VF:How Lady Gaga’s Joanne Marks the End of the “Zany Pop Star” Era

[MonsterJay 1,539]

This article was soo great omg :'o

[Juanjo 2,139]

Gaga, on her own lane. So proud of her! 

[Economy 49,536]

11 hours ago, Red said:

I don't get why people are just assuming she is now a country singer and this is her style from now on, forever and ever. She herself said if you think you know Gaga, she proves you wrong  

Tbh

 

Real artists reinvent themselves and try new things

 

ATM Gaga wants to focus on the music and less so on visuals and performance art

 

But dont kid yourself, she enjoyed the performance art she did for 5 years or so. Unless she was faking  it all im sure it was legit

 

Just because this stripped down thing is what shes doing this era or maybe even the next doesnt mean this is the new her for all eternity!

[christinahoney 383]

Unfortunately the new music is not very interesting either. She could've just taken away the visuals and kept a hard hitting, unique, exciting music style. Instead, she tones down EVERYTHING. Sad. I was so excited about a new Gaga Era for 3 years. Now we find out there IS no new "Gaga" Era. See you in 3 years, I guess. Hoping Kylie delivers a proper dance record with her next album. 

Edit: You can't compliment her for "taking her own lane" when every pop star right now is making mellow, laid back music. Rihanna, Britney, Katy, none of them have made any hard pop tunes lately. So if anything she is actually just following the trend of being more stripped and simple. 

[crisTEAne 21,059]

these articles on the joanne era have been well-written and insightful so far. this one was no exception: a very good read. my favorite parts are the following: 

She positioned herself less in the pop-star lane, someone attempting to keep up with the trends of the industry, and rather as a seasoned veteran, who dips into the world of music when and in the way she pleases, worried much more about artistic vision than commercial output.

Gaga’s aesthetic for the Joanne album cycle is one of rawness, simplicity, and perceived authenticity.

i think, in this context, the word 'perceived' couldn't be used more accurately: it implies that this "raw" and "simple" approach she's taking is just a perfect illusion. her artistry has always been authentic to her (and, hopefully, to LMs), it's just (just as with the whole "is gagz a character?" thing) that now she's playing on the preconceived, somewhat elitist, idea that talent doesn't need any form of extravaganza, only a stripped-back way of singing good music. she's, once again, playing with the expectations of the GP and the music industry. it doesn't mean, however, that her previous efforts were not authentic. as she said in that time interview: those were, and still are, an organic part of her "fantasy collages."  

That certainly seems to be the narrative she is aiming for now, telling T Magazine this week, “It’s an endless proving of myself, that I really am a musician, that I have something to offer in the room. That women can be musicians, women can be rock stars, women can be more than an objectified idea of a pop star . . . When I’m making music, I can hear all the parts, all the instruments. I can hear what it should be.” The signal here—this album is about the music, everyone!—could not be made any clearer.

the way she pronounces the word “love” in the chorus of “Perfect Illusion” is like a scar from a removed tattoo

Her presentation for Joanne is perhaps as finite an end as we will get to the Zany, Weird Pop Star phase of the early 2010s

Gaga ushered in that phase, and she also now ushers us out of it.

But seven years later, a remark—as she wails “Million Reasons” in jean shorts and a pastel cowboy hat in Studio 8H—of, “She is unlike anyone else,” would be just as apt now, perhaps even more so.

[prince 4,688]

Is Joanne finally going to be the era where people sit back and realise she's actually a good artist? Are people going to finally admit that yes she did help bring interest and intrigue into pop music 

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10 hours ago, aaronyoji said:

The fact of the matter is those days are over for every artist. We're not in those times anymore where it's surprising or cool to mock gagas outrageous gaudy-ness, and that includes gaga as well. 

But that's exactly what I'm saying. Those times are over for every artist. But after some of her comments and just my own personal reasons,  I was hoping Gaga would be the one who kept it going regardless, I thought she could be the one we could always count on when it came to that type of thing. But I guess at the end of the day, everyone "matures" or becomes just another performer. There are tons of talented musicians who keep it "raw" and "simple" Now she's just another one of them.

She's certainly talented enough that she doesn't need anything more,  I just thought she would be an exception. I loved that she had all the talent in the world and still brought it to a whole new level with her outrageous persona and performances. 

By the way, by no means do I think she's not gonna go back to that at some point. I'm sure she will. However, the mystique is now gone!!

 

 

[chromasine 5,439]

20 hours ago, DonchoMonster said:

I cant believe the person who released the Telephone video and Perfect Illusion video is the same. I get that she is growing up and bla bla, but that doesnt mean she has to forget she is a visionary. Maybe she isnt one anymore, time will tell. I am excited for the next music video but also worried. Love you anyway Gaga!

Being a 'visionary' is not limited to EDM beats and over-the-top costumes. I think this is what some Gaga fans do not, could not, would not grasp. Let's widen our perspective. 

[Born Brave 2,072]

..... they haven't heard Dancin In Circles obvs. 

[Born Brave 2,072]

When I’m making music, I can hear all the parts, all the instruments. I can hear what it should be.” The signal here—this album is about the music, everyone!—could not be made any clearer.

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2 hours ago, princetomc said:

Is Joanne finally going to be the era where people sit back and realise she's actually a good artist? Are people going to finally admit that yes she did help bring interest and intrigue into pop music 

No. Because that era already took place during the 3 year gab between albums. She's already proved that she's the real deal. That's why I was hoping for something larger than life again.

[prince 4,688]

2 minutes ago, HORRORHOLIC said:

No. Because that era already took place during the 3 year gab between albums. She's already proved that she's the real deal. That's why I was hoping for something larger than life again.

People still aren't taking her seriously as a pop star, everyone see's a woman with enormous talent producing in their eyes crap pop music. Hopefully they can see that she's talented AND puts that talent into her pop music, people don't seem to connect those things; we still see "wow she's talented, why doesn't she make music like this?" and it's time for that to end.

[MelbHawker 6,583]

21 hours ago, PI Floppedt said:

I love this part the most though:

"Her presentation for Joanne is perhaps as finite an end as we will get to the Zany, Weird Pop Star phase of the early 2010s (Katy Perry wearing a cube on her head to an awards show; Miley Cyrus constructing a skull made of french fries in a music video). All of that would seem silly now, if a pop star tried it. Gaga ushered in that phase, and she also now ushers us out of it."

VF knows.

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19 minutes ago, princetomc said:

People still aren't taking her seriously as a pop star, everyone see's a woman with enormous talent producing in their eyes crap pop music. Hopefully they can see that she's talented AND puts that talent into her pop music, people don't seem to connect those things; we still see "wow she's talented, why doesn't she make music like this?" and it's time for that to end.

Hopefully that's the case then. But are people gonna take the fake southern accent seriously ? And I'm being serious. Aren't they gonna think it's yet another gimmick ? 

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

22 hours ago, PI Floppedt said:

The true queen of reinvention  

I love this part the most though:

"Her presentation for Joanne is perhaps as finite an end as we will get to the Zany, Weird Pop Star phase of the early 2010s (Katy Perry wearing a cube on her head to an awards show; Miley Cyrus constructing a skull made of french fries in a music video). All of that would seem silly now, if a pop star tried it. Gaga ushered in that phase, and she also now ushers us out of it."

in the same day that Billboard reminded everyone that Gaga was a force that changed pop