Melech 9,900 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, AlphaMonster said: 14 journalists. Let's count them down: Hatice Duman: Member of Marxist–Leninist Communist Party. Do not get the wrong idea that MLCP is an actual political party, it is underground hoxhaist party. In 2016, this party created a block with some other armed far leftist organizations. Mustafa Gök: Member of DHKP-C. A far left organization carrying suicide bombings etc. DHKP-C is also designated as a terrorist organization by US and EU. Seyithan Akyüz: Supporter of PKK. PKK is designated as a terrorist organization by many organizations including US, EU etc etc. PKK operates with actions of urban / mountain guerrilla fighting and suicide bombings. Kenan Karavil: Illegal propaganda of PKK. Erdal Süsem: Illegal propaganda of far leftist terrorist organizations like Maoist Communist Party, DHKP-C. Mehmet Baransu: Arrested for being member of Fethullah Gulen's sect that was the organization behind fail coup d'état in which soldiers killed 200 civilians which is unbelievable. During previous coup d'états of Turkey, no soldier fired their gun to a civilian because coups of Turkey were always supported by civilians to restore the order. Mohammed Ismael Rasool: Turkey-based Iraqi. Aiding PKK. 14 guy is taking too much time. You got an idea. And even all this is true, they should be jailed for it. Also its really debatable if Güllen is really behind the coup. For me and a lot others it look rather that it was staged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, Simon said: Turkey threatens Kurdish people. And i wouldn't call erdogan the most democracy loving person as well. Also some article about "secular Turkey" http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/07/17/ex-turkish-lawmaker-warns-of-rise-in-anti-semitism-following-failed-coup/ I would not call Erdogan the most democracy loving person either. I am only against over exaggeration of issues. Erdogan is an authoritarian figure but not a dictator... Article is a joke. It paints what it needs to paint. Using one single mp of main opposition is another joke. I voted for CHP myself, CHP supported all the crowds on the street and all the rallies. You try way too hard to depict a negative image. Turkey is much more mixed than you think. Like nobody kills each other but lives together. In this picture, you see a beer bottle, a regular guy and 2 other obviously religious people in the same picture and they are not killing each other interesting. In this picture, you see a blond woman with high heels and all that holding an islamic flag. In this picture you see a woman in hardcore burqa waiving a turkish flag with Atatürk on it... I live in Canada currently (I am in Istanbul now for holiday). Believe me Turkey is one of the most cosmopolitan country you can see. There are people of all kinds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 minute ago, AlphaMonster said: I would not call Erdogan the most democracy loving person either. I am only against over exaggeration of issues. Erdogan is an authoritarian figure but not a dictator... Article is a joke. It paints what it needs to paint. Using one single mp of main opposition is another joke. I voted for CHP myself, CHP supported all the crowds on the street and all the rallies. You try way too hard to depict a negative image. Turkey is much more mixed than you think. In this picture, you see a beer bottle, a regular guy and 2 other obviously religious people in the same picture and they are not killing each other interesting. In this picture, you see a blond woman with high heels and all that holding an islamic flag. In this picture you see a woman in hardcore burqa waiving a turkish flag with Atatürk on it... Nobody is killing each other like calm the **** down. I live in Canada currently (I am in Istanbul now for holiday). Believe me Turkey is one of the most cosmopolitan country you can see. There are people of all kinds. oh really http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/442480/jewish-istanbul-deputy-mayor-shot-in-the-head-after-assailant-storms-office.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, Unites said: 1. We still have to deal with undocumented immigrants and it hasn't solved anything at all. Turkey still wants visa-free travelling opportunities for its people. So, we get the same amount (of even more) Turkish people back in the end of the whole ride. Nobody wants that. 2. You're right about that, those things are crooked as hell. But it still isn't that bad as the current situation in Turkey, especially looking to the status of their democracy. 3. Humanitarian help is not always a case of pure goodwill, it is also a way of enlarging your influence in a specific territory. And a politician, who fires a lot of judges, because they don't fit in his big picture, doesn't know a lot about the trias politica. Even reintroducing the death pannel, to get your political enemies out of the way, is in no single way good, allowed and humanitarian. 4. The negotiations between the European Union and Turkey are still going on. The EU is too weak to cancel the whole accession process immediately, because they are are dependent on Turkey for that stupid refugee-deal, which they don't want to lose. The EU is a political body, which want to go on with conversations, to keep their current relationship and stable position in the whole field. 1- It solved a lot. Go search Frontex's data about the issue. Frontex is a legit organization in case you do not know it. And you get tourists, not immigrants at the end of the deal. Tourists with money. There are countries with worse economy and liberties than Turkey within visa free zone such as bulgaria. Don't blame Turkey for underqualified immigrants you got, obviously turkish immigrants of europe went to europe because they had nothing in Turkey, they were the bottom quarter of social economical pyramide. "Germaner"(Almancı) meaning a turk living in Germany is still used as a colloquial term for undereducated people in Turkey. Those immigrants are representatives of failed assimilation. 2- That is true. Although Gulen's sect had to be a big ally for Erdogan now Gulen went off the rail with coup attempt and Turkey purges all Gulen's supporters. Secularist officers will come back to those seats so I believe situation will improve. 3- Fired judges are related to a religious sect following CIA asset us based cleric Fethullah Gülen. Gülen is in exile because he ran away when he was charged as a threat to secular democracy !!! Do you want anti-secularists to stay in their seats ? What you say is equal to answering YES to this question. 4- Turkey will cancel it practically soon via legalizing capital punishment for perpetrators of failed coup. Reconciliation with Russia seems like a sign of Turkey's getting closer with Shanghai Pact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 20 minutes ago, Simon said: oh really http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/442480/jewish-istanbul-deputy-mayor-shot-in-the-head-after-assailant-storms-office.html Oh my god, please step up the logic game beyond elementary school. I am partially jewish too. I did not even know that he was jewish... Your logic is like: Who is shot ? A jewish guy.. ohhhhh, he must be shot because he is jewish... He was shot by some mafia related guys because of a dispute over a contract of municipality. Moreover, you try to give the image that he was a hated guy because he was jewish. He was not a target or whatsoever. Those are some muslims and atheists and **** paying their respect to a deceased fellow person who happened to be jewish... Interesting logic right ??? Please stop reading those jewish newspapers that portray the world in a contrast of us vs them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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