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Is the original LG5 really what we think it is?


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21 minutes ago, Heterophobia said:

Cause RedOne said he worked on a ton of songs with Gags and said they were grammy worthy (not to say the ones on Joanne aren't). But seeing as RedOne specialises in pop it wouldn't of been anything like Joanne. 

Glad she took a different direction tbh. love Joanne with all my heart, but I would still like to hear it eventually 

He said he worked on a song that he thought was grammy worthy, could be angel down from what we know. Emotional ballad that was written about very relevant social issues. I'm not saying Angel Down was definitely that song, but it's not such an out of this world idea.

To OP's point though, from the studio pics we got of her and redone it seemed like she was writing with a guitar and piano from scratch, similar to how she created Joanne:

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Maybe she did some work with RedOne with this idea of having a more stripped down or organic sounding 'analog' album and later decided that she could better execute this vision with Mark Ronson.

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GreekGod

I would actually love to hear that AHS inpired dark themed beautiful songs like the ones in BTW, but that's just me missing RockGa. I am happy with Joanne. Perfect Illusion is my all time Gaga favorite song. Whatever she decides to do, I believe is the best for her and her artistry.

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25 minutes ago, GhettoFabulous said:

NRFqhg.gifWe know we just do and we'll hear them soon after the SB 

Sure about that? :awkney: Lol I'm just kidding. I don't necilcarily think she will release them but if she does that would be awesome :music:

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4 minutes ago, Bebe said:

He said he worked on a song that he thought was grammy worthy, could be angel down from what we know. Emotional ballad that was written about very relevant social issues. I'm not saying Angel Down was definitely that song, but it's not such an out of this world idea.

To OP's point though, from the studio pics we got of her and redone it seemed like she was writing with a guitar and piano from scratch, similar to how she created Joanne:

REDONE!1.png

gaga-redone-compressed.jpg

Maybe she did some work with RedOne with this idea of having a more stripped down or organic sounding 'analog' album and later decided that she could better execute this vision with Mark Ronson.

Angel Down was a demo that she made woth R1, not a song

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30 minutes ago, Bloody Matt said:

An "original LG5" never existed. There were just songs that didn't make the cut, something that happens with every album on earth. Monsters just like to dramatize everything with Gaga scrapping things. 

 

25 minutes ago, ARTPOPSlays said:

I agree with you on this. I don't think there was an original LG5, I just think we're all paranoid :laughga: 

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7 minutes ago, monketsharona said:

We actually know she worked with a huge bunch of producers in 2015 (RedOne, DJWS, Diane, Nile, Moroder, Elton and probably more) and all were scrapped once she went in studio with Mark and his friends in 2016. At teh very end of 2015, she posted a pic mixing tracks with RedOne and Diane confirmed she was involved in the album.

If it was just RedOne, I'd understand the "conspiracy" theory. But we have a handful of artists who explicitly said they were working with Gaga on the new album, and a number of them said statements cohesive with each other, and a number share genres they are known for (i.e., Warren and Elton for ballads, Moroder and Nile for Disco-EDM).

LG5 was scrapped for Joanne.

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2 minutes ago, Panchecco said:

I wonder what her original plan could have been... release the first single at the Grammys but still release the album at the end of the year? :huh:

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although I feel like the Intel performance was never intended to be an actual first single performance but just a tease of the vibe of LG5... without the actual release of a single after the Grammys...

 

yeah maybe..;.Anyway we actually know she had 8 mixed and mastered songs from RedOne sessions (and probably more with the others); So let's not pretend she wasn't working on something completely different...

Joanne's concept was born when she wrote with Mark, Hillary, BloodPop, John Misty, Beck and so on she only met after the first sessions with Mark on March 2016. She made Joanne in only 6 months actually. She definitely made another album from late 2014 to late 2015 (that was scrapped).

At least she has some material to release if she doesn't want or has time to return in studio in the coming months / years.

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A good indication that Joanne's concept wasn't even existing in 2015 when she was working with RedOne and the others, is the fact she wrote the song Joanne with Mark Ronson in 2016 during her first sessions together..

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RedOne  said ''The first single was one of the songs we made.It will be out in the first months of the year. But she canceled it.''

I think Album would Electro Pop and Rock  just like Born This Way ft AC DC  ... and she meets Mark , she worked with him just a few songs.... and  he's winnig the record of the year A few months later, they ended the relationship (Gaga and Taylor.) Gossip has been there since February.  this winning and this Broke up changes everything. 
she's always makes decisions with her feelings It does not make sense.

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43 minutes ago, ARTPOPSlays said:

Because I feel like it's not. :trollga:

We all talk about how the "original" LG5 (if there is one) was going to be this huge disco pop infusion with countless bops. But, how do we know that it wasn't going to be similar to what we have now. From the begining of 2015 when she started talking it about it, she said right then and there that the album was basically her as a cadaver, and that she was operating on her old self. So how do we actually know that it would've been what we all think it is? :oprah: 

By the way, I'm totally rooting for her to do a disco album! :music:

We all think the original LG5 is like TFM 2.0 but I feel we are wrong. Gaga started writting songs since the end of the artRave and had few studio sessions with RedOne. As we can see in the pictures, the only instruments that they use is a piano and a guitar.

A real 'insider' on Twitter said that RedOne songs were very acoustic and it was just like Angel Down (Work Tape), I mean, only her voice and the guitar.

I see many angry fans because she didn't release the real LG5... but what if the real Joanne is just an acoustic álbum and not full of bops?

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47 minutes ago, Bloody Matt said:

An "original LG5" never existed. There were just songs that didn't make the cut, something that happens with every album on earth. Monsters just like to dramatize everything with Gaga scrapping things. 

No, you're wrong. 

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8 minutes ago, JohnWayneBitch said:

I see many angry fans because she didn't release the real LG5... but what if the real Joanne is just an acoustic álbum and not full of bops?

RedOne, DJWS, Giorgio Moroder Nile Rodgers : all have dance music in common so no...

I think the orginal LG5 was more dance / rock / funk / disco influenced. And definitely darker than Joanne. Of course some ballads, Gaga is always doing ballads on all her albums. And RedOne definitely can produce this. DJWS too..

RedOne also produced pop rock (+ dance of course). Diane is writing a lot of pop rock too. Add the 70s / 80s disco vibes from legendary producers Nile Rodgers and Giorgio Morder and you have an idea of how LG5 sounded. And it would be nothing near Joanne sounds..

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23 minutes ago, Panchecco said:

I wonder what her original plan could have been... release the first single at the Grammys but still release the album at the end of the year? :huh:

Although I feel like the Intel performance was never intended to be an actual "first single performance" but just a tease of the vibe of LG5... without the actual release of a single after the Grammys... 

EDIT: in fact it wasn't... it was stated very early before Bowie's death that "Lady Gaga will not perform new material as part of the program, she promises to deliver an experience not to be forgotten" (http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160105006907/en/Intel-Brings-Amazing-Experiences-Life-Consumer-Electronics)

THIS.

She probably would have incorporated Intel into a performance of Til it happens to you. 

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Bloody Matt

Moroder never got to work with Gaga in the end.

Nile Rodgers worked with her for Chic's album, not LG5.

Diane Warren worked on two songs, probably helped just in the writing process.

All the 8 RedOne songs were in acoustic form (see: Angel Down's Work Tape).

At the end of 2015 she probably had 10 songs max in demo version. To me that's not an "album" that can be scrapped, it's part of the creative process leading an album that was released later and obviously didn't include every song that was written (I'm not even gonna say produced because I'm pretty confident most of the songs that didn't make the cut were just left in an early demo form).

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