What does Gaga have left to prove?

[CLLGaga 928]

Sadly she has to prove that she's not a fluke/fad

[Bebe 17,093]

48 minutes ago, Angel Down said:

Well she would have to prove her longetivity as a successful artist I guess. But I'd rather have quality over success anytime so I don't care.

Edit: On a second thought, why not both?  Bad Romance WAS quality, so was Poker Face and Born This Way.. Idk omg

Both is fine  but why is success relevant? Like why put 'success' in the equation at all?

Bad Romance is quality, but I also think a song like Heavy Metal Lover is quality and I don't think a song like HML would have a chance on radio.

If she is releasing quality music, it really wouldn't matter if it was at the level of BR, PF, BTW or not surely.

[Dayman 6,159]

That she's Italian.

[CLLGaga 928]

41 minutes ago, Snow said:

Erm so are you succesting that she has allready achieved everything on The planet and is in The place of a legend who truly has nothing to prove anymore but to enjoy life? Nothing has ever surpassed her work? Shes been true pioneer if everything? Riiiight...

Then you would be very very wrong. She has quite a lot to prove and "endure" to achieve The forementioned status of a legend. As you know, a few number ones don't do it. There are hundreds of artists with those through out history. Yet not all are legends that endured The rest of time...

But like I said in some other thread. She doesnt have to he numbe one to be a legend. However certain degree of success is needed. 

But most of all, she needs to keep proving herself as an artist for another 15+ years to be a legend. So yeah, she has a lot to prove still. Ofcourse she can do it! 

 

Ps. Be "proving" I truly mean delivery brilliant artistry that will make ppl want to see/listen to her for years to come. Again, moderate commercial success is plenty enough.

I wouldn't say 15 years but she needs like at least 2 more TFM level albums/eras to leave her mark as a legend. If not, she's going to be seen as a has been.

[Bebe 17,093]

2 minutes ago, CLLGaga said:

Sadly she has to prove that she's not a fluke/fad

I mean, she has nearly been in this industry for 10 years... She isn't a fad

But like... Imagine she never had a #1 single again... So? Why should Gaga care? With a career like Gaga's why would it matter? She has done all of that, she has left a mark. 

In her position why wouldn't she just create interesting music without any thought of the charts?

[Hew 988]

56 minutes ago, Sycamore said:

Gaga is not doing music for the charts anymore. She is doing music to heal her soul after what ARTPOP did to her and relation to her fans and public.

Ayee! ARTPOP slays like a mofo. I love the album to the moon and back. I still can't get over why so many fans hate it. it's my jam tbh. I like every single song on ARTPOP, and that goes for every other album and 99.9% of her unreleased stuff.

[President Biden 5,898]

That she is Italian, we need the receipts 

 

 

That she can become president with VP Mark Ronson in 2024

 

That she can release a solo original jazz album

 

She can sell out stadium tours without hit songs because she's a rockstar legend

 

Releases her defining final hit

 

Does a visual album that scalps my wig

 

Grows a good garden with Daddy Kinney and Batpig 

[Versace 7,959]

She can always make a better album than The Fame Monster 

That album ticks all the boxes

-Quality

-Timeless

-Loved by everyone (critics, GP, fans)

-Diverse yet Cohesive 

-Sonically superior to many other "pop records"

-Lyrically brilliant 

-Thematically Appealing 

-Vocally Powerful 

-Memorable Hooks

 

Think about it as great as her other albums are they are not close to the perfection of TFM

-The Fame can be a little bit basic for modern day

-Born This Way is overproduced and too preachy

-ARTPOP has an identity crisis of some sorts musically speaking

-Watch Joanne be bland here and there

 

[Creyk 17,805]

8 minutes ago, Bebe said:

I mean, she has nearly been in this industry for 10 years... She isn't a fad

But like... Imagine she never had a #1 single again... So? Why should Gaga care? With a career like Gaga's why would it matter? She has done all of that, she has left a mark. 

In her position why wouldn't she just create interesting music without any thought of the charts?

Her carreer lasted 3 years. Sorry but going by facts, she is one. That is just the truth. 2009-2010-2011-DONE

This was her chance to come back and she wasted it

[CLLGaga 928]

Just now, Bebe said:

I mean, she has nearly been in this industry for 10 years... She isn't a fad

But like... Imagine she never had a #1 single again... So? Why should Gaga care? With a career like Gaga's why would it matter? She has done all of that, she has left a mark. 

In her position why wouldn't she just create interesting music without any thought of the charts?

She only had 1 hit in the past 4.5 years. Pop culture moves very quickly and it left Gaga behind sadly.

And idk where you guys get this idea that Gaga doesn't care about charts. 

She just retweeted this a few days ago 

 

And if you watched this interview from last yearshe clearly cares about having a big comeback, as she should... since she's a popstar. 

 

[Bebe 17,093]

Just now, CLLGaga said:

I wouldn't say 15 years but she needs like at least 2 more TFM level albums/eras to leave her mark as a legend. If not, she's going to be seen as a has been.

It feels like you are missing the point though, you are talking like the type I mention in OP who  need her to be successful so she can 'reclaim her throne' or some other ludicrous reason".

She has had a spectacular career, she has achieved more than most can dream of and she can pursue any project she wants. I'm happy that her focus is still on music, as obviously I'm a fan of her music but the girl could spend her time as a lead actress on AHS and other shows if she wanted. 

She could release more albums with Tony Bennett, do some work with Elton, write for Broadway, release a totally obscure avant garde album, she could become an editor for a fashion mag, she could spend more time learning from Marina Abramovic and become a high brow performance artist.

If the future music she creates has less commercial impact than she had in her imperial phase who cares? Especially why would Gaga care? In a lot of ways I genuinely couldn't think of anything more boring than Gaga adjusting what she wants to make creatively in order to appeal to a pop market better.

I couldn't think of anything more boring than seeing Gaga continue to 'compete' in this pop music market for what? So people can't say "LOL that Gaga girl who won all those grammys, wrote iconic songs, had iconic music videos, had iconic performances, made an album with Tony Bennett, won multiple grammys, won a golden globe, had work in the louvre, made over $250 million, starred in a hit T.V show, toured the world, contributed to a movie ect was such a fad!!!"? I mean how lame. 

[Bebe 17,093]

5 minutes ago, Creyk said:

Her carreer lasted 3 years. Sorry but going by facts, she is one. That is just the truth. 2009-2010-2011-DONE

This was her chance to come back and she wasted it

That's one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. She had one of the best years in her career last year. Billboard Woman of the Year, a Golden Globe, an Oscar nomination, acclaimed Superbowl National Anthem performance and Oscar performance. I'm sorry but the girl is reportedly about to play the super bowl... She had a #1 album with Tony Bennett that won a Grammy... She had her work in The Louvre.

I'm sorry, but if your idea of a successful career is "When did they last have a #1 single!!" then you are narrow minded. It's abundantly clear that she is still one of the biggest celebrities on the planet  

[Gaga Medicine 265]

1 hour ago, Snow said:

Erm so are you succesting that she has allready achieved everything on The planet and is in The place of a legend who truly has nothing to prove anymore but to enjoy life? Nothing has ever surpassed her work? Shes been true pioneer if everything? Riiiight...

Then you would be very very wrong. She has quite a lot to prove and "endure" to achieve The forementioned status of a legend. As you know, a few number ones don't do it. There are hundreds of artists with those through out history. Yet not all are legends that endured The rest of time...

But like I said in some other thread. She doesnt have to he numbe one to be a legend. However certain degree of success is needed. 

But most of all, she needs to keep proving herself as an artist for another 15+ years to be a legend. So yeah, she has a lot to prove still. Ofcourse she can do it! 

 

Ps. Be "proving" I truly mean delivery brilliant artistry that will make ppl want to see/listen to her for years to come. Again, moderate commercial success is plenty enough.

She is not a legend, but she is already in a comfortable place. OP never used the word "legend". YOU are using it and trying to create a situation.

[Alphaz 7,956]

She doesn't seem to care about anything anymore

[swordstalker 1,829]

Well of course she doesn't have anything to prove. However, being so insanely talented in so many areas, I would love to see her: 1. write a rock opera, 2. have a full metal album, and 3. do a duets album with different genres with various legends. And generally, I would love to see increasingly technically complex songwriting like unusual song structure, time signatures, chords, etc.