Lance Vance 90 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, Haroon said: 'When I’m making records, I’m never thinking, ‘How can I make this something that’s accepted?"' Didn't she say that ARTPOP's songs were designed to be radio hits or something though? I hope she's come out of the ARTPOP era with thicker skin (not saying that she didn't before, but that I don't want things negatively affecting here again ) and ready to take Joanne by the horns and GO GO GO Yea and Popjustice said she was asking fans what she should change on the songs and thats why she changed a bunch of them at the last minute. Queen of lying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,805 Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, PartySick said: It's called living halfway between reality and fantasy at all times Imo, and I might be totally wrong, when writing the song itself, she's thinking about the message she wants to convey and the story she wants to tell. The production, however, can be "radio friendly". The production on ARTPOP really took a seat of importance 'cause the whole album (save Dope) was supposed to be this "explosion of my pain in electronic music". So both of her statements are true at the same time, she just had those thoughts at different stages during the album's development You know, planting and growing a healthy flower before you make it presentable As long as that flower is neon green and pink with black vomit on it and little Koons Orb ornaments Reveal hidden contents At least, that's my rationality. We all know the girl's crazy I think it's simpler than that, it's just a different approach she took to making music this time around. The emphasis was somewhere else. I think with ARTPOP she really did want to please us, her fans, while with Joanne it's about doing this personal, relatable, my father's daughter mother's daughter etc. message So just different motivations while making the record Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 8 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said: You usually try to understand every other artist, it's funny how you want to show now that she's contradicting herself. I don't see how those two statements don't fit together. I won't bother to say anything else. Who said I haven't tried to understand this? You're here making assumptions and jabs but not trying to enlighten me when you clearly disagree with my opinion - so you're basically just looking for drama and a fight, you're not looking for an actual discussion 12 minutes ago, KURUSHITOVSKA said: She is able to design an album dedicated to the mainstream and desing the next one as more "not-mainstream-focused" 5 minutes ago, PartySick said: It's called living halfway between reality and fantasy at all times Imo, and I might be totally wrong, when writing the song itself, she's thinking about the message she wants to convey and the story she wants to tell. The production, however, can be "radio friendly". The production on ARTPOP really took a seat of importance 'cause the whole album (save Dope) was supposed to be this "explosion of my pain in electronic music". So both of her statements are true at the same time, she just had those thoughts at different stages during the album's development You know, planting and growing a healthy flower before you make it presentable As long as that flower is neon green and pink with black vomit on it and little Koons Orb ornaments Reveal hidden contents At least, that's my rationality. We all know the girl's crazy Oooh I see That is pretty interesting then, like taking parts here and parts there and being able to synchronise them and make them work harmoniously To be honest I think she did do that with majority of ARTPOP anyway. But now that the brief and goal are different it's gonna be interesting how Joanne goes Not chart-wise, I mean generally music-wise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, PartySick said: Gotta put food on the table somehow. Especially when you're basically having a Thanksgiving feast with the people you make music with every time you see them Just saying, hit making shouldn't be a priority. If she wanted, all she'd have to do is write some simple lyrics with a "ra-ra-ga-ga-la-la" hook over a RedOne track. It'd top the charts for god knows how long. It's obviously something she doesn't care about too much and I think that's great Yes, she's more than talented enough to write music for the taste of the public. She goes her own way, and I applaud her for that. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varo Yan 2,984 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Now I'm sure, Perfect Illusion and Million Reasons are about her fake fans and their fake love toward his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,959 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I honestly am a firm believer that ARTPOP is miles better than Born This Way, the album is amazing, I really don't get it, it's the era itself that flopped due to poor management and Gaga's mental state and regardless it should not affect the fact that the album is amazing. I honestly don't see how critics were able to appreciate Born This Way which for me could have been a career killer if it wasn't for TFM's impact. Born This Way has extremely experimental and risky tracks such as Judas, Highway Unicorn, Americano, Government Hooker. BTW is full of non-mainstream stuff yet was given a pass cause it followed TFM. ARTPOP is a commercial album, it really is, every song is almost a pop song for you to shake your booty in the clubs, it's a great album but basic, the GP should have ate it up tbh. Heck even TF is less basic than ARTPOP when you consider it's time of release, other than the wacky yet beautiful lyrics, ARTPOP is in the same boat as all other pop albums. I think the GP were just wanting to see her downfall, cause I won't believe for a second that BTW was better received cause it was liked more, it was simply cause it was following a mega-successful album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 48 minutes ago, KURUSHITOVSKA said: I have seen them like "PI is a flop, PI is too rock, Gaga needs to dress weird, etc". PI is NOT commercial pop music now. This is commercial pop musoc nowadays. Pop music changes everytime, please tell me what Pi has todo with this sound Not every hit song sounds the same :P Work By Rihanna was very different than the popular radio hits but was #1 for 10 weeks,same with Hello and MANY other songs. The thing is PI has a pop structure which means that it's made in a way to be memorable and catchy.It just didn't work with the GP.That doesn't make the song rock or alternative. "PI is a flop".That has nothing to do with the sound.It's obvious that many chart fans would complain about the bad positions of the song ."PI is too rock" I have talked with hundreds of people about the song and literally NOBODY ever said that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,959 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 56 minutes ago, Haroon said: I'm not trying to insult her I just don't see how those two statements fit together so I'm questioning it and my own memory. If I don't understand what she meant by that and you do then please explain it to me Oh I remember when she made that statement to me it was more about how every song can be on the radio and touch people, instead of having an album with just a few singles targeted for radio and chart success and a bunch of filler songs. She's trying to say that she put effort onto the whole album instead of focusing on a hit or two, thus they are all equally as good and equally single worthy to Gaga, : ) hope I made sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickiMinajStan 6,723 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Over 2 million copies worldwide, how on earth is that a flop... 💀 Anyways, well said, love that she supports and stands by her work HEART OF EVER-FROST Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Vance 90 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Versace said: I honestly am a firm believer that ARTPOP is miles better than Born This Way, the album is amazing, I really don't get it, it's the era itself that flopped due to poor management and Gaga's mental state and regardless it should not affect the fact that the album is amazing. I honestly don't see how critics were able to appreciate Born This Way which for me could have been a career killer if it wasn't for TFM's impact. Born This Way has extremely experimental and risky tracks such as Judas, Highway Unicorn, Americano, Government Hooker. BTW is full of non-mainstream stuff yet was given a pass cause it followed TFM. ARTPOP is a commercial album, it really is, every song is almost a pop song for you to shake your booty in the clubs, it's a great album but basic, the GP should have ate it up tbh. Heck even TF is less basic than ARTPOP when you consider it's time of release, other than the wacky yet beautiful lyrics, ARTPOP is in the same boat as all other pop albums. I think the GP were just wanting to see her downfall, cause I won't believe for a second that BTW was better received cause it was liked more, it was simply cause it was following a mega-successful album. BTW was her true music not the bling moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donutellha 13,819 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 2 hours ago, BLACKOUTbritney said: Interesting she said this to Yahoo, one of the sites that spent all of 2013/2014 trashing her and calling her a flop reverse expedition indeed Walk down the runway but don't puke, it's okay. You just had 10 donuts today. Without frosting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagafy 296 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 This proves she does care of the reception of her material, be it ARTPOP or PI. Fans who couldnt accept other fans having opinion about PI should just refer what she has said here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KleinGa 18,177 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I hate that we made her regret doing something she felt so passionate about. Us Little Flopsters should feel privileged that she chose to share her art in such a form with us. We are ungrateful little bottoms tbh. I remember how passionate she was about the message about ARTPOP. We don't deserve her tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkin 100 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 The era was a mess but the album was good, It represented an important evolution for Gags. Further it made me respect her more as an educated artist who actually knew a thing or two about the kind of art she was trying to create. The woman has substance, even if some of her music doesn't have a heady artsy feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummerGirl21 787 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 4 hours ago, Bradley Cooper said: I know she's not gonna see this but I want to tell her to not regret making ARTPOP. It's my and a lot of fans' favorite album of hers and the performances and videos and music brought us joy no other album have given us before. It's one of a kind and will always be regarded as one of my favourite albums. It helped me appreciate artistry on another level and I've seen things differently after that album. I'd regard this album as having a bigger impact on me than Born This Way did. It's not my favorite of hers, but I thought it was leagues better than BTW and had several spectacular moments. I hope she never regrets ARTPOP. Sexxx Dreams will always be one of my favorite tracks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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