Fernster7 7,976 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 My only concern with this is the cruel way these animals are treated. I can't criticize them because I love meat. Monsters never die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,612 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 25 minutes ago, Giorgio said: Fine, if you enjoy being ignorant, I'm 'Asian' (you know, that continent that has like 50 countries and isn't limited to China and Japan), and I've never eaten any dish which incorporates "shit". Or any of those animals you mentioned. Honestly, go read a book. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman 6,251 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 10 hours ago, Gaga Monster said: If you eat meat, have leather, wear fur, and wear skin based shoes I think it is extremely hypocritical to oppose this when you continue to buy from an industry that rapes, tortures, destroys the environment, and kills animals for you to consume. You can't oppose one and support the other, it is hypocritical. Dogs and cats are domesticated animals that only exist as there are today because their ability to form bonds with humans. Dogs are born to love humans - they naturally can read human body language and emotion. So I wouldn't call it hypocritical to value dogs over other animals, there's a reason why they have earned the title "Man's Best Friend". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia 6,093 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 9 hours ago, MetalliGa said: Which is why cutting off available resources for such a massive group of people is a bad idea just because the animals are "hurting" The first world countries may have plentiful of resources to sustain their own people endlessly but trying to feel the pain of the more unfortunate ones by allowing yourselves to relate to their current status won't do any good. It's better to provide than to suspend their only source for survival. Survival is more important considering millions are starving. These dogs may be bullied by this festival but Gaga has not said anything of such matter. What do you think these animals have to eat and drink? They are dwindling our resources that could actually feed millions around the world. The amount of water and grain a cow has to eat just to produce one pound of beef is ridiculous, and not to mention, that pound of beef is going towards the people who can afford it, not those who are starving. I know Gaga hasn't spoke out about it, but why does she even have to in order for you to recognize its wrong? FATWIFE, First Lady Of GGD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia 6,093 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 9 hours ago, River said: Because I like to eat meat and hate how the animals are treated, a simple calculation means that I want to change the way that the animals are brutally being killed. I want to eat meat that died naturally, without any murderous hand of the man. But if we go deeper in my life, I can't stop eating meat, even if I wanted to, so I need to eat the meat that we have now to stay alive.. Of course I'm taking it as personal, all the meat eaters are taking it personal because you make it personal.. it's really an easy computation.. And I read and watched and hit myself in the face too many times, I know everything, I'm not hiding behind a mask and thinking that the chicken breast is magically comes in a beautiful shape to my plate.. I'm against fur, leather, protesting against it, I'm protesting against the use of animals for religious purposes, volunteering since I'm a kid in animals shelter, I have 2 stray dogs that one of them was attacked by kids and they cut his back and let him bleed on the roads and I adopted him and now he's the happiest dog alive, I joined a group of vegans to released chicks from a few farms in my country, I did thinks, many things and still doing. So be it, I'm hypocrite.. You do not NEED to eat meat, whatever nutrients you need in meat, you can easily get elsewhere. There are many meat alternatives on the market, many ways to cook and flavour food to give you meaty textures or taste. Is your own cravings more important than suffering? Because at the end of the day, that's what it comes down to. FATWIFE, First Lady Of GGD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KleinGa 18,177 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 11 hours ago, Gaga Monster said: If you eat meat, have leather, wear fur, and wear skin based shoes I think it is extremely hypocritical to oppose this when you continue to buy from an industry that rapes, tortures, destroys the environment, and kills animals for you to consume. You can't oppose one and support the other, it is hypocritical. P.R.E.A.C.H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I've eaten dog meat and I enjoyed it just like I've had cow, chicken, duck, pig and pheasant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 58 minutes ago, Anastasia said: What do you think these animals have to eat and drink? They are dwindling our resources that could actually feed millions around the world. The amount of water and grain a cow has to eat just to produce one pound of beef is ridiculous, and not to mention, that pound of beef is going towards the people who can afford it, not those who are starving. I know Gaga hasn't spoke out about it, but why does she even have to in order for you to recognize its wrong? Again, you're looking at a point of view where *you* think these people are having trouble trying to feed themselves as if vegetation will be completely out of their reach when it's not. Meat may come the hardest as you say, and I agree, so to them it'd be considered a luxury. Idk if a lot of you could ever see it outside the westernized/first world view, but research your arguments carefully. I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I'd prefer people to be hypocritical and the festival gets stopped than just ignore it. I'd urge anyone who feels strongly against this to speak out and not let anyone dictate your morals/beliefs. It's either we do nothing and all the animals suffer or we get "hypocritical" and spare some. I'm not a meat eater either. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Luc said: I've eaten dog meat and I enjoyed it just like I've had cow, chicken, duck, pig and pheasant. Girl, how was it? Is it any different? Like how lamb is very chewy ... I cannot ever try it tho I'm scared I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Anastasia said: I know Gaga hasn't spoke out about it, but why does she even have to in order for you to recognize its wrong? But it's not wrong. preventing people to survive *is* wrong. It's a crime I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 2 hours ago, CautiousLurker said: Are you serious? Cuz this genuinely reads like a troll... And this is the second time in one day I ran into something you wrote that was remarkably stupid so... hmmmm, troll or not a troll, I'm oddly conflicted... I don't expect you to ever understand. Live in Africa or somewhere else for a change. Feel what it's like to live a life with no privileges. I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Earthling said: Cutting what resources? Meat from animals? Raising animals for slaughter uses up resources. Those animals need to be fed crops and given freshwater. The Water Footprint Network estimates that every kilogram of bovine meat requires 15,415 liters of water to produce. All the corn and grain going to fatten up livestock could be better distributed to help alleviate world hunger. I'm not demonizing people in poverty keeping their own cows or goats for milk and/or chickens for meat and eggs, for them it is a resource. But the large scale factory farmed meat and dairy industry is doing nothing to provide resources for people. Omg here we go again with this statistics im cackling. You truly can never see outside that perspective. You're only worried that these factories are using up too much resources in *your* land. You only see the industrial and modern side. Have you ever looked at other lives out there? I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,709 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 35 minutes ago, MetalliGa said: I don't expect you to ever understand. Live in Africa or somewhere else for a change. Feel what it's like to live a life with no privileges. Oh, so you're just an a**, thanks for clarifying ^^ It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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