Stefani honey, you’re doing it wrong, just saying

[Didymus 34,379]

22 minutes ago, andy232000 said:

also, you cut this out from the third "cheesy line" 

"the success of them helped erode my feelings of insecurity around how cheesy they were."

she did not want to cross over to pop because she felt she was going to loose her credibility and was not sure it would work. thats why she didn´t want to release those songs, but after they became hits she said the latter

Well, I just copied it from an article that didn't mention that part lol

In any case, much of my original post still stands. I don't get how her music gets that much attention when she has explicitly admitted she didn't even want to be an artist post-We Are Born. She wanted to be a songwriter, and just released FoF to end her contract (how much fun she had making it for that purpose doesn't sway me).

And after that, just because she scored commercially, she'll slap another album together from songs she doesn't truly consider her own from an artistic standpoint? What the **** is that? She signed a contract in 2013 which stated that she didn't have to tour or promote her new music because "she didn't want to become famous", and she does it anyway for commercial gain (the only reason I can think of). Zero artistic credibility she has. And now after the album she released to get out of her solo career, she's releasing another one with artist rejects. Why on earth would you want Gaga to be like her? This "mystery" thing is just a scam act to make more money while she gets to come off like a genuine artist, which she is not.

[Mikey Monster 1,561]

No offense but calm down. Gaga is gonna do her thing no matter what she's an artist and she's not gonna be limited to one thing just cuz some fans want her to. IK u want new music we all do but I'd like to see anybody else do the stuff Gaga has done through all the bullshit she gets all the time. If people don't like it they can leave the Fanbase and she will still do her thing and be completely fine. No hate I'm just saying ❤️❤️❤️

[kabirartfling 9,063]

I am ashamed to ask but whats an OP? Opinion?

[RAMROD 109,570]

If it is so effective, you must have been a superstar now with these things you've told her to do

 

[RAMROD 109,570]

2 minutes ago, kabirartfling said:

I am ashamed to ask but whats an OP? Opinion?

Original Poster, the person who started a thread.

[Alien Tulip 12,428]

Then join a Sia forum. Sia's songs all sound the same to me. Her work is not my taste at all. I may not agree with every decision Gaga makes but at least she's doing something different in her career and switching it up. I rather Gaga change than be repetitive.

[SlayGagaloo 16,152]

1 hour ago, Didymus said:

There's not even a persona tho She's literally just acting like any other regular person while hiding half her face. That's it. Doesn't even really qualify as an "idea" to me. It would be different if she didn't do interviews or whatever, but we've all seen her without the damn wig in the past, who cares now. Can't compare at all to what Gaga was doing for example in 2008/09.

Something else I don't appreciate about Sia: she doesn't even like her own music. For 1000FoF she said she just threw some songs together to end her contract, for TIA she said she only liked two or three tracks because she didn't write them for someone else, then dryly commenting that she thinks the stuff she writes for other pop stars is whack. Why anyone would still give her (music) the time of day after that is beyond me.

Gaga used to write for PCD, Britney and others.it looks like Being a songwriter is determined by their ability to write catchy hit songs, they don't have to be meaningful, they don't necessarily need to love what they write. Sia's previous work is definitely better, but they are definitely not a commercial success. 

I believe that SIA was shook after Diamonds success, although she wrote it in like ten minutes, the lyrics are really beautiful. She thought she deserved to be in the spotlight. 

For example, I can't imagine Gaga singing summerboy or Eh , Eh... But the Fame was her ticket to become a star. 

Sia is smart, on the day of her album release (if I remember correctly)  she was performing reaper on GMA 

She said that "now that I have money" (which is sad since she's been making music forever, before chandelier) i can experiment more", so this is acting songs are other stars rejects (Adele, Katy, Riri, Shakira...). Look at cheap thrills, it's smashing (not in the US though) but anyway she kinda proved her point, she writes good hits, she doesn't need the big names to have her song smash. I think they won't take songs from her now that she's a big name herself. 

Sadly, everything looks related to commercial success... She got FOUR Grammy nomse for FoF, but they probably didn’t know she existed before chandelier. 

I don't think I am her biggest fan, but I like her, and what she achieved is really admirable.  

[andy232000 11,474]

33 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Well, I just copied it from an article that didn't mention that part lol

In any case, much of my original post still stands. I don't get how her music gets that much attention when she has explicitly admitted she didn't even want to be an artist post-We Are Born. She wanted to be a songwriter, and just released FoF to end her contract (how much fun she had making it for that purpose doesn't sway me).

And after that, just because she scored commercially, she'll slap another album together from songs she doesn't truly consider her own from an artistic standpoint? What the **** is that? She signed a contract in 2013 which stated that she didn't have to tour or promote her new music because "she didn't want to become famous", and she does it anyway for commercial gain (the only reason I can think of). Zero artistic credibility she has. And now after the album she released to get out of her solo career, she's releasing another one with artist rejects. Why on earth would you want Gaga to be like her? This "mystery" thing is just a scam act to make more money while she gets to come off like a genuine artist, which she is not.

i dont want gaga to be like her though  i agree on that that sia should be sia and gaga gaga

[crisTEAne 21,059]

28 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Well, I just copied it from an article that didn't mention that part lol

In any case, much of my original post still stands. I don't get how her music gets that much attention when she has explicitly admitted she didn't even want to be an artist post-We Are Born. She wanted to be a songwriter, and just released FoF to end her contract (how much fun she had making it for that purpose doesn't sway me).

And after that, just because she scored commercially, she'll slap another album together from songs she doesn't truly consider her own from an artistic standpoint? What the **** is that? She signed a contract in 2013 which stated that she didn't have to tour or promote her new music because "she didn't want to become famous", and she does it anyway for commercial gain (the only reason I can think of). Zero artistic credibility she has. And now after the album she released to get out of her solo career, she's releasing another one with artist rejects. Why on earth would you want Gaga to be like her? This "mystery" thing is just a scam act to make more money while she gets to come off like a genuine artist, which she is not.

have you listened to sia's howard stern interview? or any sia interview for that matter? what you're saying is bullshit.

she has more than enough money; she's like one of the richest people in australia. she said that she needs to create music for her own mental health and for her genuine love for music. as for her wig-acting: she explicitly said that she's only doing it to see how far she can go, to **** with people's heads, to see what she can get away with. 

if you want to drag her, listen to that interview first.

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1 hour ago, Bonkers said:

You could probably get a pretty serious prescription just by letting a doctor read your post.

 

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no offense

 

he/she should

[Didymus 34,379]

7 minutes ago, skeleton.gun said:

as for her wig-acting: she explicitly said that she's only doing it to see how far she can go, to **** with people's heads, to see what she can get away with. 

That's exactly what I responded to before this convo expanded tho lol. She isn't ****ing with anyone's head anymore and it's not even a clever idea since everyone with half a brain can look her face up on Google + she's not even acting like a persona, so the "Sia will keep people guessing" argument on the previous page was just stupid to me. She doesn't have anyone guessing in the first place.

I know Sia very well, pre-FoF I was a huge fan. I just felt slapped in the face when she first of all not only announced to end her solo career, but then went back on what she said to release some more tracks under her own name for no good reasons, i.e. to end her contract (FoF) and just "for fun" (TIA), admitting explicitly that the songs don't reflect her own identity as a person or an artist. I don't appreciate that, esp. when we then have to swallow her "I don't want to be famous" shtick. If you don't want that, easy, then stop ****ing promoting yourself.

[sipthistea 21,099]

You sound so bitter.

Why blaming an artist for her decisions? Would you make it better or what?

[Iluvartpop 411]

I think she doesn't really need to "do it right or wrong" - after all she told us a million times she worked hard and didn't believe she would be this successful... On other occasions though I must agree she seems confident in her mastery of fame. 

But what really matters is that she is living her dream, putting out her music and we fans appreciating (or criticizing) her work. She's already made it to the top once, so she does have sufficient money to do whatever she wants for now, so let's just see her play it all out! 

Spoiler

But yes she made some bad decisions in the past which were much worse than other pop girls.  But she can do whatever she want I guess, I mean she earned it after all 

 

[crisTEAne 21,059]

4 minutes ago, Didymus said:

That's exactly what I responded to before this convo expanded tho lol. She isn't ****ing with anyone's head anymore and it's not even a clever idea since everyone with half a brain can look her face up on Google + she's not even acting like a persona, so the "Sia will keep people guessing" argument on the previous page was just stupid to me. She doesn't have anyone guessing in the first place.

well, it seems people are still interested; i know i am. but then again, you think i don't have a brain, so. 

4 minutes ago, Didymus said:

I know Sia very well, pre-FoF I was a huge fan.

 

7 minutes ago, Didymus said:

admitting explicitly that the songs don't reflect her own identity as a person or an artist

where did she say that? i need context.

as the other member pointed out, she loves her songs. she gives them away, sometimes with specific instructions not to change certain things about them, gets upset when a song was altered without her approval, and even regrets giving songs away, so sometimes she wants them back. 

13 minutes ago, Didymus said:

I don't appreciate that, esp. when we then have to swallow her "I don't want to be famous" shtick. If you don't want that, easy, then stop ****ing promoting yourself.

i don't know the answer to that. maybe she wants to share her artistry but doesn't want the glamour that comes with it? i don't think making artistic decisions is that easy, that black-and-white. especially since it's her own mental health that's on the line. i really don't know. 

[Didymus 34,379]

1 minute ago, skeleton.gun said:

well, it seems people are still interested; i know i am. but then again, you think i don't have a brain, so. 

That's not what I said. Stop doing that.

2 minutes ago, skeleton.gun said:

where did she say that? i need context.

Again:

"I'm calling it This Is Acting because they are songs I was writing for other people, so I didn't go in thinking 'this is something I would say'. It's more like play-acting. It's fun."

Perfect illustration is Alive which was written entirely from Adele's perspective and wasn't changed for Sia's album.

About FoF: "Basically, I put this out to get out of my publishing deal."

6 minutes ago, skeleton.gun said:

i don't think making artistic decisions is that easy, that black-and-white. especially since it's her own mental health that's on the line. i really don't know. 

Agreed. All I know is she's contradicting herself in a major way, not sticking to her guns (which are supposed to be the prime reason we are to regard her as a genuine artist opposed to the pop girls who can't write a song to save their lives) and that's annoying to me. If you're gonna release more music under your own name (which you claimed not to want to do) then make it special. Not just another album 'cause why not. Either be an artist or don't be. Just my take on it.