Pablo 7,811 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 strange, ask what they think of Jeff Koons and Marina Abramović cause gags is an artist Don't visit my profile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Ezzie 2 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Sometimes teachers do it on purpose to see how you're gonna react. It might have been a trap. If it wasn't, what kind of flop teachers ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 so i was doing my entrance exams today to enter an art school where i really really wanna go to and the most important assignment was the oral examination. So they asked me which artist i really look up to and why. So i told them it's gaga and did my explanation.. THEY LOOKED AT ME VERY DESGUSTED and told me that she just wants attention and that there's nothing artsy about her and then they asked me if it's ECOLOGICALLY RESPONSIBLE THAT SHE WOULD PERFORM IN SPACE... I mean what does that have to do with art???? they kept on b---hing about her not having a personality and all... I mean IM SORRY I LOOK UP TO HER bottom line: they're probably gonna fail me because I like gaga. (i know my results tomorrow) I hope you don't type "gonna" in your written assignments. Impress you won't. If I were trying to get into a serious art school, I would have used someone other than a pop star who references art. I would have talked about a true artist I look up to for art school Although, some of their remarks were juvenile back to you and made no sense. What does personality have to do with art? Oh, well. Maybe next semester you can try again. Good luck. I wish I were talented enough to go to art school. I admire creative people like yourself. I would have chosen the Chinese artist working here in America, Hung Liu. I am blown away by and admire her brilliance and uniqueness in art, photography, sketches. I am inept and can only admire artists. Here's some of her artwork to click onto. http://www.museumca.org/gallery/summoning-ghosts-art-hung-liu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummerGirl21 787 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 As long as you had a good explanation as to why you look up to her, they shouldn't fault you for it. They can't fail you for liking Gaga, but they can fail you for not making your point and saying what makes Gaga an artist in your opinion. well said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie 608 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Even Koons or Abramovitch are not considered as artists by some of my teachers. Most of them think Koons is a troll/buisnessman and Marina is a copycat. I would never talk about Gaga in my classes, she just isn't legitimate. Even if we consider Gaga like a performance-artist, her statements are just old, she would have been a great artist in the 70s... but today... she brings nothing new to the art world at all. I'm not saying her point of view isn't interesting, but she can't be considered as a comtempory artist... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtti 156 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I'm not saying her point of view isn't interesting, but she can't be considered as a comtempory artist... Art, by definition, is simply something that's beautiful. It definitely does not need to be 'new' to be art. And while Gaga being an artist as a musician is debatable, she IS one of the greatest performance artist ever :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,123 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Even Koons or Abramovitch are not considered as artists by some of my teachers. Most of them think Koons is a troll/buisnessman and Marina is a copycat. I would never talk about Gaga in my classes, she just isn't legitimate. Even if we consider Gaga like a performance-artist, her statements are just old, she would have been a great artist in the 70s... but today... she brings nothing new to the art world at all. I'm not saying her point of view isn't interesting, but she can't be considered as a comtempory artist... :usrs: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie 608 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Art, by definition, is simply something that's beautiful. It definitely does not need to be 'new' to be art. And while Gaga being an artist as a musician is debatable, she IS one of the greatest performance artist ever :-) Your definition of art is not correct. It is impossible and very subjective to define art, if there were such definition we wouldn't need art school. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaojen 1,571 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Excuse me, but how can they grade you on an opinion piece. Not everyone has the same idol or idea of what constitutes as art. As long as you have a good heartfelt explanation, them failing you would be a bias and that is not morally right. I am am Elementary teacher, this disgusts me from a teacher's perspective. As long as there is a good explanation and validity to it, it being considered 'wrong' is the most wrong of all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkBalloons 0 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 A lot of art teachers are known to hate Lady Gaga, some are open about it because Gaga proves a point in relation to their material. It's nothing new. Even Koons or Abramovitch are not considered as artists by some of my teachers. Most of them think Koons is a troll/buisnessman and Marina is a copycat. I would never talk about Gaga in my classes, she just isn't legitimate. Even if we consider Gaga like a performance-artist, her statements are just old, she would have been a great artist in the 70s... but today... she brings nothing new to the art world at all. I'm not saying her point of view isn't interesting, but she can't be considered as a comtempory artist... Yes. Thank you clarifying :) Only Gaga's orbit dress borders original and highly creative standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMATICA 2020 477 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 my art teacher from when i was in high school said that lady gaga (and other pop singers) were satanic and illuminati. Then she questioned me and my religion oh and it was around the Judas era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Gaga is a visual artist. Exactly. I made this video to illustrate just that. http://vimeo.com/100648495 I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battle 4 Ur Life 6,716 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 WHAT????????????? ok, let's go through it. 1) sorry but your art teachers suckkkkkkkkk assssssss. Tell them she has more personality than they because she understands that everyone is different and she doesn't need to be judgemental of others to feel happy about herself and believe in herself. and she has always stood for her art and her fans, even when a mediocre society (including them) prefers to judge her for what she looks like. If I was you I'd tell them they are shallow and uncultured swines! 2) if they fail you, you can sue them or appeal to anyone and you will WIN! because they can't fail you based on subjective opinions. you can totally go after them. If they failed me I wouldn't settle until I saw them fired. trust me, they don't have this right. 3) they are indeed stupid f*cks because there's no ecological harm in performing in space, aside from the pollution that might (or might not) be released from the flight, there's no ecological harm in this. ask them what kind of life exactly is she harming when performing in space. 4) finally, ask them what kind of degree do they have because they have the same opinion of highschool dropouts and housekeepers. “Fantastic, chic, freak, slay.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULTRARTPOP 0 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hopefully they fail you just for that so you can sue them and become rich and share some of the money with me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karandr 150 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hate to say it but to an art school, Lady Gaga probably represents a very shallow understanding of "high" art. I'm not saying she's not creative - because she is - but her work isn't the most fertile for discussion in terms of subtext or multiple interpretations. There's occasional imagery that has some symbolic meaning, but it's quite hamfisted and often riffs on cliches and other artists' work. (ie: did somebody say "pop culture"? let me put on a Marilyn Monroe wig. also, the cage represents being trapped. wow. edgy.) As well, most of what you see in Gaga videos is the cumulative effect of directors, choreographers, makeup artists, hair stylists, fashion designers, production designers, photographers, set designers ... creative people that are often namelessly giving their work to be shown under the banner of LADY GAGA. To an extent, she is the one who makes it happen, with a spark of an idea, a song, or an inspiration. But the brunt of the creative process for her visual work is not done by her. I'm saying this as someone who is a huge fan of Gaga, and also an avid visual art student. Gaga is a pop singer - a very creative one, but a pop singer. She is a celebrity. She says "**** you pop music" but she is still subject to its machinations. Arguably, she is an artist, but her primary art form is her music - songwriting and vocal abilities. If you were an aspiring singer, then she would be a tremendous inspiration. For a visual art student, you should (I'm not saying you must, but I recommend it) find an inspiration who is a more well-accepted member of the art community. Rachel Whiteread, Tracey Emin, Hannah Höch, Frida Kahlo -- all fantastic artists who have a wide variety of works that can be dissected, discussed and a--lysed on their merits as individual creations. I hope this hasn't been too harsh. EDIT: To summarise/clarify. Lady Gaga is a recording artist that offers an entry-level gateway to high visual art. It's like with food. You have basic level fast food - McDonalds, KFC, etc. Above that is the kind of places that are still chains and have mass production, but show more finesse, are more expensive, and offer a quasi-gourmet experience. Nando's, Grill'd (Australian burger chain, look it up if you need), and my impression is that Olive Garden kind of fits in here too (though I've never been.) On the top tier you have high-class restaurants with seatings and exceptional table service and a carefully selected and highly crafted menu. The middle level places are like a gateway to the too tier. In the art world, you could say that Lady Gaga sits in this middle tier -- certainly above most of her contemporaries on the radio, but not quite a Michelin star restaurant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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