Study Finds Veganism To Be The Most Sustainable Diet, Published By PLOS

[Anastasia 6,093]

2 minutes ago, AKB48 said:

but I read that you bodys needs to eat EVERYTHING, otherwise it will not get all the nutrients it needs, cause our body is designed to eat both meat and vegetables

I'm not sure what you mean, but I am currently in university studying dietetics and I can tell you that all major dietetic organizations agree that veganism can be just as healthy as non-veganism. 

 

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All the major dietetics and health organizations in the world agree that vegan and vegetarian diets are just as healthy as omnivorous diets. Here are links to what some of them have to say on the subject:

American Dietetic Association

It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.

Dietitians of Canada

A well planned vegan diet can meet all of these needs. It is safe and healthy for pregnant and breastfeeding women, babies, children, teens and seniors.

The British National Health Service

With good planning and an understanding of what makes up a healthy, balanced vegan diet, you can get all the nutrients your body needs.

The British Nutrition Foundation

A well-planned, balanced vegetarian or vegan diet can be nutritionally adequate ... Studies of UK vegetarian and vegan children have revealed that their growth and development are within the normal range.

The Dietitians Association of Australia

Vegan diets are a type of vegetarian diet, where only plant-based foods are eaten. They differ to other vegetarian diets in that no animal products are usually consumed or used. Despite these restrictions, with good planning it is still possible to obtain all the nutrients required for good health on a vegan diet.

The United States Department of Agriculture

Vegetarian diets (see context) can meet all the recommendations for nutrients. The key is to consume a variety of foods and the right amount of foods to meet your calorie needs. Follow the food group recommendations for your age, sex, and activity level to get the right amount of food and the variety of foods needed for nutrient adequacy. Nutrients that vegetarians may need to focus on include protein, iron, calcium, zinc, and vitamin B12.

The National Health and Medical Research Council

Alternatives to animal foods include nuts, seeds, legumes, beans and tofu. For all Australians, these foods increase dietary variety and can provide a valuable, affordable source of protein and other nutrients found in meats. These foods are also particularly important for those who follow vegetarian or vegan dietary patterns. Australians following a vegetarian diet can still meet nutrient requirements if energy needs are met and the appropriate number and variety of serves from the Five Food Groups are eaten throughout the day. For those eating a vegan diet, supplementation of B12 is recommended.

The Mayo Clinic

A well-planned vegetarian diet (see context) can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women. The key is to be aware of your nutritional needs so that you plan a diet that meets them.

The Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada

Vegetarian diets (see context) can provide all the nutrients you need at any age, as well as some additional health benefits.

Harvard Medical School

Traditionally, research into vegetarianism focused mainly on potential nutritional deficiencies, but in recent years, the pendulum has swung the other way, and studies are confirming the health benefits of meat-free eating. Nowadays, plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses.

 

[Anastasia 6,093]

17 minutes ago, LuMetal said:

haha

damn son, you're good.  you wont get anywhere with me, but keep doing your thing.  i like it

Please read the study, if you care about animal abuse or climate change then the study should be important to you. If you want to pretend you don't have empathy, then this isn't the thread for you.

[Zombie 1,218]

Just now, Anastasia said:

I'm not sure what you mean, but I am currently in university studying dietetics and I can tell you that all major dietetic organizations agree that veganism can be just as healthy as non-veganism. 

 

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All the major dietetics and health organizations in the world agree that vegan and vegetarian diets are just as healthy as omnivorous diets. Here are links to what some of them have to say on the subject:

American Dietetic Association

It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.

Dietitians of Canada

A well planned vegan diet can meet all of these needs. It is safe and healthy for pregnant and breastfeeding women, babies, children, teens and seniors.

The British National Health Service

With good planning and an understanding of what makes up a healthy, balanced vegan diet, you can get all the nutrients your body needs.

The British Nutrition Foundation

A well-planned, balanced vegetarian or vegan diet can be nutritionally adequate ... Studies of UK vegetarian and vegan children have revealed that their growth and development are within the normal range.

The Dietitians Association of Australia

Vegan diets are a type of vegetarian diet, where only plant-based foods are eaten. They differ to other vegetarian diets in that no animal products are usually consumed or used. Despite these restrictions, with good planning it is still possible to obtain all the nutrients required for good health on a vegan diet.

The United States Department of Agriculture

Vegetarian diets (see context) can meet all the recommendations for nutrients. The key is to consume a variety of foods and the right amount of foods to meet your calorie needs. Follow the food group recommendations for your age, sex, and activity level to get the right amount of food and the variety of foods needed for nutrient adequacy. Nutrients that vegetarians may need to focus on include protein, iron, calcium, zinc, and vitamin B12.

The National Health and Medical Research Council

Alternatives to animal foods include nuts, seeds, legumes, beans and tofu. For all Australians, these foods increase dietary variety and can provide a valuable, affordable source of protein and other nutrients found in meats. These foods are also particularly important for those who follow vegetarian or vegan dietary patterns. Australians following a vegetarian diet can still meet nutrient requirements if energy needs are met and the appropriate number and variety of serves from the Five Food Groups are eaten throughout the day. For those eating a vegan diet, supplementation of B12 is recommended.

The Mayo Clinic

A well-planned vegetarian diet (see context) can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women. The key is to be aware of your nutritional needs so that you plan a diet that meets them.

The Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada

Vegetarian diets (see context) can provide all the nutrients you need at any age, as well as some additional health benefits.

Harvard Medical School

Traditionally, research into vegetarianism focused mainly on potential nutritional deficiencies, but in recent years, the pendulum has swung the other way, and studies are confirming the health benefits of meat-free eating. Nowadays, plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses.

 

PLUS, theres not a shady marketing behind it, you dont need to buy expensive vegan food, just whole foods that usually dont have a "brand", this lifestyle is not trying to sell you special products or things like that, thats what convince me the most

[Anastasia 6,093]

2 minutes ago, Leonardo Fox said:

PLUS, theres not a shady marketing behind it, you dont need to buy expensive vegan food, just whole foods that usually dont have a "brand", this lifestyle is not trying to sell you special products or things like that, thats what convince me the most

You're so awesome, love that you are open minded 

[LuMetal 68]

Just now, Anastasia said:

Please read the study, if you care about animal abuse or climate change then the study should be important to you. If you want to pretend you don't have empathy, then this isn't the thread for you.

i didnt read this particular study but i know this stuff already through my own research into it for my english class. the instructor had this sustainability thing as a theme. some good stuff.

i really dont have much empathy i mean i know all of this stuff and saw food inc and whatnot but i just cant give up eating animals. good on ya if you can, its the future lifestyle of humanity most likely, not the current lifestyle for me though  

[Anastasia 6,093]

5 minutes ago, PaperIz said:

This was my sign from God not to go vegan tbh

 

 

I've never had Quorn products, and I am sure most vegans haven't either. No product is necessary to eat as a vegan.

[Anastasia 6,093]

17 minutes ago, AKB48 said:

but I read that you bodys needs to eat EVERYTHING, otherwise it will not get all the nutrients it needs, cause our body is designed to eat both meat and vegetables

You should see a registered dietitian, because this is simply not true and they are the most qualified person in nutrition to tell you that you do not need animal proteins or nutrients to survive. 

Sorry I replied twice, mess 

regardless, if you need any more info let let me know and I can try to help haha

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

1 hour ago, Anastasia said:

The cholesterol content is certainly not healthy nor beneficial, same with the fat content. If you are interested in a healthy diet than vegansism is definitely for you. 

Butter, eggs, avocado, nuts, seeds and fish all contain lots of fat. And all are healthy.

Cholesterol is essential structural component of all animal cell membranes; essential to maintain both membrane structural integrity and fluidity.

Please don't try and make cholesterol or fat the bad guy when we all know that it is processed food containing preservatives, synthetic colours and flavours, and other chemicals and additives, which is the real cause of poor health.

Margarine (synthetic) is evil. Butter (natural) is nourishing and good for you.

Eggs are life.

 

[Goosey 3,017]

2 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

Margarine (synthetic) is evil. Butter (natural) is nourishing and good for you.

Where does "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter!" fit in?

[Sizzily 14,571]

That's great for vegan.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

3 minutes ago, Goosey said:

Where does "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter!" fit in?

It fits in the trash can.

[Anastasia 6,093]

2 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

Butter, eggs, avocado, nuts, seeds and fish all contain lots of fat. And all are healthy.

Cholesterol is essential structural component of all animal cell membranes; essential to maintain both membrane structural integrity and fluidity.

Please don't try and make cholesterol or fat the bad guy when we all know that it is processed food containing preservatives, synthetic colours and flavours, and other chemicals and additives, which is the real cause of poor health.

Margarine (synthetic) is evil. Butter (natural) is nourishing and good for you.

Eggs are life.

 

I am in school studying dietetics, I am not trying to make cholesterol or fats the bad guys, I am just trying to educate. We make enough cholesterol in our body, we do not need to be eating cholesterol from other animals. Fats are important, but they do not need to be high in our diet. 1/3 of the population is obese, with high fats you are just building more fat onto your body, I recommend high carb because carbs give you energy. 

Margarine is no more evil than many other saturated fatty foods, specifically meat and dairy products. Earth Balance is a vegan butter, you do not have to have vegan margarine, I was just trying to give examples.

Eggs (Stole from reddit): 

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"Fowl Play", a film about the egg-laying industry.

"Can Vegans Eat Eggs From Backyard Chickens? VEGGANS?!", a summary in brief of all the issues covered here.

YES, your pet hens too! This list is meant to address specifically the problems with eggs that remain even if the birds are beloved pets. Note that all of these points except for 5 apply even if you have your own chickens who you raise as pets. Those hens came from somewhere!

Half the chicks born are male. If you have your own hens who you love and care for, they had brothers. When you bought the females, built into the price was literally a disposal fee for the males. And again, this isn't just a factory farm issue - anyone who purchases hens pays for culling the males.

They are bred to lay 250 eggs a year when their wild counterparts lay 12. This isn't healthy or fun for them, they are prone to health disorders that are extremely painful and deadly. This point causes eye rolls -- but it's serious. If you are someone who doesn't support inbred dogs who are unhealthy (like bulldogs who are famous for breathing trouble and early death) then it's not okay to support breeding unhealthy animals for eggs either.

Even if you purchase the males, you are still supporting the hatchery where that's part of the business model. Most people wouldn't condone supporting a puppy mill which routinely kills the less desirable puppies.

There are benefits to both decreasing the egg laying and leaving the eggs with the hens. Some dedicated hen rescuers actually get their hens birth control to soothe their out of control reproductive systems. Others say leaving the eggs with the hens decrease the number they lay and thus improve their health. And finally, the hens will eat their own eggs and that helps them regain a lot of what they lost in creating those eggs and is an elegant solution to the last point I'll make below.

Finally the only bullet point most people want to acknowledge. It's only a part of why eggs are unethical. Typically, hens are intensely confined, unable to exhibit natural behaviors and debeaked without anesthetic. It's true that this point is avoidable, hobbyists can avoid these particular issues and the rare farm. However, it's important to know that agribusiness employs deceptive marketing to pass eggs as coming from humane situations. Debeaking is allowed by almost every "humane" standard and the absolute highest standard for space of any of the humane certifications is 2ft x 2ft per hen.

As hens age their production drops. Additionally, their health declines and disorders caused by their unethical breeding are more likely to show up. They could live 8 years, but on profitable operations they are killed at 18 months. That's still a very young bird!

You can rescue hens, and that means you aren't directly supporting the slaughter of the males and you may be giving the females a chance at a good life. That's awesome, but there are reasons why animal rescues don't eat the eggs. Most were covered in point 4 - but a final point is that chickens are possibly the most abused animal on the planet and how their flesh and reproductive products taste is not a justification for that. A desperation to eat their eggs without consideration of how it affects them is perversion. There are only so many females in need of rescue because of the violent industry. When we eat those eggs the message we send is that there are times where that's ok -- and in my years of talking to people about this issue, it seems that the message they hear from that is always "eggs are okay if you buy the humane ones!" And since "humane" eggs in marketing terms means slaughter, intense confinement and everything people think is limited to factory farms the risk of sending that message is completely unacceptable. This is especially true, because as mentioned above there does not exist a "humane" certification for eggs which gives the hen more than a 2x2 of space, almost all allow for debeaking and all cull the males and breed unhealthy birds. These animals are not for us to use, we do not need to eat their eggs and the only ethical default behavior is not to do something to someone who is helpless until harm is proven, but to err on the side of not doing it and certainly not paying for it to be done until we've seriously considered the victim's point of view.

They are completely unnecessary to our health, and cause a lot of pain and suffering to animals.

[Goosey 3,017]

2 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

It fits in the trash can.

But it's like butter, only spreadable  for those who haven't heard of a butter dish.

[Anastasia 6,093]

5 minutes ago, Sizzily said:

That's great for vegan.

If you read the study, it focuses on how vegan diets can help the earth. If you care about climate change and the future, a plant based diet is something you can easily add into your lifestyle to promote change.

[Sizzily 14,571]

Just now, Anastasia said:

If you read the study, it focuses on how vegan diets can help the earth. If you care about climate change and the future, a plant based diet is something you can easily add into your lifestyle to promote change.

Nah, I'm good.