The Surrealist 27,470 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I always think that suffering and pain are the only way to create great art. "However, I never claimed that art cannot be produced without suffering, only that art produced without suffering is not likely to be very good. Why? Because the central function of an artist is to convey an idea. That idea can be visceral or intellectual; it can be conveyed through a painting, a song, a poem, or a guy dancing around in a moose costume. The method doesn’t matter. Artists, both brilliant and hackneyed, create out of the same basic desire to communicate. But it’s we art lovers who invest our attention, our time, in their creations. Why should we invest in a work of art that was created without conflict, or struggle, or pain? Where is the challenge?" Source: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1605509 What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 97,986 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I don't think artists should "suffeeerrr!11!!", I just think they need to be true to their emotions to make genuine art. This emotion can be sadness but also happiness, lust, anger... If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 It's not like it's hard to suffer in the world, people make it very easy. It's just.... I don't like the wording of this. It reminds me a lot of when Little Monstrosities cheered and celebrated when Taylor & Gaga broke up because she makes "better bops when she's heartbroken." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 97,986 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Supersonic said: It's not like it's hard to suffer in the world, people make it very easy. It's just.... I don't like the wording of this. It reminds me a lot of when Little Monstrosities cheered and celebrated when Taylor & Gaga broke up because she makes "better bops when she's heartbroken." I wonder what they would do if she said "I want you all to end your relationships in order to understand my music and buy it" If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvanas 5,768 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 No, but great artists can make art of their suffering. "Who are we, if not slaves to this torment?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 yes, im suffering right now https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades 27,980 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Most artists tend to create masterpieces when they are even highly happy(ROL Madonna was pregnant) or when they are suffering /going through hard times like Gaga. Intense things bring the best out of people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, Supersonic said: celebrated when Taylor & Gaga broke up because she makes "better bops when she's heartbroken." wth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear 7,515 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Not at all. Art doesn't have to be born out of suffering, it can be born out of any emotion strong or weak. Hell, it doesn't even need emotion. There are plenty of pieces of art out there whose creation had nothing to do with emotions or feelings and they are still masterpieces. So while suffering can definitely be channeled by a great artist it isn't the defining factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 It depends on the artist, really. I think what is just genuinely needed is motivation. A need to do it. Artists are only artists as long as they are creating. Plus art is so subjective. What may be a commission to pay the bills may end up being seen as your magnum opus, while the thing you pour all of your emotion and time into is just seen as "meh". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 26 minutes ago, Sycamore said: wth I have like 2 pages of receipts from ATRL monstrosities, I don't wanna know what messyness ensued on GGD back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 For me speaking personally I feel like I only do pain creates a sense of urgency to make art when you're an artist. And the millions of feelings you can't explain, and feel the urge to put it out in some way creates something magical. But I don't think it necessarily mean in order to be great artistically you have to suffer. So i'd answer with a yes and no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, Supersonic said: I have like 2 pages of receipts from ATRL monstrosities, I don't wanna know what messyness ensued on GGD back then. "atrl" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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