mic 1,415 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 You are over analysing. It's simple: her music is not that impressive anymore, she doesn't even write it by herself (she even gave Mark ronson supervision over whole album), and she's absent from media almost all the time. When we get to see her she is boring/depressed/preaching about family and fiend ship values. she is just not entertaining, she became a sad shade of what she was in the past. And if she continues like this then so can see her retiring very soon after Joanne. nowadays she's more excited about naming artists she works with: tony Bennett , Mark Ronson, Kevin Parker from TAME IMPALA , etc. than just telling everyone: here I am an I'm gonna show you something interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetChromatica 2,266 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 People trying to make opinions not valid by saying we are trying to be little managers, stop! Everyone is entitled to an opinion and my opinion is that I don't like the music video. It's messy, the editing is all over the place and it feels like I'm watching a drug trip or something but not in a good way, it's so hard to watch for me. If you like it then good for you however I have been a fan since 2009 and this is hard for me to adjust to, Gaga is entitled to do whatever she wants with her career, I just feel alienated by this new direction, I still love her and I really like the song. I think she could of re invented herself in a different way but that's up to her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 627 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Idk. It is what it is. I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 My only complaints this era are about her use of fillers and not being herself. The music keeps getting better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBNLM 1,640 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Honestly there is nothing new with Gaga She was Always like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 13 minutes ago, mic said: You are over analysing. It's simple: her music is not that impressive anymore, she doesn't even write it by herself (she even gave Mark ronson supervision over whole album), and she's absent from media almost all the time. When we get to see her she is boring/depressed/preaching about family and fiend ship values. she is just not entertaining, she became a sad shade of what she was in the past. And if she continues like this then so can see her retiring very soon after Joanne. nowadays she's more excited about naming artists she works with: tony Bennett , Mark Ronson, Kevin Parker from TAME IMPALA , etc. than just telling everyone: here I am an I'm gonna show you something interesting. Some people like her new direction and some others dislike it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion because it's up to everyone's personal preferences. Her music is impressive and interesting for some people. You don't have to come here and act like your opinion was universal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 25 minutes ago, BlaqJezus said: I read, as I rode my white horse around my 26million dollar Malibu mansion, wishing I was in my NY apartment overlooking Central Park, all snug and cozy with the myriad of grammys and other awards I've won over my 8 year career as a multi-platinum recording and performance artist with many years of touring under my belt, and an artistic consciousness which has influenced behind the scenes and -the- scene for the entirety of my time as a recognized artist, now even further recognized as a chameleon of showmanship by my peers...yeah, I relate to Gaga a lot, she is juuuust like me. All that aside, BTW was hardly experimentation, her grittier stuff in that era maybe, but her experimentation has always really been live, or unreleased, as a collection of work that shows each and every idea that has come up in her mind and those around her, been taken to board and then scrapped for us to then hear on a leak later. There aren't many other pop things she can do and still stay true to herself and her art, it was time to switch it up, and if she is comparing against herself, she has done that in spades, and remains a better artist for it so far. Winning Grammys, Touring the world and having millions of dollars is not what makes a person.. what makes a person is their emotions, view on life, struggles in life and many more. I can easily relate to a billionaire if I get to know them as a person so you saying that you cant relate to Gaga because shes rich is very shallow. I know she must switch it up and im fine with that but she can still remain theatrical.. when she did Jazz she was extremely theatrical even if she did a completely Rock N Roll album she can be theatrical. When I say theatrical, I do not mean Pop. While I understand her need to do this album this way, its still not something im interested in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout19 11,809 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 We all have our preferences. We all fall in love with ”Crazy” Gaga. It's not that someone don't like her now. But Gaga need to go back to her old videos, pop/dance songs, crazy tours, choreography. i'm a powerpuff girl. ○● Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic 1,415 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 30 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: Some people like her new direction and some others dislike it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion because it's up to everyone's personal preferences. Her music is impressive and interesting for some people. You don't have to come here and act like your opinion was universal. I meant less innovative as well which is undeniably true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Old Gaga fans struggle with this new Gaga because everything we got back then is superior to what we're getting now - music, videos, her way of connecting to us etc. it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free My Mind 2,209 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, mic said: You are over analysing. It's simple: her music is not that impressive anymore, she doesn't even write it by herself (she even gave Mark ronson supervision over whole album), and she's absent from media almost all the time. When we get to see her she is boring/depressed/preaching about family and fiend ship values. she is just not entertaining, she became a sad shade of what she was in the past. And if she continues like this then so can see her retiring very soon after Joanne. nowadays she's more excited about naming artists she works with: tony Bennett , Mark Ronson, Kevin Parker from TAME IMPALA , etc. than just telling everyone: here I am an I'm gonna show you something interesting. there's one thing wrong with your post "her music is not that impressive - TO YOU" it's subjective mate. To me, her music is still impressive, I love Perfect Illusion. And I still think she writes the majority of the stuff - giving a producer supervision over an album isn't new - DJWS for ARTPOP - Fernando Garibay for BTW. It's not as if she just buys songs off of Mark Ronson, records them then runs away. The creation of the album sounds like a real collaborative process between them all, which I don't seem to be a bad thing. It's not like she's undercrediting them either, she mentions them in every interview - I'd be more worried if she didn't name them. If you don't find it impressive, and you're not a fan - that's fine. But don't make sweeping statements. I'm sure you can find other artists that do it for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausAlly 799 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 been here since TFM still loving everything, even when people tried to make me feel bad about liking ARTPOP i laughed in their face and asked if they knew about our lord and saviour Lady Gaga i think you might be onto something with this one too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I am a fan since day 1 and I'm loving this era and her new direction because it's not as boring as seeing her doing jazz. I always wanted her to remove the weird outfits and make people focus on her talent. I always wanted that! ¿Qué currículum tiene ésta tarántula? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masaki 71 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 To put it as simple as possible, her fans fall in love with her for different reasons. Some for her fashion. Some for her music. Some for what she stands for. Whatever the case, as a fan, you are NOT obligated to love everything she does or creates. That is the whole part of having an opinion, right? I do not see the point in telling somebody "lol gurl bye are you even a fan" if they're not liking a certain single, because they are remaining true to their tastes. I personally love her crazy outfits and her big hit singles. I also love some of her songs that never became singles. I also am not a fan of some of her songs. As fans we are not obligated to love everything about her. If you do that is fine too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitter 14 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 21 hours ago, Gohan said: I don't know and I really am sorry for saying this, but it is actually kind of stupid. Because an artist is supposed to change, improve, create something new, mature and grow with the years, so I don't know why some think she should/would need to make Poker Faces and Bad Romances all the time. Nobody does that, unless you are a chart addicted ''artist''. It feels annoying and artistically disgusting Let the girl create the hell she wants, nobody is obligating you to like it. If you are already done with her, then move on and keep your 2008 Gaga memories with you as you start to stan for a hit maker machine Well said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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