SICK and TIRED of all of these Gaga hate threads

[Didymus 34,380]

Jeez. Literally all I'm seeing in this thread is people being willing to ruin an entire forum experience that's like 99% filled with positivity about Gaga every day because of that 1%.

You're the problem. Fix it. The end.

And is the ignoring option completely alien to people all of a sudden? If you don't want to see those comments over and over again, then ****ing put those members on ignore But if you do ( @AgusPop ) then at least stop talking mad **** about them because that's when you cross the line from censoring negativity to breeding it.

[Kayla 7,595]

So much "I'm over Gaga" threads?

I can think of one right now, which I'm sure is the one that inspired this thread.

If you look at the "Are you over Gaga?" thread, you'll find a vast majority of the posts are people saying either they are NOT over Gaga and can't imagine themselves ever getting over Gaga or people saying they're not excited about her latest work, but they still love her and are not over her. 

It seems the people complaining about that thread are getting caught up on the title and missing the messages. Even the OP of that thread said he'll always love Gaga and will be there for her future endeavors. 
You're kindof being like the people who miss Gaga's message because they can't get past her eccentric outfits- judging a book by its cover when the inside is full of so many beautiful things you'd actually agree with. 

Sure, there are some posts in that thread that are members saying they are over Gaga, but they're a tiny minority, yet you're letting them cloud your vision of the thread as a whole.

 

I'll be reading through this thread in a second, but unless someone has done it can you actually post links to all these hateful threads? 

[Didymus 34,380]

I'll be reading through this thread in a second, but unless someone has done it can you actually post links to all these hateful threads? 

@AgusPop, one of the main polemicists in this thread referred to this thread as showing all the "trolls" that are referred to by the OP:

Most obvious suspects I imagine:

- Creyk
- Yanko
- Pex
- me
- Jjang
- Alien Tulip

[Kayla 7,595]

Nnnn the inaccuracy. There were countless "I want PopGa :(" threads back in the CTC era. I distinctly remember a thread about a fan who went to the CTC show and was super disappointed because Gaga didn't do crazy theatrics  

And there were COUNTLESS ARTPOP hate threads back in 2014. Literally countless. Threads hating on ARTPOP, Gaga, her management and it was basically the peak era of Little Managers. 

I will agree with this. People did criticize ARTPOP (and C2C) a lot, and some were ruthless.

Tbh. I'm done with all the negativity. If you don't like Gaga, what the hell are you doing in a forum devoted to her?

And all the people who say there is no hate to ARTPOP or C2C, they must be blind  Hatred has made GagaDaily unbareable, it's not even funny anymore.

True, true. 

 

Here's the distinction that I think should be made, though.

This thread is saying there is a lot of hate/flamebait towards Gaga.
What I'm seeing is people who still love and support Gaga but didn't like aspects of ARTPOP and Cheek to Cheek. 
And I'm noticing certain people confuse criticism of two of Gaga's most recent works with disliking of Gaga herself, when that is not the case.

If OP would have opened this thread complaining about people criticizing ARTPOP and Cheek to Cheek, I would have agreed with it. 

Considering this woman has a good career under her belt with more to come, it's to be expected that there will be some fans who end up really disliking some of the things she does. But I think it speaks volumes that despite that, those fans choose to stick around. 

In my opinion, a "True Fan" isn't necessarily someone who LOVES everything Gaga does, it's someone who would choose to stick around even when they don't. 

[abracaluca 540]

Some of y'all need to get out the house more 

 

 

[Kayla 7,595]

Okay, you're allowed to express yourself, but at least in a respectful manner? Maybe? Not saying ARTPOP and CTC were boring and s***ty trash. And im not a yas sheep honey. I don't like some decisions like JnD but I don't go out saying that it was complete trash and disgusting everywhere.

Ive seen that said in at least 10 topics, even worse tbh

For the record, if someone were to just say Gaga's albums are "boring and ****ty trash," they would be warned. If you see someone doing this, please report them. (And please distinguish between "ARTPOP is trash!" and "A lot of things fell apart in the ARTPOP era; what was Gaga thinking?" One is flamebait, the other is not)

Now, if someone were to go in a thread like "What do you love about Gaga?" and start saying "Well I certainly don't love the ARTPOP era!" then we'd probably warn for flamebait there since they're choosing to focus on their criticisms in a thread made for love.  

[Kayla 7,595]

Preach this thread, that "Are you over Gaga?" thread made me feel sick. So glad there are still lots of users who respect and care about her.

...did you read the posts in that thread? Pretty much everyone posting in it were saying they still respect and love her.  Like even the OP said he'll still always love her. Are you getting caught up on the title and missing the actual posts?

[Chic 20,830]

Me when the GGD drama blockades the road to insightful discussion

[Kayla 7,595]

 

"I find Jazz so boring, I wish Gaga would stop covering these old songs, I'm really not interested in Gaga at all right now she isn't exciting and interesting like she once was..."

It's a negative opinion, and not one that I agree with, but this is a forum. People are going to express opinions and sometimes they are going to express opinions that the majority disagree with. That's really the main point. We aren't going to start censoring unpopular or negative opinions, that defeats the entire purpose of a forum. You can like or dislike anything Gaga does or anything any other artist does, it's about putting your point across in a respectful way.

If someone writes something like:

"I LOVE Cheek to Cheek! Sorry to all you basic pop fans, you just have bad taste in music and you are going to have to suck it up!! Queen Gaga slays all you lessers. Go stan for Katy because we don't want you here you stupid little teen twinks!"

Is likely to get warned because, even though I also love C2C, they are insulting the tastes of other members and calling them stupid. It's a positive opinion on Gaga, but not said in a particularly respectful way.

So if you dislike something Gaga, Madonna, Katy, Britney, Beyonce, Taylor, Miley, Rihanna or anyone has done then fair enough. Everyone has different tastes and people are going to disagree on certain things. Just write your opinion in a respectful way ( "I don't like this music video at all, I hate music videos that do this ________ I just find it tacky" rather than "This music video is trash and this artist is trash")
 

Thanks for clarifying things.  

I agree with what you said but constantly seeing negative opinions on Gaga by the same members does get super annoying on her own fansite. I got warned once just for posting this: :reductive: in a thread of another popstar. Apparently that's considered worse on this site by the mods but a carefully worded opinion discrediting Gaga is just fine  

If someone posted :reductive: in a Gaga thread they'd be warned just like they'd be warned in a thread for another popstar.
If someone posted an explanation about why they dislike something another artist did they would not be warned, just like they wouldn't be warned for doing the same in a thread about Gaga. 

You're comparing two completely different types of posts. 

And for the record- we encourage people to express their negative opinions with careful words. Sure, saying "I think PRISM is the worst album of the decade," is the nice way of saying "PRISM is ****ing horrible how could anyone like that trash?" but that doesn't mean it's warn worthy. 
Saying "Gaga was inconsistent and made a lot of mistakes during ARTPOP," is the nice way of saying "ARTPOP sucked and it was a flop album era," but the fact that it was constructive means it wasn't flamebait.

Now, if someone made a thread saying "Share what you love about ARTPOP!" and someone went in their being a sourpuss I'd give them a warning for derailing the thread, because that'd be flamebaity. However, posting their carefully worded opinion in a general thread is not. 

You're basically saying people should be warned for stating their negative opinions politely, we're saying that if people want to share negative opinions, they have to do it politely or they'll be warned.

 

This! When a simple one word comment or a giggling emoticon in threads of other artists get WPs, then that sets the standard. These "carefully worded opinions" that call Gaga titles such as fake, liar, hypocrite, lazy, careless, etc. are looked at as "opinions". Opinions that some people are posting everyday... week after week, month after month. Why isn't this constant negativity towards Gaga on her own fanforum considered flamebait, when such minor comments are considered Flamebait when they are directed towards other artists? 

This is the source of some of the confusion! 

I explained this above. 

 

[Bye 3,947]

Thanks for clarifying things.  

If someone posted :reductive: in a Gaga thread they'd be warned just like they'd be warned in a thread for another popstar.If someone posted an explanation about why they dislike something another artist did they would not be warned, just like they wouldn't be warned for doing the same in a thread about Gaga. 

You're comparing two completely different types of posts. 

And for the record- we encourage people to express their negative opinions with careful words. Sure, saying "I think PRISM is the worst album of the decade," is the nice way of saying "PRISM is ****ing horrible how could anyone like that trash?" but that doesn't mean it's warn worthy. 
Saying "Gaga was inconsistent and made a lot of mistakes during ARTPOP," is the nice way of saying "ARTPOP sucked and it was a flop album era," but the fact that it was constructive means it wasn't flamebait.

Now, if someone made a thread saying "Share what you love about ARTPOP!" and someone went in their being a sourpuss I'd give them a warning for derailing the thread, because that'd be flamebaity. However, posting their carefully worded opinion in a general thread is not. 

You're basically saying people should be warned for stating their negative opinions politely, we're saying that if people want to share negative opinions, they have to do it politely or they'll be warned.

 

I explained this above. 

 

You explained it perfectly there, thank you  can't like the post because I've used up my 40 likes of the day already  that's all I wanted to know. Although in a way the way you explained it made it obvious to me that those kind of posts are basically the same negative opinion just worded better  

[codymonster 8,621]

People just need lives tbh. The only reason I go on this site is because I'm OBSESSED with Gaga. I love her personality, who she is, and her artistry. She has a brilliant mind, and I respect her so much, which is why I will always take everything she creates with an open mind. I also enjoy seeing comments and having discussions with other people who feel the same way about Gaga.

I can't imagine posting 1000's of times on a site devoted to someone I don't really care about that much.  I think that just says a lot about their real lives.... They be bored as fuuuuuuuuuuck  

[Cody Draco 2,531]

People just need lives tbh. The only reason I go on this site is because I'm OBSESSED with Gaga. I love her personality, who she is, and her artistry. She has a brilliant mind, and I respect her so much, which is why I will always take everything she creates with an open mind. I also enjoy seeing comments and having discussions with other people who feel the same way about Gaga.

I can't imagine posting 1000's of times on a site devoted to someone I don't really care about that much.  I think that just says a lot about their real lives.... They be bored as fuuuuuuuuuuck  

Or they come here because this community is miles better than other music forums like ATRL and they enjoying discussing music/entertainment/anything else really in general. I think there are many different reasons why people join and stay on this site. Gaga is the common connection but the best communities are built on more than just one connection. This place would be incredibly stale and sickening if the only thing discussed was Gaga.

That is what makes this such a special site. Yes we all like Gaga or at least did at one point, but then we are able to discuss anything that interests us and make friends bases on these mutual interests. I feel bad for members like you that are ONLY here for Gaga. This site is so multifaceted and so beautiful.

I'll mention that I originally joined this site just for Gaga but quickly fell in love with this site for many other things AND Gaga. I'm just sticking up for those members that may be discriminated against by the stans. Sorry for such a long post, it's not just you whom I wanted to say this to. It's many members who have a similiar idea as to what this site should be as you do.

[Jjang 2,262]

People can disagree about facts, that doesn't make them non-facts. Opinions which are non-factual annoy me especially when repeated in multiple threads  

Journalism, MTV articles and the opinion of a DJ are no facts. They are simply assumptions based on what is viewable through the mainstream surface. The EDM soundscape did not spontaneously pop out of the blue after Gaga arrived into the scene, it was a growing process. EDM was spawning back to back hits through late 2007 and by 2008 it was already a flourishing trend as the biggest hits at the time were all infused with electronic sounds (you see, now this is a fact). The trend was stabilized by Gaga's meteoric rise to fame (which was the perfect scenario to lure people into believing that Gaga set the trend, because she was the biggest act at the time) along with David Guetta and The Black Eyed Peas. As for EDM being brought to the mainstream : sociologists, historians and other social scientists credited Ray of Light with bringing the genre into the mainstream. It's funny how such thing needs to be debated, you don't see rock fans claiming Nirvana did not bring alternative rock into the mainstream because Evanescence and Green Day made it trendy years after Nevermind was released. It's only pop fans that are completely clueless about their favorite genres history.  

[Knife 6,897]

I agree. All of these imagined, non-existent attacks on Gaga really are getting out of hand.

[AgusPop 4,162]

This! When a simple one word comment or a giggling emoticon in threads of other artists get WPs, then that sets the standard. These "carefully worded opinions" that call Gaga titles such as fake, liar, hypocrite, lazy, careless, etc. are looked at as "opinions". Opinions that some people are posting everyday... week after week, month after month. Why isn't this constant negativity towards Gaga on her own fanforum considered flamebait, when such minor comments are considered Flamebait when they are directed towards other artists? 

This is the source of some of the confusion! 

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