Didymus 34,380 Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 "bulldozing down Palestinian villages" is not only false but has nothing to do with this thread or the fact that Israel's military budget is very high. This was just a hotel, but it was to make place for new settlers, so don't act like they're above it The two are linked. Israel makes a choice to free money for internationally illegal purposes & to freeze money for schools that tutor the best non-Jewish students in the country, preferring schools who don't teach their students skills that are basic for a well-rounded Western education. And there are other parallels you can draw so I don't think it's off-topic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 If they could please not disadvantage our generation based on religion that'd be great Disappointing move from a government I know has done some great things in a region already so damaged because of religious fervour. Bye. Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 This is so stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 How come I'm not surprised? It's Israel.yeah because Israel is the worst country ever. Most of middle eastern countries don't even allow other religious practices or even conversions. But the bad guy is always Israel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Of course this is stupid and the new government sucks. It just funny how much hate Israel gets compared to other countries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Of course this is stupid and the new government sucks. It just funny how much hate Israel gets compared to other countries.I think that's because the country's representatives (and defenders) always run around with this idea that Israel is an enlightened country that supports equality, is tolerant, is secular, modern,... When people see evidence of the contrary it's only natural that they're gonna be insulting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think that's because the country's representatives (and defenders) always run around with this idea that Israel is an enlightened country that supports equality, is tolerant, is secular, modern,... When people see evidence of the contrary it's only natural that they're gonna be insulting.I think it's well known that Arabs are not that privileged in Israel. (Still more than Jews in Arab countries though) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think it's well known that Arabs are not that privileged in Israel. (Still more than Jews in Arab countries though) I don't understand, are you saying that because it's well known there shouldn't be any outrage against it?And actually, the Israeli constitution (or whatever it is) claims that there will be absolutely no discrimination based on race etc. etc. so even if it's well known it's still illegal on their own terms. I didn't forget Netanyahu's proposal to make all Arabs second rate citizens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiphEret 1,320 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 If the state was doing this to all non state system school including jewish orthodox school...well I wouldn't really complain, if it's a secular country I don't even see why religious school should get funding like state school (I am not sure though if Israel is secular like we are in France secular) but clearly again orthodox jewish get privilege again among many others (no army service for example...how fair is that? ) Sur le sable sur la neige, Sur les images dorées,Sur le front de mes amis, J’écris ton nom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 yeah because Israel is the worst country ever. Most of middle eastern countries don't even allow other religious practices or even conversions. But the bad guy is always Israel.Israel might not be the worst country ever, but it is clearly one of the worst countries!Instead to stabilise the whole region, it goes on and on with its Zionist agenda. MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiphEret 1,320 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Israel might not be the worst country ever, but it is clearly one of the worst countries!Instead to stabilise the whole region, it goes on and on with its Zionist agenda.Ok I would say depends who you are. Israel can be a very nice country to live, I have been there and so far it's my favorite place after living 4 other countries BUT if you cross the check point and see Palestine you can see who gets the system unfortunately...I would also say that not all minorities are oppressed in Israel, there is an issue with Palestinian we know that well but many minorities lives there without trouble, I can't speak for education clearly but it isn't a black and white situation and even if a lot of things happening there are f*cked up let's not portray it like they are evil. Their government is f*cked up but can we judge all citizen base don that? Including the ones that certainly didn't vote for it? Sur le sable sur la neige, Sur les images dorées,Sur le front de mes amis, J’écris ton nom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I would say depends who you are. Israel can be a very nice country to live, I have been there and so far it's my favorite place after living 4 other countries BUT if you cross the check point and see Palestine you can see who gets the system unfortunately...I would also say that not all minorities are oppressed in Israel, there is an issue with Palestinian we know that well but many minorities lives there without trouble, I can't speak for education clearly but it isn't a black and white situation and even if a lot of things happening there are f*cked up let's not portray it like they are evil. Their government is f*cked up but can we judge all citizen base don that? Including the ones that certainly didn't vote for it? I am clearly talking about the Government in Israel and its supporters.Road map for peace now! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiphEret 1,320 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I am clearly talking about the Government in Israel and its supporters.Road map for peace now!Then we are on the same page , I don't know if peace will happen, I think justice needs to happen first as an Palestinian told me. Sur le sable sur la neige, Sur les images dorées,Sur le front de mes amis, J’écris ton nom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 This was just a hotel, but it was to make place for new settlers, so don't act like they're above it The two are linked. Israel makes a choice to free money for internationally illegal purposes & to freeze money for schools that tutor the best non-Jewish students in the country, preferring schools who don't teach their students skills that are basic for a well-rounded Western education. And there are other parallels you can draw so I don't think it's off-topic. You're not the only one to question the gap between the military budget and the education budget in Israel. It doesn't only affect the Arab community, it affects the Jewish community as well. All of the Israelis as one. However, you're saying as if the entire military budget is being used for internationally illegal purposes and that's simply wrong. Without all this budget, Israel would've been erased from the world map by now. There is a reason for this budget. Believe me, we all would've preferred a lower military budget but we aren't the ones who decide unfortunately. You'd have to ask the thousands of terrorists and enemies Israel is surrounded by to stop first. The Palestinian-Israeli conflict has nothing to do with this at all. This doesn't rule out the fact that I hope this issue will be solved soon. There is an unfair finance division in Israel and I truly hope the minister of education in Israel, Naftali Benet, will fix this before it gets even messier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Then we are on the same page , I don't know if peace will happen, I think justice needs to happen first as an Palestinian told me.Which would be: Europe and the U.S. finally punishing Israel for decades of illegal conduct, BUT the U.S. will never allow it because Israel is an important ally and Europe will never act on its own for such a major decision so the situation is just trapped.The only thing I can think of that would help is public pressure from U.S. & Europe citizens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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