lego 44,165 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, Juvelius said: *I miss your brain The way you think But I don't miss The way you used to drink ..... from song Best Friend(2012) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1193491/Guy-Ritchies-alcohol-fuelled-night-glamorous-blondes-ends-police-encounter.html get a reality check dear lmao You need reality check if you think few lyrics and and article gives you complete insight into their private family life. You claim their son has no rules, as if you live with them. Delusion. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,398 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Let us remain calm while discussing this topic, please. 🖤“Thoughts are the shadows of our feelings -- always darker, emptier and simpler.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juvelius 375 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 minute ago, VampireHeart said: lmao You need reality check if you think few lyrics and and article gives you complete insight into their private family life. You claim their son has no rules, as if you live with them. Delusion. Rocco wil return on his own or with legal force to his mom. It is just a matter of time...Legaly now according to international law he is considered abducted by his father. When the hearing comes to US court again in june the things will resolve for sure. I wont continue this dispute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVDALIZA 1,274 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 @VampireHeart It's funny how you continuously repeat to emphasize on the fact that we don't know anything about their personal lives yet at same time you still make vague assumptions about their personal problems. I don't think that stability is the problem here, the tour is basically finished. And she won't tour again until at least 2020. Madonna has houses in NYC, LA & London. Her main residence is NYC, which ironically is where most of Rocco's friends are. The only thinig we know is that Rocco has not been attending school and missing education ever since he joined Ritchie again (Guy supporting the idea that kids shouldn't go to school might be linked here, he might be encouraging Rocco to leave school) - which concerns Madonna deeply. And also he had been caught smoking several times in London for the very first time. operating from another world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahYuko 1,002 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I dislike Madonna's attitude towards Gaga, but I genuinely feel bad for her. I hope she picks herself up and gets her act together. Her kids are more important than her career at this point. She has done more than enough, she and her family deserve a break. I hope she doesn't sink even lower than this. I can't imagine how it must feel to be (pretty much) rejected by your own son. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 oh God, how many of you are gonna quote/mention me. I never claimed anything for a fact, unlike others who seem to pretend they live with them or who take everything Madonna says as a holy letter. I do remember her obsession with Kabbalah, stories how he was circumcized because of it/her, him quitting Kabbalah and I can imagine her being pretty pissed about it. She doesn't seem to be saint either or an absolutist, so... All I said was, there are two sides of every story. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 this is sad ps: that outfit reminded me of this one in the girlie show tour My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveandMagic 1,731 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 2 hours ago, VampireHeart said: Well she's also often with a lot younger men... how does that make him feel? This is true. I wonder if it's a tit-for-tat situation? Just repeat to yourself, "It's just a show. I should really just relax." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveandMagic 1,731 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Sorry, double post. My internet connection really sucks right now. Just repeat to yourself, "It's just a show. I should really just relax." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomingfree77 244 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 3 hours ago, PopBitch said: This is funny. Do people even know what she did? She put on a special side show for fans for free if you were one of the lucky ones to get a ticket and she made it so that no scalpers could get the tickets, just the fans that were issued the tickets. It's called Tears of a Clown. It's an avant garde show with Madonna as a clown. She sung mostly deep tracks she never performs off of American Life, Music, etc, did the cover of Tears of a Clown. She sat and talked to the fans opening up,talking about her father, etc., and, yes, had a drink on stage. She told jokes. It was performance art at its most intimate with her coming out as a clown on a tricycle but showing her fans her most vulnerable side, channeling her pain. All of the fans absolutely raved about the concert after and felt so privileged to be able to see it. If Gaga did this as a side show during her regular tour she would be raved about on here as groundbreaking. It was an experimental. personal show for free in an intimate theatre that 1,500 fans got to see for free. She called it a work in progress and to consider it as if they were watching a rehearsal. She is hurting and incorporated that into her show, but this Tears of a Clown show was deliberate and something she had thought about and had been working on in her mind to execute. She chose it as a gift to do first in Australia for the fans since she hadn't been there in so long. The rag mags are taking photos of this and using it to turn it into Madge is drunk and falling apart. You can look elsewhere and see the truth of what the concert was and even a great review of it, plus what her fans there tweeted. It sounds like she plans to do it again? Can you imagine your fave offering free tickets to fans only at an intimate 1500 capacity theatre for an experimental avant garde show while in the middle of their regular tour? It sounds exciting to me and the chance of a lifetime to see an icon doing something so different artistically even at this age, when the Rebel Heart Tour was exciting enough.. Who said.."No good deed goes unpunished" ?.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Australian pop critic/fan reviews Tears of a Clown show and the effect it had on fans in Australia who hadn't seen her live in 23 years , since the Girlie Show, and never in this intimate of a setting.. "Celebrating her long-overdue return to Australia after a 23-year absence, Madonna treated fans to an intimate show billed as Tears of a Clown at the Forum Theatre. RICHARD S HE was among the fans who witnessed the (very late) night of performance art, comedy, story telling and music. Only hours before her hyper-exclusive fan show’s scheduled to start, Madonna put this up on Instagram – “I am presently experiencing life at a rate of several WTF’s per hour”. It’s good to know that one of the most famous women in the world still gets nervous. The doors opened around midnight, three and a half hours late. A handful of fans had been camping out since the morning of the day before. It didn’t matter. Like those elusive Prince afterparties, the later the show starts, the more rewarding it is. Tonight, we’re all impressionable teenagers again, rediscovering feminism and queerness and sexuality and the sheer liberating joy of pop music. From top to bottom, Tears of a Clown is surreal. It’s hard to process the fact that Madonna’s finally back in Australia, 23 years after The Girlie Show. It’s bizarre, seeing her in the flesh. It’s hilarious, seeing her ride onstage on a miniature girl’s bike, clad in head-to-toe pink top hat, wig, and clown makeup. But as she opens with a trip-hop version of ‘Send in the Clowns’, we’ve never taken her more seriously. Later, she flashes us and throws peanuts at the front row, and hey, we came for that too. It’s been over a decade since we last saw Madonna in confessional singer-songwriter mode. Tonight, she’s still a feminist/queer icon, but the larger-than-life popstar Madonna’s on the shelf. She plays mostly album cuts from Ray of Light, Music, and most surprisingly,American Life – a deeply personal album largely ignored by radio, but beloved by fans. She even covers Elliott Smith’s ‘Between the Bars’, and it sure as hell isn’t for indie cred. Tonight’s all about storytelling and, fronting a six-piece band, her voice and lyrics are out front. Madonna’s always been a deeply underrated vocalist; she instinctively knows how to mold her voice to a song’s arrangement, emotion, words. Whether it’s over acoustic guitars or electronic backings, complete with live auto-tune, she’s in fine form. Tears of a Clown is really a cabaret, as much about her banter as her songs. Madonna rarely gets credit for her perfectly dry comic timing, but it’s on full display tonight. She flits between telling crass jokes – “What do you call the piece of skin at the end of a penis? A man!” – and telling offbeat, moving stories. She talks about her father, who’s living his dream, devoted to tending his vineyard well into his eighties. She recounts visiting her then-husband Sean Penn – “you know he’s a badass!” – in a maximum-security prison. Sean’s cell is next to Richard Ramirez, the infamous “Night Stalker” serial killer – and he has a line of young female groupies. Meanwhile, the most talked-about celebrity couple of the ‘80s is just… there, alone. She still doesn’t know what to make of it. Midway through the show, Madonna confesses what we’ve all been thinking, and dedicates ‘Intervention’ to her estranged teenage son Rocco. “There is no love stronger than a mother for her son”; Tears of a Clown really only exists for this moment. Madonna finds catharsis by singing her very saddest songs. And she finds redemption by playing them to 1500 of her most devoted, neglected fans. That’s unconditional love. By ‘Joan of Arc’, maybe the best song off last year’s Rebel Heart, Madonna’s come to terms with her own limitations. “Fame is a form of misunderstanding”, she says, but she realises she has everything else to live for. Only then can she finally pull out the hits. ‘Don’t Tell Me’ gets the first big singalong of the night. People remember that single for its kitschy cowboy-Americana video, an early predecessor to Kanye’s uncanny ‘Bound 2’. Fewer remember it for its poetic, existential lyrics. Tonight, it’s commiseration and celebration. Madonna’s reputation as some ice-queen businesswoman couldn’t be further from the truth. She’s always been an artist first and foremost. What she’s doing tonight could melt even the hardest cynic. Tears of a Clown is about comedy, about the unexpected. It’s about laughing through our tears. This Madonna’s more vulnerable because she’s dressed in a ridiculous clown costume. “People always ask me – why do you keep making records? Going on tour? Haven’t you done everything?… There’s no time limit on creation. When Pablo Picasso was painting, did they tell him to stop?” Madonna’s notorious, and beloved, for never looking back. Virtually all her musical peers are nostalgia acts, but she reinvents herself for every tour, every album. Tonight, she revisits a handful of mostly 13, 15-year-old songs – around the age of her son – and rediscovers the soul they always had. Tonight’s intimate affair only deepens the giant arena tour we’ll see in a few days’ time. Just before 3 a.m., Madonna finally closes with ‘Take a Bow’, and a ukulele encore of ‘Holiday’. Everyone’s exhausted, but it feels like she could go on forever. Maybe in another 23 years?" . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 42,622 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 hour ago, VampireHeart said: You don't live with him/them, you have no way of knowing if he has no rules. And having teachers on tour is not the only thing, he probably needs stability, his friends, relatives, girlfriend? Maybe he wants to be ordinary teenager. He travelled the world with her, it gets tiring/boring/lonely after some time. A few of his friends actually did go on tour with them. One of them (that I know of) is still working/travelling on the tour. I don't blame him from wanting some space though. Even if you're surrounded by everything you want, constant travelling to places where you can't really settle is mentally exhausting. buy bionic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 hour ago, VampireHeart said: oh God, how many of you are gonna quote/mention me. I never claimed anything for a fact, unlike others who seem to pretend they live with them or who take everything Madonna says as a holy letter. I do remember her obsession with Kabbalah, stories how he was circumcized because of it/her, him quitting Kabbalah and I can imagine her being pretty pissed about it. She doesn't seem to be saint either or an absolutist, so... All I said was, there are two sides of every story. Who quit Kabbalah? Guy? He's still into Kabbalah. His new wife started studying Hebrew because of Guy. They are going to do a documentary on Kabbalah. So either household, Kabbalah is studied, if you are saying Rocco isn't into it. He was only touring with mom one semester and was supposed to start back with his regular school in NYC in January while she finished up the tour. So it's not just about the tour. He is a teenager and balking at authority. He wants to spend time with his dad, and his dad doesn't really believe in school or discipline. So he is rebelling and likes that his dad is more lax.Teenagers go through lots of difficulties with the authoritarian parent. or even easy-going parents. It's normal. It's normal Madonna would be sad that he wants to live in England, far away from her, especially since she and Guy aren't on the same page about education. He dropped out of school at the age of 15. It's normal for Rocco to want to live with his dad for a change. It's part of growing up in a family where divorce is involved. They will all work it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Juvelius said: well he is happy but is like saying to a brat you can do whatever you want without rules or you should live with some rules beforing becoming an adult, and if you think education shouldn t be necessery you are a dangerous person. He has teachers with him even on tour. He is at the age where he wants to be around people his own age. He is also at the age where a boy wants to be around his dad more. Being on tour isn't the stable environment he is looking for at this time in his life. He's old enough to make this choice for himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, PopBitch said: Who quit Kabbalah? Guy? He's still into Kabbalah. His new wife started studying Hebrew because of Guy. They are going to do a documentary on Kabbalah. So either household, Kabbalah is studied, if you are saying Rocco isn't into it. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/madonna-hires-mccartneys_n_109341.html http://m.insidetoronto.com/whatson-story/6388346-madonna-stops-guy-ritchie-s-kabbalah-documentary FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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