LG5: The return to quality?

[aaronyoji 2,054]

if u guys think her first two records are the pinnacle of quality this fan base is doomed lol.... 

i want her to achieve a level of quality that she has yet to. that means no "going back" to whatever she's done in the past 

[Didymus 34,379]

4 hours ago, aaronyoji said:

if u guys think her first two records are the pinnacle of quality this fan base is doomed lol.... 

i want her to achieve a level of quality that she has yet to. that means no "going back" to whatever she's done in the past 

The pinnacle so far though. That doesn't mean we're saying she should go back. And we're using pretty much the same arguments as Gaga is, so then I guess her career is doomed too?

4 hours ago, helxig said:

Juust gonna add my 2 cents here: I think Born This Way was her best album, and probably will be forever. Everything about it was so solidly done. Just everything, from concept, to production, to lyrics, to catchiness, to creativity. She put so much work into it, and I think she was working the hardest she ever had at that point, and was filled with a motivation like never before during that era. Listen to the instrumentals and acapellas and you'll realise how many layers of thought went into every song.

Well, that's how I feel about TF

So yeah, it's interesting to see the different responses for sure. To me it just feels natural to state that BTW could've been a lot better had she had more time and less pressure on her person. I don't know what it is about that album, it just feels.. reined in to me. I know that a lot of people here think of it as her most experimental album to date etc. but when I listen to it, I hear a lot of amazing ideas that never really come to full fruition.

Anyway, don't take this as me saying you can't share your opinion. A topic like this will obviously bring everyone's unique one out and that's why I made it

[ShockPop 7,747]

I hope she doesn't return to an old sound or an old look in any way.

What Gaga discovered with cheek to cheek is that quality counts more than chaotic creativity. She can sing, so why hide it on records when that's not what anyone wants? I believe she now knows that the normal routes for pop stars don't apply to her. She doesn't need to go down the "club banger" route for her entire career because she has far more to offer.

Gaga's idols, Elton, Bowie, Ella, Freddie etc didn't stick to one type of music, they let their creativity house itself in different genres. Her success lies in creating an album that can be seen as a legitimate creation, an authentic piece of music.

But how can she do this?

1. Lose the backing track & replace it with a band entirely.

2. Play piano with the band and deliver realness that will legitimise lady gaga.

3. Use professionals for everything. The time for playing director is over. It was ok but when you're in a sinking ship, a rowing boat won't save you all.

4. The sound, as she's said, has to be more real, authentic... Real instruments.

I really believe she will come for us with her jagged little pill.

[Psychedelic 1,098]

Return to quality? When has she been out of quality musically speaking? Not to my knowledge or opinion.

What I do believe is that fame and recognition crawled their way up to Gaga's mind, in way that she left the artisticly humble persona she built during TF and TFM eras. And ended up coming off as pretentious afterwards, specially during ARTPOP, which led people to become tired of her. But the music has always been great imo!

[Didymus 34,379]

2 minutes ago, AcidPop said:

Return to quality? When has she been out of quality musically speaking? Not to my knowledge or opinion.

What I do believe is that fame and recognition crawled their way up to Gaga's mind, in way that she left the artisticly humble persona she built during TF and TFM eras. And ended up coming off as pretentious afterwards, specially during ARTPOP, which led people to become tired of her. But the music has always been great imo!

Well, did you read the OP? Doesn't seem like it.

Quality in this context = Gaga having the time and space to authentically create.

[Psychedelic 1,098]

But her feet seem to be back on earth, I don't see her talking about what's art and whats not, what comes from the artistic sould and what does not. She is just doing her **** and focusing on it, the way she did back in the day. Which is obviously going to lead to a more relaxed concept of her art and music. Not better, not worse, just less pushed, aimed, constructed... I actually don't know what adjective to give to the the way she handled things during the last two eras... but it just didn't seem relaxed or very natural!

[Psychedelic 1,098]

4 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Well, did you read the OP? Doesn't seem like it.

Quality in this context = Gaga having the time and space to authentically create.

Yeah, I get it. Read my second reply!

[Glory 2,247]

Now she gained a new mature audience, she needs to make a more mature album.

No more Donatella, MJH etc please.

Still a fun one, not a 25 though 

[Didymus 34,379]

2 hours ago, Glory said:

Now she gained a new mature audience, she needs to make a more mature album.

No more Donatella, MJH etc please.

Still a fun one, not a 25 though 

I'd love for this fanbase to be reshapen, or better said: expanded in terms of age range. I wanna see milfs and dilfs dancing around me at the LG5 Ball

[abracaluca 540]

The Fame + The Fame Monster for me if not most people define gaga as the pop star we grew to know and love , her brand was important , she was less knowing in the information she gave out , she was a pop star , as her fanbase grew and she tried to grow in front of them there was a rush to get out new music (i.e born this way and ARTPOP) which both were recorded mainly on the road (source : what i remember ) I'm glad gaga's going back in the studio , recording music which she feels is the pinnacle because although born this way is a fantastic album and ARTPOP is an okay album  the theme of the fame + the fame monster did not overshadow the music , that was one of the main problems during BTW + AP the theme was overdone and overplayed. 

[deeman 189]

ARTPOP is so good this version i never heard before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayjOp-KSaZg

 

[scorpion 409]

Watch LG5 sound like some Vanessa Carlton **** now that shes in love and getting married....

 

could you imagine? what a nightmare

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

On 1/9/2016 at 2:12 PM, Bitter said:

I'm actually really fed up with her contradicting herself all the time.

Apparently for Gaga quality equals success.

I remember clearly her saying  before ARTPOP came out that it would be her best work and that it would be really difficult for her to top it in the future.

I'm beyond sure if BTW and ARTPOP were her most successful albums that she would have labelled them as her gold medals.

Of course after ARTPOP's underperformance she changed her mind.

Oh well.

Could she perhaps have been talking the album up in order to feel more confident and content about it?

People do that all the time you know.

Why are you so hung up on what she said anyway. You do remember that she wasn't exactly in a good state of mind during the entire ARTPOP era right? Stop being hypercritical about what she said in the past in general. If you know anything about artistic people is that they tend to be grandiose. Either way even if she was, Gaga is pretty passionate about her work and is proud out of it, and like all artists sometimes she may be a tad delusional about it. 

Oh and she refers to BTW as her second album. She was only talking about ARTPOP.

Don't assume to know anything about how she is thinking. Everything I've said so far has been typical human behavior and may or may not apply to her. I also hope you realize that she is a human being and not some programmed robot. She's capable of changing her mind.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

18 hours ago, ShockPop said:

 

1. Lose the backing track & replace it with a band entirely.

2. Play piano with the band and deliver realness that will legitimise lady gaga.

3. Use professionals for everything. The time for playing director is over. It was ok but when you're in a sinking ship, a rowing boat won't save you all.

4. The sound, as she's said, has to be more real, authentic... Real instruments.

This. So much this.

[ItsBrice Idk 3]

I do agree with what you are saying about her state of mind while producing BTW and ARTPOP, however I do believe that ARTPOP is still quality music; it is just her trying out a different genre. ARTPOP was truly an emotional release for her, and I believe was not written with the intention to sell mass amounts of this music. 

 

Many people do claim that ARTPOP was bad quality music; and I do partially agree, But you had to truly listen with an open mind to take in the full effect that the album was producing. 

 

With the release of LG 5, fans are looking forward to 'quality' music. But what does that truly mean, the definition of quality is the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind; the degree of excellence of something. And I do believe that when ARTPOP is measured against TF or TFM, it is lacking in the pop aspects. However, it is excelling in the electronic aspect and truly the aspect of this new kind of music which is known as ARTPOP.