Gigi Gorgeous detained in Dubai for being transgender

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1 hour ago, Himeros26 said:

Gagadaily is still pretty racist/islamophobic I see

 

 

Naturally the most objectionable part of this story isn't that a transgender woman is being detained in a country based on her gender identity, it's the responding criticism being made against that nation, and the religion in which that nation's laws are derived which you find most objectionable. Social Justice Warrior logic in a nutshell.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, FlopSlurper said:

Willam (the drag queen) has been to Dubai and even had a gig there and he didn't get detained. Why her and not willam?

I think you'll find it was pretty difficult for Willam to go/be in Dubai as well. He even commented about it whilst posting about Gigi's situation. 

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4 hours ago, mattwiththehat said:

You're implying that Gigi asked for this by even going there in the first place - that is the whole basis of the 'rape victim asked for it by dressing provocatively' argument.

Was it unwise? Sure...but this is in NO way her fault, and I Implore you to condemn the actions of these airport officials before anything else.

 

This is a huge reach sis. The two situations are completely different. A rape victim never knows before hand if they're getting raped nor can they be prepared. But a transgender visiting a middle eastern country could have at least asked about the laws there to prevent anything happening. It's the LAW. This is not about the law being morally right, which it isn't. This is about how Gigi could have prevented the situation (I mean... They murder gays in the middle east. Did she think she'd be off the hook for looking like a woman or being famous? Thank goodness it's dubai and not somewhere else.) On the opposite hand, a rape victim can NOT in any way predict or prevent rape, whether they're wearing a thong or a burqa.

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1 hour ago, Himeros26 said:

Gagadaily is still pretty racist/islamophobic I see

Um we're not all the same thanks.

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4 hours ago, littlepotter said:

This is a huge reach sis. The two situations are completely different. A rape victim never knows before hand if they're getting raped nor can they be prepared. But a transgender visiting a middle eastern country could have at least asked about the laws there to prevent anything happening. It's the LAW. This is not about the law being morally right, which it isn't. This is about how Gigi could have prevented the situation (I mean... They murder gays in the middle east. Did she think she'd be off the hook for looking like a woman or being famous? Thank goodness it's dubai and not somewhere else.) On the opposite hand, a rape victim can NOT in any way predict or prevent rape, whether they're wearing a thong or a burqa.

The argument that any of this is because of Gigi's ignorance to the law is completely irrelevant to this discussion. The first and only thing any of us should be doing is condemning the discriminatory laws and the actions of the airport officials. 

The comparison is hardly a reach - in many places (the middle east especially) it is illegal to dress provocatively, and women who do so are often raped. The logic that "they shouldn't have been doing that in the first place" is WRONG. And we have a moral obligation as a civilized society to condemn systems that perpetuate this belief.

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I have trans friends that go to Dubai often and they just dress as boys to enter the country

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20 minutes ago, mattwiththehat said:

The argument that any of this is because of Gigi's ignorance to the law is completely irrelevant to this discussion. The first and only thing any of us should be doing is condemning the discriminatory laws and the actions of the airport officials. 

The comparison is hardly a reach - in many places (the middle east especially) it is illegal to dress provocatively, and women who do so are often raped. The logic that "they shouldn't have been doing that in the first place" is WRONG. And we have a moral obligation as a civilized society to condemn systems that perpetuate this.

Um slow it there

Dont generalize. I live in the middle east and it's not like that. What does rape even have to do with this situation you basically repeated everything you said in the post I quoted you in and disregarded what I said about the situation. Not gonna bother 

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25 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

Um slow it there

Dont generalize. I live in the middle east and it's not like that. What does rape even have to do with this situation you basically repeated everything you said in the post I quoted you in and disregarded what I said about the situation. Not gonna bother 

I read it thoroughly - Gigi could have prevented it...um DUH. You're talking about how Gigi should have known better and could of prevented this from happening, which goes without saying. I'm coming from the view that laws like this need to be actively protested and condemned - which is actually what this discussion needs to be about - nothing else.

I bring the rape argument into this because many people point fingers at victims when the conversation needs to be redirected at the aggressors. I'm not bringing rape into this for the sake of it - there is a clear similarity.

Basically your perspective does nothing but deflect attention from where it's needed.

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Utter mess, my best wishes go to Gigi!

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10 hours ago, mattwiththehat said:

that's the first thing that came to your mind with this? 

that's parallel to blaming a rape victim for dressing provocatively.

Not really tho? It sucks that stuff like this still happen in 2016, but it is a reality. 

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9 minutes ago, mattwiththehat said:

I read it thoroughly - Gigi could have prevented it...um DUH. You're talking about how Gigi should have known better and could of prevented this from happening, which goes without saying. I'm coming from the view that laws like this need to be actively protested and condemned - which is actually what this discussion needs to be about - nothing else.

I bring the rape argument into this because many people point fingers at victims when the conversation needs to be redirected at the aggressors. I'm not bringing rape into this for the sake of it - there is a clear similarity.

Basically your perspective does nothing but deflect attention from where it's needed.

So this is about LGBT rights in the ME?

I'm telling you gay people can get killed in some countries and you're trying to make them accept transgenders? 

I live in what is arguably the most open minded middle eastern country and this is faaaaar from happening anytime soon. Lol how would we protest anything when we don't even have a government. Bottom lign is before the serious issues get addressed here, like probably isis invading our countries like cockroaches, social issues wont even get looked at. So for the time being, just avoid coming to this shithole

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He looks just like a girl though except his broad shoulders

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14 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

So this is about LGBT rights in the ME?

yes

14 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

I'm telling you gay people can get killed in some countries and you're trying to make them accept transgenders? 

I live in what is arguably the most open minded middle eastern country and this is faaaaar from happening anytime soon. Lol how would we protest anything when we don't even have a government. Bottom lign is before the serious issues get addressed here, like probably isis invading our countries like cockroaches, social issues wont even get looked at. So for the time being, just avoid coming to this shithole

Is it a huge undertaking? Yes. Will it be easy? No.

But above all that's what the discussion needs to revolve around. We should advise LGBT individuals to avoid these areas, for obvious reasons, but when they are prosecuted under these immoral laws or even killed, our first thought cannot be "why were they there in the first place." Especially in an advanced civilized city like Dubai in this instance.

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devastating, my heart goes out to her, I hope she is home safe and far far away from that place.

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12 minutes ago, colours said:

He looks just like a girl though except his broad shoulders

*She, *Her