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KARMA
Just now, YourSweet666 said:

 

it's honestly disgusting how you put all the blame on parents, without knowing the full story. There were "no swimming" signs ONLY and they weren't swimming. The family is from Nebraska and you can't expect all the tourists to know about dangerous waters in Florida.

I posted the link, check the other thread about the details.

 

I don't really care about the damn alligator, it killed a baby. 

 

 

and it's honestly disgusting how you value human life more than animal 

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lego
Just now, KARMA said:

and it's honestly disgusting how you value human life more than animal 

 

of course I do. You guys are so extreme, you'll cry over a reptile and you don't give a **** about dead child. 

 

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PartySick
10 minutes ago, unMANiCURED said:

Because the alligator was doing what it is genetically programed to do: kill food for it's survival. Disney was built around the body of water knowing alligators were present, rather than the alligators being placed in the water after Disney was built. They put up PLENTY of warning signs in multiple languages (with images too), clearly stating not to go in or near the water. The parents, having been near the water before, must've taken note of the signs-- making them aware of the dangerous animals in the water. They were not paying close enough attention to realize a 2-year-old near the DANGEROUS WATER is a bad idea. They are 100% to blame for their horrible parenting. Obviously it is a tragic situation, but the alligator can't be blamed for it's actions. It is unfortunate other alligators were killed while finding the body because they didn't do anything either.

Stuff like this happens all the time here. Well, similar things.

When I was younger, my dad had a job with the city relocating or removing alligators from residential areas. Rarely did these animals hurt anyone but they were almost always killed. I couldn't tell you how many times I've cried seeing their bodies stacked in the back of his truck. Our homes are built on the alligators' land but we regularly kill them if they find their way into our drainage ditches, swimming pools, etc so you can put money on it that the gator that drowned this kid will be killed. Why? Not sure...at this point, it's a mixture of revenge by proxy and an effort to prevent that same gator from attacking people in the future.

People need to learn to keep their distance from these animals and stop bulldozing their homes to build our own. Poor kid and poor gators.

Just now, YourSweet666 said:

The family is from Nebraska and you can't expect all the tourists to know about dangerous waters in Florida.

This really is something our tourist attractions need to make clearer. We have crazy wildlife here and there's never a guarantee of safety. People here just assume there's a predator or venomous animal nearby usually but some family from Nebraska wouldn't know that unless they were told. Instead of "No Swimming" signs, there should be more of those "Stay Away From Water's Edge" signs that I've been seeing around town lately.

Coupled with cute little silhouettes of gators. But I do have to disagree with...

3 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

I don't really care about the damn alligator, it killed a baby.

You can't fault a predator for being a predator. Fault the people who didn't take proper precautions to prevent these things from happening. Honestly, it is best to at least remove this one specific gator from the area but you can never forget that they're hunters. Usually ambush predators. You go by the water's edge and you're in their turf. If they see you as a possible prey item, they're going to go after you regardless of whether you're a deer, a rabbit, or a two year old child.

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I don't think we should blame the alligator for this. He's doing what he's naturally programmed to do. How can an alligator recognize not to attack something in the water because he belongs to a family and is a little boy?

From what I understand, this was a freak accident and the parents seemed to tried to prevent it by saving the boy but it was too late.

It's unfortunate :( 

 

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1 hour ago, Shipper said:

So he was dragged, and bitten but no limbs were missing? 

Is it normal for alligators to drag its prey and not eat it? 

If the body of the toddler is intact then he died by drowning?

So many questions. 

It appears that that would be the case - the victim died by drowning. Alligators don't like prey that they can't eat very easily, whether this means the prey is larger than the gator thought, or the prey fights back. It likely got deterred by the father attacking it and the attention it raised, but the child did not survive.

Stuff like this happens all the time here. Well, similar things.

This really is something our tourist attractions need to make clearer. We have crazy wildlife here and there's never a guarantee of safety. People here just assume there's a predator or venomous animal nearby usually but some family from Nebraska wouldn't know that unless they were told. Instead of "No Swimming" signs, there should be more of those "Stay Away From Water's Edge" signs that I've been seeing around town lately.

I did mention something to this effect in the other thread (the original news thread) - I was just raised knowing "no swimming" means "don't get near here", not "splash around and get in the water but don't physically swim." I thought that was just common sense. 

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lego
1 minute ago, PartySick said:

Fault the people who didn't take proper precautions to prevent these things from happening. 

 

usually the great animal lovers just put all the blame on "horrible parenting" and I don't think they have any idea what it means to be a parent. They weren't there when it happened and it can happen to anyone. 

 

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KARMA
6 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

of course I do. You guys are so extreme, you'll cry over a reptile and you don't give a **** about dead child. 

 

i do, its just the situation that differs our opinion

why kill the alligator? why not just move it somewhere else? 

what's done, its done. no need more killing 

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lego
2 minutes ago, KARMA said:

i do, its just the situation that differs our opinion

why kill the alligator? why not just move it somewhere else? 

what's done, its done. no need more killing 

 

@PartySick replied to that

 

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PartySick
1 minute ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

usually the great animal lovers just put all the blame on "horrible parenting" and I don't think they have any idea what it means to be a parent. They weren't there when it happened and it can happen to anyone. 

 

Oh yeah, it's definitely not the parents' fault from what I can tell. They had no way of preparing for something they were totally unaware of and now they're dealing with their son's death. They definitely don't need hundreds of strangers telling them that it's their fault. It was just an...unfortunate situation to say the least...

7 minutes ago, calmar said:

I did mention something to this effect in the other thread (the original news thread) - I was just raised knowing "no swimming" means "don't get near here", not "splash around and get in the water but don't physically swim." I thought that was just common sense. 

Mm hmm. The perks of growing up near swimming dinosaurs. You learn to fear water :air:

Or at least be totally cautious and aware around it if you decide to not avoid it entirely.

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21 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

it's honestly disgusting how you put all the blame on parents, without knowing the full story. There were "no swimming" signs ONLY and they weren't swimming. The family is from Nebraska and you can't expect all the tourists to know about dangerous waters in Florida.

I posted the link, check the other thread about the details.

 

I don't really care about the damn alligator, it killed a baby. 

 

 

It's honestly disgusting how you put all the blame on the alligator. Correct, an alligator killed a baby; however, an intelligent human would know to keep a child away from unknown water. You don't have to be from Nebraska to realize that putting a 2-year-old near unknown water isn't safe. 

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14 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

usually the great animal lovers just put all the blame on "horrible parenting" and I don't think they have any idea what it means to be a parent. They weren't there when it happened and it can happen to anyone. 

 

Are you insinuating it wasn't "horrible parenting." I'd hate to see what it mean's to be a bad parent in your eyes, if you consider a parent putting its toddler in an already dangerous situation (without any alligator) not bad parenting. 

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sarahb

I'm not an expert but I think I remember reading somewhere that crocodilians will sometimes hide prey somewhere, like under a log or something, and return to eat it later. 

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PartySick
5 minutes ago, unMANiCURED said:

It's honestly disgusting how you put all the blame on the alligator. Correct, an alligator killed a baby; however, an intelligent human would know to keep a child away from unknown water. You don't have to be from Nebraska to realize that putting a 2-year-old near unknown water isn't safe. 

As much as I sympathize with the gator and, putting my hand up here, as much as I usually value animal lives over human lives (yeah I said it :grr:), the parents really can't be blamed in this case. They had no way of knowing that a giant reptile would snatch up their kid in a theme park's resort :S

This was both a predator doing what it knows to do when prey is near and a lesson to Disney to make it even more clear to not only no go in the water, don't go near the water at all and NEVER FEED WILD ANIMALS. I know that's not the issue here but that's how these animals get so cozy with people in the first place. Unfortunately, this gator might've learned to see humans as more than as source of food, seeing them as actual prey and that's no good for both tourists and other gators in the area...another kid getting attacked is a risk no one can afford...

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lego
Just now, unMANiCURED said:

It's honestly disgusting how you put all the blame on the alligator. Correct, an alligator killed a baby; however, an intelligent human would know to keep a child away from unknown water. You don't have to be from Nebraska to realize that putting a 2-year-old near unknown water isn't safe. 

 

 

Wouldn't intelligent human being sympathize with other human beings who just lost their child instead of talking **** about them and their parenting, without knowing anything about it, and worrying more about what happens to predator. As you can see from above, they are killed all the time, even when they didn't harm anyone.

 

 

Just now, unMANiCURED said:

Are you insinuating it wasn't "horrible parenting." I'd hate to see what it mean's to be a bad parent in your eyes, if you consider a parent putting its toddler in an already dangerous situation (without any alligator) not bad parenting. 

 

 

Do you have any children? Did you not understand that father was right there with him and there was only "no swimming" sign? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Woolfsmck
1 hour ago, Shipper said:

So he was dragged, and bitten but no limbs were missing? 

Is it normal for alligators to drag its prey and not eat it? 

If the body of the toddler is intact then he died by drowning?

So many questions. 

Generally, Gators swallow their prey whole , or drag it to the bottom of the water and flip it up side down to drown it before trying to eat it... Most likely the gator got scared away before it could come back and try to eat the body after the boy had been drowned.

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