Yanko 9,860 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bebe said: Tbh I see a lot of change in Beyonce's look, sound and stage performances. Her main strengths are her voice and dancing, she can sing and dance better than 99% of people out there. You could make the same argument about Gaga, so many of her performances are just singing and choreo. Her favourite seems to be choreographed routine and then hop on the piano for a little break (See Paparazzi VMA's, Bad Romance/Speechless BBA, PokerFace/Speechless Grammy, Born This Way Grammy, You and I VMA, Venus/DWUW X factor etc.) But I don't see that as a negative thing, it's the style of that performer. They are working their strengths. you have a point ! wonder what enigma say to this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitwrecked 183 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 What did I just read? There's only so many dance moves the body can do. Do you want here to be Mr Fantastic or something. Http://i.imgur.com/fw4fnb7.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, Bebe said: Tbh I see a lot of change in Beyonce's look, sound and stage performances. Her main strengths are her voice and dancing, she can sing and dance better than 99% of people out there. You could make the same argument about Gaga, so many of her performances are just singing and choreo. Her favourite seems to be choreographed routine and then hop on the piano for a little break (See Paparazzi VMA's, Bad Romance/Speechless BBA, PokerFace/Speechless Grammy, Born This Way Grammy, You and I VMA, Venus/DWUW X factor etc.) But I don't see that as a negative thing, it's the style of that performer. They are working their strengths. Is not the fact that she always dances that is repetitive. Is her actual dance moves and movement that seem repetitive. But she is a great dancer and singer though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 16 minutes ago, Enigma said: Is not the fact that she always dances that is repetitive. Is her actual dance moves and movement that seem repetitive. But she is a great dancer and singer though. That's how the majority of big artists do it. Same choreo, different looks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,093 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Enigma said: Is not the fact that she always dances that is repetitive. Is her actual dance moves and movement that seem repetitive. But she is a great dancer and singer though. I actually disagree. I really see Beyonce's performances as pretty distinct and her moves are generally pretty distinct. Beyonce performances are recognisable, but is that a bad thing? These performances all have completely different feel, tone and style. They are recognisably Beyonce, but I don't see that as a fault. I think Gaga's Laurieann Gibson/Richy Jackson choreography is pretty recognisable and samish at times, but Gaga also injects a different feel, tone and style to her performances. If you want repetitive moves, looks and performances look no further than Beyonce's greatest influence Michael Jackson. The king. What's an MJ performance without a bit of: and MJ's moves and his look are instantly iconic and recognisable. He is the king. There was nobody else who could do it like him. Similarly, Beyonce's style is recognisable, but who out there can do it like Beyonce? Just look at the VMA awards. There is nobody out there that can do it like Beyonce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracious Gaga 17,163 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 26 minutes ago, Bebe said: Tbh I see a lot of change in Beyonce's look, sound and stage performances. Her main strengths are her voice and dancing, she can sing and dance better than 99% of people out there. You could make the same argument about Gaga, so many of her performances are just singing and choreo. Her favourite seems to be choreographed routine and then hop on the piano for a little break (See Paparazzi VMA's, Bad Romance/Speechless BBA, PokerFace/Speechless Grammy, Born This Way Grammy, You and I VMA, Venus/DWUW X factor etc.) But I don't see that as a negative thing, it's the style of that performer. They are working their strengths. Hell you could say the same thing about Michael Jackson, and he is the greatest entertainer of all time. Her voice? I don't think those were live vocals last night ♥ Kindness Police. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,093 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Gracious Gaga said: Her voice? I don't think those were live vocals last night Yeah her voice, are you kidding? Beyonce is one of our most acclaimed vocalists... One of her strengths is absolutely her powerful voice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, Bebe said: I actually disagree. I really see Beyonce's performances as pretty distinct and her moves are generally pretty distinct. Beyonce performances are recognisable, but is that a bad thing? These performances all have completely different feel, tone and style. They are recognisably Beyonce, but I don't see that as a fault. I think Gaga's Laurieann Gibson/Richy Jackson choreography is pretty recognisable and samish at times, but Gaga also injects a different feel, tone and style to her performances. If you want repetitive moves, looks and performances look no further than Beyonce's greatest influence Michael Jackson. The king. What's an MJ performance without a bit of: and MJ's moves and his look are instantly iconic and recognisable. He is the king. There was nobody else who could do it like him. Similarly, Beyonce's style is recognisable, but who out there can do it like Beyonce? Just look at the VMA awards. There is nobody out there that can do it like Beyonce. I have seen many MJ performances and I agree with you in that he always used his trademark moves too. But for some reason he never gave me the vibe that I was watching the same performance twice. It probably has to do with the fact that he had many trademark moves as opposed to only 2-3 like Beyonce. And Mj used different trademark moves for different performances. Beyonce is still great dancer. And she technically not doing everything the same. But Idk. She just gives me that I seen that before vibe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,093 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, Enigma said: I have seen many MJ performances and I agree with you in that he always used his trademark moves too. But for some reason he never gave me the vibe that I was watching the same performance twice. It probably has to do with the fact that he had many trademark moves as opposed to only 2-3 like Beyonce. And Mj used different trademark moves for different performances. Beyonce is still great dancer. And she technically not doing everything the same. But Idk. She just gives me that I seen that before vibe. Then I mean... I don't know what else I can say I just gave you a list of award show performances that are all entirely different from each other. I never feel like I'm watching the same Beyonce performance twice. I thought her VMA medley this year was different from her medley for her vanguard performance. To me the point is more so about, can Beyonce distinguish herself as a performer? Is she different from everyone else? To that point I say yes. There is no other performer that has the same style and talent of Beyonce. No other artist at the VMAs could have pulled off the performance Beyonce pulled off. I can't think of another popular artist that could. Beyonce should have a recognisable style, her talents and performances should scream Beyonce. If they didn't then she would be in trouble. You need to distinguish yourself from other performers and I think Beyonce does that. She offers something nobody else can. I watch Beyonce perform and can't imagine another star doing what she does, I watch some other pop stars perform and it feels... generic or run of the mill. It feels like you could replace the star with another performer and it wouldn't change anything. Gaga's performances scream Gaga and they play to her talents, Beyonce's performances scream Beyonce and they play to her talents, MJ's performances screamed MJ and they played to his talents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 109,261 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Have you ever actually say something positive about these performers? You build up so much bad juju, dude, watch out for when it goes around at you. 😂😂😂 (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢, 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯'𝘵 (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bebe said: Then I mean... I don't know what else I can say I just gave you a list of award show performances that are all entirely different from each other. I ever feel like I'm watching the same Beyonce performance twice. I thought her VMA medley this year was different from her medley for her vanguard performance. To me the point is more so about, can Beyonce distinguish herself as a performer? Is she different from everyone else? To that point I say yes. There is no other performer that has the same style and talent of Beyonce. No other artist at the VMAs could have pulled off the performance Beyonce pulled off. I can't think of another popular artist that could. She definitely was the best performer by far last night. But I bet Gaga can match her or outdo her. By the way, Gaga also never feels the same because her visuals are drastically different every time she performs, and because she has more variety in what she can do (act, dance, sing, and play instruments. Oh and there is also other random crazy stuff she does (vomit performance, falling from a mountain (edge of glory american idol), mounting pianos, ect.). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,093 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 21 minutes ago, Enigma said: She definitely was the best performer by far last night. But I bet Gaga can match her or outdo her. By the way, Gaga also never feels the same because her visuals are drastically different every time she performs, and because she has more variety in what she can do (act, dance, sing, and play instruments. Oh and there is also other random crazy stuff she does (vomit performance, falling from a mountain (edge of glory american idol), mounting pianos, ect.). Gaga couldn't do the Beyonce performance that Beyonce performed. She just couldn't. That's not where her talents lie and it's not her performance style. Seeing Gaga perform that VMA medley would be as strange as seeing Beyonce finish a performance by being hung by the ceiling covered in blood. It would be as strange as seeing Beyonce come out of a 'vessel' with horns on her face. It would be like seeing Beyonce try to sit on the piano and blow everyone away with her skills. Gaga and Beyonce are two of the very best performers of our generation imo. But don't share the same set of skills and they don't share the same style. I'm well aware of what makes Gaga great and what distinguishes Gaga from every other artist out there, you don't need to tell me. You could say Gaga's theatrics are repetitive though, Gaga is theatre and she plays to those strengths like Beyonce plays to hers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipper 13,077 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I don't necessarily agree with what you said here or your other posts but reading the comments here, your opinions always tend to be unpopular. I somewhat admire you for still voicing them out nonetheless. I would probably have long shut up and stopped posting anything if I were you and be forced to keep my opinion to myself. You are tenacious I will give you that. Keep on making threads and ruffling feathers! I will most probably be coming at you someday but keep on posting and be unfazed. o<(^ú^)>o 🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Beyonce and Gaga are the only artists who are great singers and also entertaining performers. Beyonce can do both at the same time very well, Gaga can sing decently when she's dancing intensely but Gaga has the strength of delivering outstanding vocals when she's not dancing at all, which I think are vocals better than Beyonce's. I guess people have their own strengths. And you gotta play with your strengths no matter how repetitive it becomes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 16 minutes ago, Bebe said: Gaga couldn't do the Beyonce performance that Beyonce performed. She just couldn't. That's not where her talents lie and it's not her performance style. Seeing Gaga perform that VMA medley would be as strange as seeing Beyonce finish a performance by being hung by the ceiling covered in blood. It would be as strange as seeing Beyonce come out of a 'vessel' with horns on her face. It would be like seeing Beyonce try to sit on the piano and blow everyone away with her skills. Gaga and Beyonce are two of the very best performers of our generation imo. But don't share the same set of skills and they don't share the same style. I'm well aware of what makes Gaga great and what distinguishes Gaga from every other artist out there, you don't need to tell me. You could say Gaga's theatrics are repetitive though, Gaga is theatre and she plays to those strengths like Beyonce plays to hers. Except I did not mean match her or out do her by Gaga doing the same performance. I just meant in general. In a showcase of skills, and in creativity I think Gaga is the only one that can match or outdo Beyonce with performing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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