"Gaga is not necessarly what I am"

[WORLDofGAGA 2,274]

When you watch the whole interview it does make sense, quoting those few lines makes it sound messy :|

[Didymus 34,379]

It makes sense, and we've always known this. But it's still underwhelming for me. Like, yes, you kept us guessing because you identified so strongly with your character, but now you don't.. so what are you doing? lol

This is just my personal opinion, but I preferred her heavy persona act from 2008 to 2009 (I feel like it dropped in 2010) because, even though we all knew she was acting, she drew us in anyway and made us believe the lie, while also pushing us to look at her words and actions analytically, wondering what she's trying to say, what comments she's trying to make about fame, about culture, about art.

This might sound harsh but I'd rather she just completely shut up inbetween era's/projects instead of presenting herself to the media as this normal chick. I don't care about that normal chick, and I find it pretty disheartening to find that for years now she's been acting like we should.

[Sunday 2,178]

14 hours ago, Bellatrix said:

I see no need to meltdown here

This. 

I swear this fanbase meltdown over almost everything these days.

 

[fede ARTPOP 6,737]

Is clear that she created Gaga to go against her insecurites and fears, but is her soul inside the character she loves and lives, shes an artist, person and soul.

[Kayla 7,595]

15 hours ago, Didymus said:

It makes sense, and we've always known this. But it's still underwhelming for me. Like, yes, you kept us guessing because you identified so strongly with your character, but now you don't.. so what are you doing? lol

This is just my personal opinion, but I preferred her heavy persona act from 2008 to 2009 (I feel like it dropped in 2010) because, even though we all knew she was acting, she drew us in anyway and made us believe the lie, while also pushing us to look at her words and actions analytically, wondering what she's trying to say, what comments she's trying to make about fame, about culture, about art.

This might sound harsh but I'd rather she just completely shut up inbetween era's/projects instead of presenting herself to the media as this normal chick. I don't care about that normal chick, and I find it pretty disheartening to find that for years now she's been acting like we should.

I care about the normal chick and I appreciate that she's trying to get people to see artists as people- they deal with too much ****. But I agree with all your other points. 

[Didymus 34,379]

9 hours ago, Kayla said:

I care about the normal chick and I appreciate that she's trying to get people to see artists as people- they deal with too much ****.

I just wonder why.. I mean, what a contrast with her early days when she implied that fame was pretty fabulous and it was easy to protect her privacy, and she knew what to read and what to ignore etc.

And I get that people then say: "She grew up! She understood the consequences of fame!" but I don't really get that. Surely she should've understood them before 2013. It was almost like she was actively trying to pick out stuff media had said about her (the fat thing, the Roar vs. Applause thing, the Madonna copying etc.) to make a statement, but not really one that was a reflection of her personal life.

Because, if we take her 2014-15 comments seriously, it was actually her label that was tormenting her, forcing her to submit to the wants of the public, and driving her into a lack of physical and mental health, and a downgrading of her creativity. This was all apparently clear to her from 2011 onwards, so then why did she pretend Interscope was supporting her but the media wasn't? That's what makes me think it's more complicated than "she grew up and realizes that fame is a bitch". She made a perfume about how fame has a dark soul and corrupts the mind, I think we'd gathered that.

I dunno.. maybe it's just me overanalyzing again. I just feel like there's more to it. That it's a career strategy. Which I wouldn't mind btw. But I'd just like to know what it is.

[JackTheTripper 866]

 She spends so much time explaining herself, and everything she does , and everyting she is , that in the end it doesnt mean anything , it comes of as pretentious mambo jumbo that not even her believesanymore...... I am cnfident that if she wouldnt explain eveyrthing se does, and just let her work speaks for itself, she would be appreciated more...Also if she would stop taking herslef so serious, than other people would take her  more serious

[Jenniferella 2,774]

45 minutes ago, Didymus said:

I just wonder why.. I mean, what a contrast between her early days when she implied that fame was pretty fabulous and it was easy to protect her privacy, and she knew what to read and what to ignore etc.

And I get that people then say: "She grew up! She understood the consequences of fame!" but I don't really get that. Surely she should've understood them before 2013. It was almost like she was actively trying to pick out stuff media had said about her (the fat thing, the Roar vs. Applause thing, the Madonna copying etc.) to make a statement, but not really one that was a reflection of her personal life.

Because, if we take her 2014-15 comments seriously, it was actually her label that was tormenting her, forcing her to submit to the wants of the public, and driving her into a lack of physical and mental health, and a downgrading of her creativity. This was all apparently clear to her from 2011 onwards, so then why did she pretend Interscope was supporting her but the media wasn't? That's what makes me think it's more complicated than "she grew up and realizes that fame is a bitch". She made a perfume about how fame has a dark soul and corrupts the mind, I think we'd gathered that.

I dunno.. maybe it's just me overanalyzing again. I just feel like there's more to it. That it's a career strategy. Which I wouldn't mind btw. But I'd just like to know what it is.

Imo, she began to belittle fame when she began to "fade" (=when she no longer was the it girl). I can 100% guarentee you that she would never had acted like that if she didn't get so much criticism for BTW and AP. The way I see it : Gaga likes her status when she's succesful and praised, and she hates it when she gets criticism. And yes, she tends to overanalyse everything she does as if people cared. I'll say it once again : she should let her work speak for herself and stop taking herself so seriously

[Nono 3,576]

5 minutes ago, DevilHeart said:

Imo, she began to belittle fame when she began to "fade" (=when she no longer was the it girl). I can 100% guarentee you that she would never had acted like that if she didn't get so much criticism for BTW and AP. The way I see it : Gaga likes her status when she's succesful and praised, and she hates it when she gets criticism. And yes, she tends to overanalyse everything she does as if people cared. I'll say it once again : she should let her work speak for herself and stop taking herself so seriously

This, I liked when music was catchy simple and easy and music videos and perfomances were serious. Nowdays she is taking herself too seriously, trying to change the world, the fame culture instead of focusing on what she did the best and that is Music.

[giskardsb 12,565]

3 hours ago, Didymus said:

I just wonder why.. I mean, what a contrast with her early days when she implied that fame was pretty fabulous and it was easy to protect her privacy, and she knew what to read and what to ignore etc.

well, sometime you think  you have a strategy, and maybe it works for a while, or you tell yourself that it's working, but it doesn't work as well as you'd hoped.    Concrete is pretty strong stuff, but eventually water erodes it.  Sometimes stuff working on you for a long enough time is enough to break any defenses.

 

[Kayla 7,595]

14 hours ago, Didymus said:

I just wonder why.. I mean, what a contrast with her early days when she implied that fame was pretty fabulous and it was easy to protect her privacy, and she knew what to read and what to ignore etc.

And I get that people then say: "She grew up! She understood the consequences of fame!" but I don't really get that. Surely she should've understood them before 2013. It was almost like she was actively trying to pick out stuff media had said about her (the fat thing, the Roar vs. Applause thing, the Madonna copying etc.) to make a statement, but not really one that was a reflection of her personal life.

Because, if we take her 2014-15 comments seriously, it was actually her label that was tormenting her, forcing her to submit to the wants of the public, and driving her into a lack of physical and mental health, and a downgrading of her creativity. This was all apparently clear to her from 2011 onwards, so then why did she pretend Interscope was supporting her but the media wasn't? That's what makes me think it's more complicated than "she grew up and realizes that fame is a bitch". She made a perfume about how fame has a dark soul and corrupts the mind, I think we'd gathered that.

I dunno.. maybe it's just me overanalyzing again. I just feel like there's more to it. That it's a career strategy. Which I wouldn't mind btw. But I'd just like to know what it is.

I think it could be a career strategy, but I also think it's her genuine self saying these things. I mean, yes- she did talk about how it was easy to protect her privacy, but the fact is that she has had to go through lengths to do so for years. It's gotta get tiring eventually. 

I also think that years ago she was so busy that her new lifestyle didn't really hit her until she actually stopped to take it all in. Some things are hard to notice when you're in the moment.

And I mean, look at the fanbase. Years ago we were so quick to analyze intelligently, the groups waiting to meet her were smaller and treated her more like a human, and when people gave her criticism in the media it was for things she was instigating criticism for- she purposely was a hot topic, someone who cause controversy. 

Then more recently, the criticism she gets is for things she's legitimately trying to use for good purposes, for her body, and her fans are less likely to think creatively about her work or treat her like more than a selfie opportunity when they meet her. I feel she used to be able to relate to us, now she feels deified by us and is bothered that instead of us finding inspiration, we're finding dependency.