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LebaneseDude
5 minutes ago, Goosey said:

The problem is that all too often the people making the decisions are not well-versed. 

Individuals are not so homogeneous as to reach the same conclusions when given the same evidence. 

The point is that they are significantly more likely to understand context because it's their job.

Of course this is all in an ideal state. Many politicians abuse their power for their own agendas. Many leaders like Trump and Boris tell people what they want to hear even if they are lies and bullshit. It's very likely that they know it's bullshit. They just don't care. They exploit people.

Running on pessimism is not the way to do things. There must be faith in representatives to do their job. 

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bionic
Just now, RAMROD said:

Exactly, UK are having working economy compared to many countries in EU.

Like I said earlier in the thread, the worst that will happen is that the UK will end up being prosperous, but not as much as it could be inside the EU. It isn't suddenly going to drop to 3rd world country levels

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Morphine Prince

Nearly 940k lead. Wow. It will be up to a million once all votes are counted. 

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Goosey
Just now, LebaneseDude said:

Many leaders like Trump and Boris tell people what they want to hear even if they are lies and bullshit.

Of course many leaders spout nonsense and lies :toofunny: including Cameron, and Clinton (both of them)... et cetera.

"I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump
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LebaneseDude
1 minute ago, Goosey said:

Of course many leaders spout nonsense and lies :toofunny: including Cameron, and Clinton (both of them)... et cetera.

Nobody is immune to lying. People will always have motives in doing so.

Trying to paint them as all being the same is a gross misrepresentation though.

In the case of US politics, Clinton and Trump may both lie, but Clinton does it around 25% of the time while Trump does it 75% of the time. 

Spot the difference?

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socotra
2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Nobody is immune to lying. People will always have motives in doing so.

Trying to paint them as all being the same is a gross misrepresentation though.

In the case of US politics, Clinton and Trump may both lie, but Clinton does it around 25% of the time while Trump does it 75% of the time. 

Spot the difference?

Where would you put Bernie percentage-wise? (Don't want to derail the topic but just curious)

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estxkid
Just now, Luc said:

Also, this result means sanctions on Russia will be lifted in the upcoming months :saladga:

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LebaneseDude
3 minutes ago, Indyl said:

Where would you put Bernie percentage-wise? (Don't want to derail the topic but just curious)

Around the same as Clinton.

Politifact has him at 29% lies.

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Just now, universemiller said:

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The EU consisted 28 countries. The UK had a lot of power in the EU. The UK was the biggest proponent of sanctions, while many countries like Greece and Hungary want to lift the sanctions. Every individual member state has veto on this. The UK was the powerful country that made the EU have some cohesion, every country voted for a large part thanks to the UK. The future of the sanctions and the EU's relationship with Russia is at stake. 

Putin has already been anticipating this and acting all nice. Why else do you think he supported the UEFA sanctions :laughga: 

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LebaneseDude
Just now, bionic said:

So what happens to Scotland, Northern Ireland and London now? Do they leave?

:air: London

Scotland and Northern Ireland probably will.

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