc) people would have been disappointed. They dragged out and hyped everything so much that they kind of ruined it themselves. After watching the episode again I feel satisfied (although the whole Marion thing is ridiculous and just shows how sloppy the writing is). I honestly believe that they had this planned for absolutely ages. There's no way to satisfy everyone and I see loads of people are disappointed. It was almost inevitable. I agree. I watched the episode again and it was not bad. The "Cece being A" plot line is not bad at all, but the way the writers explained it was extremely bad. The plot holes just prove that. Now, I can forget that and move on, but Sara Harvey being Red Coat and Black Veil is still bugging me a lot. We've been wondering who RC is since season 3 and BV since season 4. The least they could have done is at least picked a character that wasn't introduced 9 episodes before the finale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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