Protestors to Host Anti-Beyonce Rally at NFL Headquarters

[Babel 41,495]

This is getting out of control. 

Beyonce ha Born This Way era. 

[VOLANTIS 16,413]

This sounds exactly like those youtube videos about Illuminati and Satanic Symbolism in Pop culture.

"Lady Gaga sang the national anthem in a Red outfit. Red is associated with Satan. Gaga is Satan. Lets Riot!" 

"Coldplay was trying to show everyone a good time. Only God can should make you feel good. Chris Martin is claiming to be God. Riot!""

 

 

 

 

[What About Us 1,499]

5 minutes ago, VOLANTIS said:

This sounds exactly like those youtube videos about Illuminati and Satanic Symbolism in Pop culture.

"Lady Gaga sang the national anthem in a Red outfit. Red is associated with Satan. Gaga is Satan. Lets Riot!" 

"Coldplay was trying to show everyone a good time. Only God can should make you feel good. Chris Martin is claiming to be God. Riot!""

 

 

 

 

Oh my god. I see a lot of those videos especially by that Mark Dice guy. He overanalyzes too much. ._.

[MJHolland 12,725]

54 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

But I thought you people don't care about what is offensive and PC and it's all about free speech?

I guess you have a point, but this goes beyond violating PC speech and I think you know that.

The Black Panthers were a racial hate group and terror organization. Beyonce throwing her support behind them is distasteful no matter which was you spin it.

 

[lego 44,165]

13 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

I guess you have a point, but this goes beyond violating PC speech and I think you know that.

The Black Panthers were a racial hate group and terror organization. Beyonce throwing her support behind them is distasteful no matter which was you spin it.

 

 

I don't really trust you as a source about them. You're painting Malcom X as some villain, but you know very well that he left NOI ideology and he was not a racist. 

Are her dancers not allowed to have afros and berets only because a party from 60s wore something similar? Her lyrics are pretty much clear, she's proud of "baby hair, afro, negro nose with jackson 5 nostrills", their style is in accordance with lyrics.

I don't know how it goes beyond, you still have KKK rallies in America and it's allowed because it's free speech. And you wouldn't call them terror organization, I've seen people here defending them.

There are some double standards here. 

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2 hours ago, VampireHeart said:

 

But I thought you people don't care about what is offensive and PC and it's all about free speech?

Free speech is a valuable and important right. However, Free speech in a private domain or corporation is going to have guidelines. 

Free speech doesn't mean freedom from criticism or consequences. It means that the government isn't going to arrest you or execute you for your speech. 

You are confusing free speech in the private sector with the right to free speech protected by the government. Two different things. 

[Whispering 18,865]

1 hour ago, VampireHeart said:

 

I don't really trust you as a source about them. You're painting Malcom X as some villain, but you know very well that he left NOI ideology and he was not a racist. 

Are her dancers not allowed to have afros and berets only because a party from 60s wore something similar? Her lyrics are pretty much clear, she's proud of "baby hair, afro, negro nose with jackson 5 nostrills", their style is in accordance with lyrics.

I don't know how it goes beyond, you still have KKK rallies in America and it's allowed because it's free speech. And you wouldn't call them terror organization, I've seen people here defending them.

There are some double standards here. 

If a KKK endorsing performance was held on the field at the Super Bowl halftime show, there would be hell to pay! The KKK is free to peacefully demonstrate in certain places, at certain times, but if the NFL let a performer endorse their movement at halftime, there would be riots in the streets right now! The President would be speaking on it. The NFL commissioner would be fired and millions of dollars of fines would be levied against the NFL. My guess is that the half time show woukd be suspended for at least 3 to 5 years. 

There are some double standards here, but they are the opposite of what you are thinking is true. 

[MJHolland 12,725]

1 hour ago, VampireHeart said:

 

I don't really trust you as a source about them. You're painting Malcom X as some villain, but you know very well that he left NOI ideology and he was not a racist. 

Are her dancers not allowed to have afros and berets only because a party from 60s wore something similar? Her lyrics are pretty much clear, she's proud of "baby hair, afro, negro nose with jackson 5 nostrills", their style is in accordance with lyrics.

I don't know how it goes beyond, you still have KKK rallies in America and it's allowed because it's free speech. And you wouldn't call them terror organization, I've seen people here defending them.

There are some double standards here. 

Look them up yourself, Wikipedia is free after all. If you get one paragraph in, you'll learn that both Malcolm X and the Black Panthers were against the civil rights movement and Act and they both though African was the superior race to every other race. That's racism. That's what MLK spoke very much against both of them. 

And yeah Beyoncé is so proud of her nose she had it surgically changed lol. Such pride. 

[lego 44,165]

9 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Free speech is a valuable and important right. However, Free speech in a private domain or corporation is going to have guidelines. 

Free speech doesn't mean freedom from criticism or consequences. It means that the government isn't going to arrest you or execute you for your speech. 

You are confusing free speech in the private sector with the right to free speech protected by the government. Two different things. 

I'm not confusing anything, when minorities get offended over something, right wing cowboys tell them they're too sensitive and they should get over it! It's free speech!

Now the black women wear afro and berets during performance of a song on a stadium and suddenly whites are all offended and beyonce is racist. Aren't they too sensitive now? Shouldn't they just 'get over it'? 

Idk why are you talking about free speech in private sector, NFL had no issue with her. These protestors have. 

[lego 44,165]

16 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Look them up yourself, Wikipedia is free after all. If you get one paragraph in, you'll learn that both Malcolm X and the Black Panthers were against the civil rights movement and Act and they both though African was the superior race to every other race. That's racism. That's what MLK spoke very much against both of them. 

And yeah Beyoncé is so proud of her nose she had it surgically changed lol. Such pride. 

(this is when he left NOI and converted to Islam)

 

 

interesting comment under this article

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/beyonce-super-bowl-dancers-black-panther-outfits_us_56b7f877e4b04f9b57da1cfe

"Jane Casler

 

I was in my early 20s in the late 60s. I am white. I joined SNCC. My impression though was that the Panthers were violent thugs who were exploiting the black power movement. I remember them with their guns, rhetoric about fighting the "pigs," etc. Beyonce's performance at the Super Bowl prompted me to research the history of the Panthers. As a result, now I wonder, did I drink the coolaid?I never knew about CoinIntel, J. Edgar Hoover's unsavory tactics to destroy the Panthers. I am writing this in the midst of the current Black Lives Matter movement and the police killings of unarmed blacks; police and government coverups of video evidence of a policeman murdering a black teenager; a black child with a toy gun gunned down within seconds by a police officer, a young black woman brutalized by a police officer at a routine traffic stop (and her subsequent suicide while in jail), and the criminal poisoning of the mostly black population in Flint, MI by state and EPA officials. Perhaps I did drink the coolaid nearly 50 years ago. From here on in, my views will not be "taught to me" by the media and the government. I love my country. But I will never drink the coolaid from here on in. I will seek out the truth.

 

 

"In October of 1966, in Oakland California, Huey Newton and Bobby Seale founded the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. The Panthers practiced militant self-defense of minority communities against the U.S. government, and fought to establish revolutionary socialism through mass organizing and community based programs."

wiki

 

Ideology

Black nationalism (early)

Maoism

Anti-capitalism

Anti-fascism

Anti-imperialism

Marxism–Leninism

Revolutionary socialism

Anti-racism

Political position

Far-left

 

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"The Black Panther Party first publicized its original Ten-Point program on May 15, 1967, following the Sacramento action, in the second issue of the Black Panther newspaper.[42] The original ten points of "What We Want Now!" follow:

We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our Black Community.

We want full employment for our people.

We want an end to the robbery by the Capitalists of our Black Community.

We want decent housing, fit for shelter of human beings.

We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present day society.

We want all Black men to be exempt from military service.

We want an immediate end to POLICE BRUTALITY and MURDER of Black people.

We want freedom for all Black men held in federal, state, county and city prisons and jails.

We want all Black people when brought to trial to be tried in court by a jury of their peer group or people from their Black Communities, as defined by the Constitution of the United States.

We want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice and peace."

 

 

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11 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

I'm not confusing anything, when minorities get offended over something, right wing cowboys tell them they're too sensitive and they should get over it! It's free speech!

Now the black women wear afro and berets during performance of a song on a stadium and suddenly whites are all offended and beyonce is racist. Aren't they too sensitive now? Shouldn't they just 'get over it'? 

Idk why are you talking about free speech in private sector, NFL had no issue with her. These protestors have. 

When minorities get offended, they take to the streets or social media. They protest. They let people know that they were offended. They have every right to do so...just like the people upset with the halftime show have the right to speak out.

Free speech is not protected in the private sector, which includes all forms of entertainment. The NFL might have no problem with an artist wearing a KKK hood, but because they are broadcasting that into people's homes, the FCC is involved. There are rules and guidelines over what can be shown. Also, because they broadcast to individual homes, they are open for criticism, boycotts, etc. 

[lego 44,165]

2 minutes ago, Whispering said:

When minorities get offended, they take to the streets or social media. They protest. They let people know that they were offended. They have every right to do so...just like the people upset with the halftime show have the right to speak out.

Free speech is not protected in the private sector, which includes all forms of entertainment. The NFL might have no problem with an artist wearing a KKK hood, but because they are broadcasting that into people's homes, the FCC is involved. There are rules and guidelines over what can be shown. Also, because they broadcast to individual homes, they are open for criticism, boycotts, etc. 

 

I didn't say that these people have no right to protest. You are twisting my words or arguing just for the sake of arguing. You know very well what I said. 

 

Also reading more about BP, I would not even compare them to KKK. They were protesting against police brutality in the 60s and Beyonce is doing it her own way in this present day, cause it seems like that didn't really change.

[Whispering 18,865]

Just now, VampireHeart said:

 

I didn't say that these people have no right to protest. You are twisting my words or arguing just for the sake of arguing. You know very well what I said. 

 

Also reading more about BP, I would not even compare them to KKK. They were protesting against police brutality in the 60s and Beyonce is doing it her own way in this present day, cause it seems like that didn't really change.

No, I'm not. I'm trying to point out that you aren't understanding what free speech is and what is protected by the government and what isn't. I know what you said, and it didn't make sense. 

You are the one who compared them to the KKK to try and make some point that never made sense. I didn't bring them up or say they were a valid comparison. 

[lego 44,165]

12 minutes ago, Whispering said:

No, I'm not. I'm trying to point out that you aren't understanding what free speech is and what is protected by the government and what isn't. I know what you said, and it didn't make sense. 

You are the one who compared them to the KKK to try and make some point that never made sense. I didn't bring them up or say they were a valid comparison. 

I didn't compare them to KKK, I was giving an example because the one I was talking to said Beyonce is promoting a terror organization and racist group. And I'm pretty sure he wouldn't label KKK as terror organization nor does he have issue with their rallies. And this wasn't even a rally, it was very vague imagery or even a reach by the media.

And sorry it doesn't make sense to you, but it makes sense to me and some others when I spoke about hypocrisy of these protestors. You keep ignoring that part, that they are the ones who don't mind to offend minorities and they're whining about everyone being too PC, but then this small thing offends them and they're calling for boycott. That is the double standard.

I'm not gonna repeat myself. Sorry if you don't get it.