"Kill all the Jews"-chant in pro-palestine demo in Vienna

[Vernier 3,786]

Football fans are the pits (not all of them obviously). Thankfully, FIFA is trying to clamp down on racist/anti-Semitic stuff like this. Hope they get the ban/fine they deserve

[lego 44,165]

Today Palestinians are no different from Jordan's population. They were never different, they both share the same ethnic origin. The Palestinian national movement started after Israel & Jordan were founded. Your argument is false & unnecessary. Both people live here now and they'll have to find a way to live together. But no one owned the land, neither Jews or Arabs. It's important we stick to facts.

My argument is correct and can be easily checked. Just because they weren't independent, it doesn't mean they didn't exist. The land was not empty, as it's often falsely repeated. Yes they both live there now but it's no secret how the state was founded.

Being anti-Israel simply means being against state policies, treatment of Palestinians, illegal settlements and occupation. Hooligans don't represent anyone other than themselves.

[Giorno Giovanna 3,178]

these people are so unnecessary 

pls go away and never come back

 

:vomit:

[Dolev 867]

My argument is correct and can be easily checked. Just because they weren't independent, it doesn't mean they didn't exist. The land was not empty, as it's often falsely repeated. Yes they both live there now but it's no secret how the state was founded.

Being anti-Israel simply means being against state policies, treatment of Palestinians, illegal settlements and occupation. Hooligans don't represent anyone other than themselves.

​The land was an empty desert with people living only in few cities. Far away from what Israel is today. You completely ignored what I've said about the Palestinians being identical the same as the majority of Jordan. 

[lego 44,165]

​The land was an empty desert with people living only in few cities. Far away from what Israel is today. You completely ignored what I've said about the Palestinians being identical the same as the majority of Jordan. 

No it wasn't all empty desert. That's often repeated myth. Of course it's different than Israel today, Israel in 1950s is far away from Israel today, totally irrelevant. Yes I ignored, because it doesn't really make sense, they are both Arabs, so? Yemeni Jews and Israeli Jews have same origin, should all Jews move to Yemen or? What you said doesn't change the fact that Arabs lived in Palestine for centuries, and Palestine region existed on map even before the romans.

Just because Arabs were once united and now are split to states, doesn't mean that Palestinians never existed or that they don't deserve own state now.

[Dolev 867]

No it wasn't all empty desert. That's often repeated lie. Of course it's different than Israel today, Israel in 1950s is far away from Israel today, totally irrelevant. Yes I ignored, because it doesn't really make sense, they are both Arabs, so? Yemeni Jews and Israeli Jews have same origin, should all Jews move to Yemen or? What you said doesn't change the fact that Arabs lived in Palestine for centuries, and Palestine region existed on map even before the romans.

Just because Arabs were once united and now are split to states, doesn't mean that Palestinians never existed or that they don't deserve own state now.

"Innocents Abroad", 1867 \ Mark Twain:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

& it sure makes sense. They both share the same origin, both are living next to each other, both were one prior to the establishment of The Hashemite Kingdom.
Yemen was never connected with Jewish history, your comparison is just ridiculous.

"Palestine region existed on map even before the romans". Lies. Philistia was populated by the Greek oriented Philistines. How far will you go? you can't just twist history you know. 

[Dolev 867]

No it wasn't all empty desert. That's often repeated lie. Of course it's different than Israel today, Israel in 1950s is far away from Israel today, totally irrelevant. Yes I ignored, because it doesn't really make sense, they are both Arabs, so? Yemeni Jews and Israeli Jews have same origin, should all Jews move to Yemen or? What you said doesn't change the fact that Arabs lived in Palestine for centuries, and Palestine region existed on map even before the romans.

Just because Arabs were once united and now are split to states, doesn't mean that Palestinians never existed or that they don't deserve own state now.

"Innocents Abroad", 1867 \ Mark Twain:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

& it sure makes sense. They both share the same origin, both are living next to each other, both were one prior to the establishment of The Hashemite Kingdom.
Yemen was never connected with Jewish history, your comparison is just ridiculous.

"Palestine region existed on map even before the romans". Lies. Philistia was populated by the Greek oriented Philistines. How far will you go? you can't just twist history you know. 

[lego 44,165]

 

From the early stages of Zionism to the present, Zionists have propagated the myth that the most important land-bridge in human history (Palestine) has been empty and destitute for two thousand year until it was later developed by the Israeli Jews.To facilitate such disinformation, the Zionists adopted the following slogan to entice European Jewry to emigrate to Palestine: 

"A land with no people is for a people

 with no land". 

Had the Zionist leadership admitted the existence of an indigenous people, then they would have been obliged to explain how they intended to displace them. To disprove this baseless myth, let's quote Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) who stated as early as 1918 that "Palestine is not an empty country". According to Shabtai Teveth (one of Ben-Gurion's official biographers), Ben-Gurion stated in an article published in 1918 that:

"Palestine is not an empty country . . . on no account must we injure the rights of the inhabitants." 

 

As the Ottoman census records show Palestine was widely inhabited in the late 19th and early 20th century, especially in the rural areas where agriculture was the main profession. According to Justine McCarthy (p. 26), an authority on the Ottoman Turks, Palestine's population in the early 19th century was 350,000, and in 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews (including many European Jews from the first and second Aliyah). 

 

Justine McCarthy was quoted by many Israeli Jewish scholars like Benny Morris and Tom Segev. In that regard, it's worth quoting one of the most ardent Zionists, Israel Zangwill, who stated as early as 1905, that Palestine was twice as thickly populated as the United States. He stated:

 

"Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews ..... [We] must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us." (Righteous Victims, p. 140 & Expulsion Of The

 Palestinians, p. 7-10)

 

 "One must admit that the density of the population does not give the visitor much cause for cheer. In whole stretches throughout the land one constantly comes across large Arab villages, and it is an established fact that the most fertile areas of our country are occupied by Arabs..." (Protocol of the Second Zionist Congress, Pg. 103).

 

@Dolev

[lego 44,165]

 

From the early stages of Zionism to the present, Zionists have propagated the myth that the most important land-bridge in human history (Palestine) has been empty and destitute for two thousand year until it was later developed by the Israeli Jews.To facilitate such disinformation, the Zionists adopted the following slogan to entice European Jewry to emigrate to Palestine: 

"A land with no people is for a people

 with no land". 

Had the Zionist leadership admitted the existence of an indigenous people, then they would have been obliged to explain how they intended to displace them. To disprove this baseless myth, let's quote Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) who stated as early as 1918 that "Palestine is not an empty country". According to Shabtai Teveth (one of Ben-Gurion's official biographers), Ben-Gurion stated in an article published in 1918 that:

"Palestine is not an empty country . . . on no account must we injure the rights of the inhabitants." 

 

As the Ottoman census records show Palestine was widely inhabited in the late 19th and early 20th century, especially in the rural areas where agriculture was the main profession. According to Justine McCarthy (p. 26), an authority on the Ottoman Turks, Palestine's population in the early 19th century was 350,000, and in 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews (including many European Jews from the first and second Aliyah). 

 

Justine McCarthy was quoted by many Israeli Jewish scholars like Benny Morris and Tom Segev. In that regard, it's worth quoting one of the most ardent Zionists, Israel Zangwill, who stated as early as 1905, that Palestine was twice as thickly populated as the United States. He stated:

 

"Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews ..... [We] must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us." (Righteous Victims, p. 140 & Expulsion Of The

 Palestinians, p. 7-10)

 

 "One must admit that the density of the population does not give the visitor much cause for cheer. In whole stretches throughout the land one constantly comes across large Arab villages, and it is an established fact that the most fertile areas of our country are occupied by Arabs..." (Protocol of the Second Zionist Congress, Pg. 103).

 

@Dolev

[Dolev 867]

No it wasn't all empty desert. That's often repeated myth. Of course it's different than Israel today, Israel in 1950s is far away from Israel today, totally irrelevant. Yes I ignored, because it doesn't really make sense, they are both Arabs, so? Yemeni Jews and Israeli Jews have same origin, should all Jews move to Yemen or? What you said doesn't change the fact that Arabs lived in Palestine for centuries, and Palestine region existed on map even before the romans.

Just because Arabs were once united and now are split to states, doesn't mean that Palestinians never existed or that they don't deserve own state now.

​"Innocents Abroad", 1867 / Mark Twain:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

It does make sense. They both are from the same ethnic group, they both live in the same place, they both were one prior to the establishment of The Hashemite Kingdom.
Yemen was never connected with Jewish history the way Israel is, your comparison is just ridiculous.

"Palestine region existed on map even before the romans" The lies 

We both know the Philistines were Greek oriented.

[lego 44,165]

 

From the early stages of Zionism to the present, Zionists have propagated the myth that the most important land-bridge in human history (Palestine) has been empty and destitute for two thousand year until it was later developed by the Israeli Jews.To facilitate such disinformation, the Zionists adopted the following slogan to entice European Jewry to emigrate to Palestine: 

"A land with no people is for a people

 with no land". 

Had the Zionist leadership admitted the existence of an indigenous people, then they would have been obliged to explain how they intended to displace them. To disprove this baseless myth, let's quote Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) who stated as early as 1918 that "Palestine is not an empty country". According to Shabtai Teveth (one of Ben-Gurion's official biographers), Ben-Gurion stated in an article published in 1918 that:

"Palestine is not an empty country . . . on no account must we injure the rights of the inhabitants." 

 

As the Ottoman census records show Palestine was widely inhabited in the late 19th and early 20th century, especially in the rural areas where agriculture was the main profession. According to Justine McCarthy (p. 26), an authority on the Ottoman Turks, Palestine's population in the early 19th century was 350,000, and in 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews (including many European Jews from the first and second Aliyah). 

 

Justine McCarthy was quoted by many Israeli Jewish scholars like Benny Morris and Tom Segev. In that regard, it's worth quoting one of the most ardent Zionists, Israel Zangwill, who stated as early as 1905, that Palestine was twice as thickly populated as the United States. He stated:

 

"Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews ..... [We] must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us." (Righteous Victims, p. 140 & Expulsion Of The

 Palestinians, p. 7-10)

 

 "One must admit that the density of the population does not give the visitor much cause for cheer. In whole stretches throughout the land one constantly comes across large Arab villages, and it is an established fact that the most fertile areas of our country are occupied by Arabs..." (Protocol of the Second Zionist Congress, Pg. 103).

 

@Dolev

[lego 44,165]

 

From the early stages of Zionism to the present, Zionists have propagated the myth that the most important land-bridge in human history (Palestine) has been empty and destitute for two thousand year until it was later developed by the Israeli Jews.To facilitate such disinformation, the Zionists adopted the following slogan to entice European Jewry to emigrate to Palestine: 

"A land with no people is for a people

 with no land". 

Had the Zionist leadership admitted the existence of an indigenous people, then they would have been obliged to explain how they intended to displace them. To disprove this baseless myth, let's quote Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) who stated as early as 1918 that "Palestine is not an empty country". According to Shabtai Teveth (one of Ben-Gurion's official biographers), Ben-Gurion stated in an article published in 1918 that:

"Palestine is not an empty country . . . on no account must we injure the rights of the inhabitants." 

 

As the Ottoman census records show Palestine was widely inhabited in the late 19th and early 20th century, especially in the rural areas where agriculture was the main profession. According to Justine McCarthy (p. 26), an authority on the Ottoman Turks, Palestine's population in the early 19th century was 350,000, and in 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews (including many European Jews from the first and second Aliyah). 

 

Justine McCarthy was quoted by many Israeli Jewish scholars like Benny Morris and Tom Segev. In that regard, it's worth quoting one of the most ardent Zionists, Israel Zangwill, who stated as early as 1905, that Palestine was twice as thickly populated as the United States. He stated:

 

"Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews ..... [We] must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us." (Righteous Victims, p. 140 & Expulsion Of The

 Palestinians, p. 7-10)

 

 "One must admit that the density of the population does not give the visitor much cause for cheer. In whole stretches throughout the land one constantly comes across large Arab villages, and it is an established fact that the most fertile areas of our country are occupied by Arabs..." (Protocol of the Second Zionist Congress, Pg. 103).

 

@Dolev

[Dolev 867]

​

No it wasn't all empty desert. That's often repeated myth. Of course it's different than Israel today, Israel in 1950s is far away from Israel today, totally irrelevant. Yes I ignored, because it doesn't really make sense, they are both Arabs, so? Yemeni Jews and Israeli Jews have same origin, should all Jews move to Yemen or? What you said doesn't change the fact that Arabs lived in Palestine for centuries, and Palestine region existed on map even before the romans.

Just because Arabs were once united and now are split to states, doesn't mean that Palestinians never existed or that they don't deserve own state now.

​"Innocents Abroad", 1867 / Mark Twain:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

It does make sense. They both are from the same ethnic group, they both live in the same place, they both were one prior to the establishment of The Hashemite Kingdom.
Yemen was never connected with Jewish history the way Israel is, your comparison is just ridiculous.

"Palestine region existed on map even before the romans" The lies 

We both know the Philistines were Greek oriented.

[Dolev 867]

No it wasn't all empty desert. That's often repeated myth. Of course it's different than Israel today, Israel in 1950s is far away from Israel today, totally irrelevant. Yes I ignored, because it doesn't really make sense, they are both Arabs, so? Yemeni Jews and Israeli Jews have same origin, should all Jews move to Yemen or? What you said doesn't change the fact that Arabs lived in Palestine for centuries, and Palestine region existed on map even before the romans.

Just because Arabs were once united and now are split to states, doesn't mean that Palestinians never existed or that they don't deserve own state now.

​

​"Innocents Abroad", 1867 / Mark Twain:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

It does make sense. They both are from the same ethnic group, they both live in the same place, they both were one prior to the establishment of The Hashemite Kingdom.
Yemen was never connected with Jewish history the way Israel is, your comparison is just ridiculous.

"Palestine region existed on map even before the romans" The lies  [:air:]

We both know the Philistines were Greek oriented.

[Dolev 867]

No it wasn't all empty desert. That's often repeated myth. Of course it's different than Israel today, Israel in 1950s is far away from Israel today, totally irrelevant. Yes I ignored, because it doesn't really make sense, they are both Arabs, so? Yemeni Jews and Israeli Jews have same origin, should all Jews move to Yemen or? What you said doesn't change the fact that Arabs lived in Palestine for centuries, and Palestine region existed on map even before the romans.

Just because Arabs were once united and now are split to states, doesn't mean that Palestinians never existed or that they don't deserve own state now.

​

​"Innocents Abroad", 1867 / Mark Twain:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

It does make sense. They both are from the same ethnic group, they both live in the same place, they both were one prior to the establishment of The Hashemite Kingdom.
Yemen was never connected with Jewish history the way Israel is, your comparison is just ridiculous.

"Palestine region existed on map even before the romans" The lies  [:air:]

We both know the Philistines were Greek oriented.