xoxoJohnnyGaga 284 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Look i have no problem with her backing vocals in the chorus as i understand it is hard to sing and dance at the same time, BUT what i have noticed is they have gotten louder each tour: The Monster Ball - Gaga's mic was very loud and the backing vocals weren't very loud and we could clearly tell Gaga was singing completely live The Born This Way Ball - Gaga's mic is still loud but the backing vocals have gotten as loud as the mic artRAVE: The ARTPOP Ball - Gaga's mic seems to be lower and lead vocals have been added to the choruses for the first time example, Poker Face & Paparazzi Im not complaining as i know she is still singing with the backing but i thought i would point out the changes throughout her tours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interludicrous 15 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Look i have no problem with her backing vocals in the chorus as i understand it is hard to sing and dance at the same time, BUT what i have noticed is they have gotten louder each tour: The Monster Ball - Gaga's mic was very loud and the backing vocals weren't very loud and we could clearly tell Gaga was singing completely live The Born This Way Ball - Gaga's mic is still loud but the backing vocals have gotten as loud as the mic artRAVE: The ARTPOP Ball - Gaga's mic seems to be lower and lead vocals have been added to the choruses for the first time example, Poker Face & Paparazzi Im not complaining as i know she is still singing with the backing but i thought i would point out the changes throughout her tours There have been very few performances of Bad Romance or Telephone where her real voice was louder than her backing track, even at The Monster Ball. And even the pre-chorus of Applause - which isn't THAT hard to sing for her - mainly consists of backing vocals. Maybe it's just an insecurity of her? It's especially clear when she finishes a chorus with heavy backing track and then starts singing again during a verse. The tone of her voice oftentimes doesn't match that of the chorus. Whatever the reason is, it looks lazy and hypocritical of her to use backingtracks in places where she doesn't even need it. She has shown multiple times that she has the voice to sing those songs. I get that she needs to save her voice since she's doing so many shows, but I'd rather have less tour dates (or more spread out), than having her half-ass the vocals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit the frog 1,860 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 From the recordings I can only hear her in verses, the choruses sound like full playback :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxoJohnnyGaga 284 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 There have been very few performances of Bad Romance or Telephone where her real voice was louder than her backing track, even at The Monster Ball. And even the pre-chorus of Applause - which isn't THAT hard to sing for her - mainly consists of backing vocals. Maybe it's just an insecurity of her? It's especially clear when she finishes a chorus with heavy backing track and then starts singing again during a verse. The tone of her voice oftentimes doesn't match that of the chorus. Whatever the reason is, it looks lazy and hypocritical of her to use backingtracks in places where she doesn't even need it. She has shown multiple times that she has the voice to sing those songs. I get that she needs to save her voice since she's doing so many shows, but I'd rather have less tour dates (or more spread out), than having her half-ass the vocals. Yeah i get what you mean, maybe she's just become reliant on heavy backing vocals lately... but like you said, we all know she has the voice to sing certain songs like she could sing Paparazzi and Poker Face perfectly in the monster ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,067 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian5000 95 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 The things is, this is not a ArtRave problem, this is a Gaga problem. Just take videos from the BTWB, specially in Electric Chapel, or even Roseland, the backing vocals are MUCH louder than her voice I was at the Roseland show and you can hear her live vocals perfectly well :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interludicrous 15 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Yeah i get what you mean, maybe she's just become reliant on heavy backing vocals lately... but like you said, we all know she has the voice to sing certain songs like she could sing Paparazzi and Poker Face perfectly in the monster ball Actually I really dislike her performances of Poker Face on the Monster Ball when it comes to vocals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,899 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Good, I want all the people to see that she sings live better than anyone else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Adrenaline 1,518 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 You can't make any judgment based on fan recordings It's much more fun to have hizophrenia... u never get lonely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilneophytou 0 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 This topic is one that I have often thought about myself - and I agree, the backing tracks can often be misleading. It seems like they're relied upon more with her older stuff (Bad Romance, LoveGame, Poker Face etc) where her vocals were A LOT more produced than they are now. If you go back to older BR/LG/PF performances, where she was singing without backing vocals, as much as I hate to say it, she didn't sound that great :( - or perhaps it wasn't that she didn't sound great, she just didn't sound as good as the original tracks (again because they were all so much heavier produced than her current stuff). In my opinion, she started using backing tracks more and more in order to get closer to the studio version sound and it must have just snowballed from there. I almost don't blame her.... if she doesn't use them then people will accuse her of being a crap live vocalist and when she does use them, people accuse her of lip syncing. Cant please everyone :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcklighter22 2,314 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I agree and I love that some of the backing vocals are louder because they bring more to the song, but yes a good balance to not drown out her mic feed would be cool...i'm sure they will tweak it as the tour progresses tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggi 29 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Well this is definitely live and she sounds AMAZING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH2l0uHuQw4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS77 1,735 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Well this is definitely live and she sounds AMAZING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH2l0uHuQw4[/quote I'm certain that the audio from that is from the Fame Ball. The Washington D.C. date to be exact. Ahhh the days before backtrack became the norm for her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORRORHOLIC 68 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I 100% believe it should be illegal to charge fans for a "concert" while using background vocals or lip synching. 100% no exception. If you can't pull it off live, it isn't live, so don't advertise it as that. Unless you've come up with something where you can pull it off. Singing a few lines here and there while pre recorded vocals play is one thing. But isn't much different than lip syncing.Gaga fans should re watch thisLive "Mistakes And All" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q18QZiaA4Bg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterVlad 1,777 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Some of you didn't noticed but Applause pre-chorus, Swine and Aura choruses have all the vocals fron the studio version, not just backings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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