United calls police on gay dad

[PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570]

Just now, JustLikeHoney said:

Did you not read the story? The whole crew was in agreement.

Yes I read the story. I'm not commenting on something like this until I know the story or the gravity of the situation. 

The police, as the story stated, found nothing to be alarmed over. It sounds like a group of people saw one incident that could or could not be taken as molestation agreed and ran with it. 

Again, my issue is with your delivery. It seems, and this Is something we can discuss in private if you care to, that you've gone through something similar therefore you're so passionate about it, but don't let your passions completely shoot down any other valid opposing arguments. 

This has already been reported because I feel you're taking this way left, so I just hope mods can come deviate as well as they hand out WPs cuz this is ridiculous and as much as I want to contribute I cannot afford any more wps

[littlepotter 76,610]

10 minutes ago, uo111 said:

You are absolutely right!

Next time I see a child I'm gonna call protective services cause who knows if it's really their kid.

I might be a hero! It's a 0.000000000000001% chance, but you can never be too careful!

I appreciate the sarcasm but I don't think that's a topic to be joked about

[uo111 5,282]

Just now, littlepotter said:

I appreciate the sarcasm but I don't think that's a topic to be joked about

If my post is a joke then so is yours, considering it's exacty what you suggested.

[River 127,336]

On 27.5.2017 at 5:06 PM, littlepotter said:

This has nothing to do with homophobia, it's about a woman being worried about a child's safety and just making sure everything was right. I don't understand your reasoning at all.

So there's no Islamophobia during flights and all the people that were worried about terror attack in the flights because someone spoke in Arabic are correct to be worried and it's correct to check the Arabic person?

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

22 minutes ago, PMKKARDASHiAN said:

Yes I read the story. I'm not commenting on something like this until I know the story or the gravity of the situation. 

The police, as the story stated, found nothing to be alarmed over. It sounds like a group of people saw one incident that could or could not be taken as molestation agreed and ran with it. 

Again, my issue is with your delivery. It seems, and this Is something we can discuss in private if you care to, that you've gone through something similar therefore you're so passionate about it, but don't let your passions completely shoot down any other valid opposing arguments. 

This has already been reported because I feel you're taking this way left, so I just hope mods can come deviate as well as they hand out WPs cuz this is ridiculous and as much as I want to contribute I cannot afford any more wps

Excuse me but the valid arguements that you are saying have in fact been very hostile towards me and full of unnecessary sarcasm. If my replies to those comments were blunt than so be it. I called one opinion stupid where they tried to marry holding hands with holding a child's crotch as the same thing. Sorry to have offended you but my opinion stays the same. Of course you would report someone with a different opinion than yours contributing to the conversation. Obviously with the amount of warning points you have, you may not know how to have a debate without getting riled up.

[littlepotter 76,610]

Just now, River said:

So there's no Islamophobia during flights and all the people that were worried about terror attack in the flights because someone spoke in Arabic are correct to be worried and it's correct to check the Arabic person?

How is that remotely similar  I literally give up. 

[PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570]

4 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

Excuse me but the valid arguements that you are saying have in fact been very hostile towards me and full of unnecessary sarcasm. If my replies to those comments were blunt than so be it. I called one option stupid where they tried to marry holding hand with holding a child's crotch as the same thing. Sorry to have offended you but my opinion stays the same. Of course you would report someone with a different opinion than yours contributing to the conversation. Obviously with the amount of warning points you have you may not know how to have a debate without getting riled up.

Yes but I never attacked you, therefore don't get hostile with me. I was never once rude unless you consider me calling this situation ridiculous rude? 

Of course I would report someone?! Are you serious?! You're the second person I have ever reported because I cannot afford the wps so I'm covering my own ass sorry if you cant understand that! 

Uh, my wps were piled up because I spoke against joanne and other users who attacked me. I'm very versed in having conversations but not when certain members lash out because they have it set in their mind how things should play out. How dare you attack me for being blunt and honest. 

I was once upon a time appalled at your delivery now I'm just appalled by you. 

[uo111 5,282]

31 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

Excuse me for placing more importance to the life of a child than people mistaking me for homophobic. Are you aware that most cases of molestation are from people the child knows or family members. Maybe if people would report concerns more often instead of trying to rationalize what they see, more children would be rescued. It doesn't matter if you are reporting someone who is man, woman gay, straight, bi, or trans. Let the authorities sort out guilt afterwards.

Preach! And the place where molestation happens the most is in public so it makes sense to think he was molesting his child on an airplane in full view of everyone around.

[River 127,336]

Just now, littlepotter said:

How is that remotely similar  I literally give up. 

It is, let me explain you why.

Speaking Arabic is a daily, normal action of an Arabic person.

Same as holding your kid while the kid sleeps for gay parents.

One thing is similar for both: they are minorities, some idiotic people hates them and scared of their existence.

So when someone is reporting you to the authorities because you did a normal, daily action, while you know that you are a minority, it's prejudice and it's a phobia.

From what you said, the employees of United have the right to report an Arabic speaking person, same as checking a gay parent that holding their kid, because United can report about anything that looks suspicious and incorrect to them and it's not a prejudice or phobia.

 

[PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570]

3 minutes ago, uo111 said:

Preach! And the place where molestation happens the most is in public so it makes sense to think he was molesting his child on an airplane in full view of everyone around.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. 

If it is 

If it's not 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

6 minutes ago, River said:

So there's no Islamophobia during flights and all the people that were worried about terror attack in the flights because someone spoke in Arabic are correct to be worried and it's correct to check the Arabic person?

Speaking in Arabic is not inappropriate behavior. Having your hand in a child's crotch can be mistaken for inappropriate behavior. In this case it was mistaken for inappropriate and reported. 

[River 127,336]

Just now, JustLikeHoney said:

Speaking in Arabic is not inappropriate behavior. Having your hand in a child's crotch can be mistaken for inappropriate behavior. In this case it was mistaken for inappropriate and reported. 

in 2017 speaking Arabic can be inappropriate for certain people, like dear Mr. President.

It was reported only because they are 2 guys.. no one would report a mother..

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

21 minutes ago, uo111 said:

Preach! And the place where molestation happens the most is in public so it makes sense to think he was molesting his child on an airplane in full view of everyone around.

It doesn't say where he was seated. When you are seated by a window you are not in plane view of everyone. Also joking about or sarcasm about a family member publicly molesting a child might actually hurt the feelings of people who have gone through it. The audacity of people to make light of this situation is astounding. You really think a real predator cares if they do it in public or not.  In this case the father was not a predator, but what if he had been one. 

[uo111 5,282]

3 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

It doesn't say where he was seated. When you are seated by a window you are not in plane view of everyone. Also joking about a family member publicly molesting a child might actually hurt the feelings of people who have gone through it. The audacity of people to make light of this situation is astounding. You really think a real predator cares if they do it in public or not.  In this case the father was not a predator, but what if he had been one. 

If he was actually doing it in public, and they did nothing to stop it, that would be a big problem.

But he wasn't doing anything, and they called social services on him because they are prejudiced. 

You know what hurts peoples feelings? Saying that it's okay to call social services on gay fathers for holding their kids.

No one is making light of molestation, that's a weak arguement to cling too. Several people are making light of prejudice though. "Just let the authorities handle it," isn't a good answer when they can lose out on the right to adopt because of attitudes like yours. "Better safe than sorry" turns into "gays need not apply."

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

1 minute ago, uo111 said:

If he was actually doing it in public, and they did nothing to stop it, that would be a big problem.

But he wasn't doing anything, and they called social services on him because they are prejudiced. 

You know what hurts peoples feelings? Saying that it's okay to call social services on gay fathers for holding their kids.

No one is making light of molestation, that's a weak arguement to cling too. Several people are making light of prejudice though. "Just let the authorities handle it," isn't a good answer when they can lose out on the right to adopt because of attitudes like yours. "Better safe than sorry" turns into "gays need not apply."

What? You can't cause an altercation with a parent on a flight. The safety of everyone on board would be compromised. What did you want them to do rip the child from his hands mid flight. They handled the situation as best they could, without causing a scene or putting everyone in danger. The situation isn't black and white. There is always the chance that it would be wrong. Also I'm not saying it's OK to call SS on gay fathers for holding their kids. I'm saying the way this father was holding his kid could have been mistaken for inappropriate. And any father straight or gay should have been reported to SS. 

Stop trying to put words in my mouth.