Lassex 1,169 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If I'm buying a cake from a past criminal, alleged or otherwise, I'm buying it because they're a damn good baker, their criminal record doesn't change that nor does that mean I somehow endorse whatever they did. Exactly But I still think it's pretty weird that she wants to work with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDONER 1,676 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 he's a creep and his work looks amateur and basic. most of the time he doesn't even shoot the photos himself since he's almost always on them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Exactly. It's never been proved in court afaik - the moment it his, feel free to hate him. But people have a habit of turning 'alleged rapists' into 'rapists'. Actually, it's not appropriate to call it rape anymore. All of the information is provided in the links - as proven in the R. Kelly case, just because something is blocked from court - it doesn't mean it's untrue and it doesn't mean they're not guilty. People who infallibly beleive in their legal/justice system scare me. Wake up, kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughdancy 282 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Actually, it's not appropriate to call it rape anymore. All of the information is provided in the links - as proven in the R. Kelly case, just because something is blocked from court - it doesn't mean it's untrue and it doesn't mean they're not guilty. People who infallibly beleive in their legal/justice system scare me. Wake up, kids. Sorry, I was using an example of how 'allegations' become 'facts' in people's minds, even before they're taken to court/verifiably proved. Terry hasn't been convicted of anything yet, and there are plenty of examples in the past where people have alleged that people have done stuff, only to have them proven fake. Edit: example: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/apr/03/law-graduate-falsely-accused-boyfriend-rape-assault-excuse-jury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Monk 0 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 his work is basic as **** he's got nothing on any of the other photographers gagas worked with anyone can take a pic in front of a white wall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holla 0 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 With the often provocative themes of his photos, it's easy to accuse of him of those kinda stuff. Still think he's a creep though. I remember seeing that pic of his dick and cringing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Sorry, I was using an example of how 'allegations' become 'facts' in people's minds, even before they're taken to court/verifiably proved. Terry hasn't been convicted of anything yet, and there are plenty of examples in the past where people have alleged that people have done stuff, only to have them proven fake. Edit: example: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/apr/03/law-graduate-falsely-accused-boyfriend-rape-assault-excuse-jury There is no doubt this is common. However, to give Terry the benefit of the doubt after years of allegations, publicy displayed behaviour and nasty comments, doesn't make much sense to me. Many in the industry know that all of these things cannot be a conspiracy or a coincidence - which is why journalists have devoted so much work to revealing these stories and why publications and various companies have refused to work with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meow 15 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I still have no idea why he's popular, or why his photographs are anything beyond average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughdancy 282 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 There is no doubt this is common. However, to give Terry the benefit of the doubt after years of allegations, publicy displayed behaviour and nasty comments, doesn't make much sense to me. Many in the industry know that all of these things cannot be a conspiracy or a coincidence - which is why journalists have devoted so much work to revealing these stories and why publications and various companies have refused to work with him. I'm sure that some of those previous allegations were well evidenced and backed up but this latest one is just a single, easily fake-able message via a single screenshot of someone's phone. The model, if they lied about this, would stand a lot to gain by doing this - they've already received tons of attention. I'm not saying that they're lying but one single screenshot of an easily fake-able notification is hardly proof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontbesweet 7 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I'm honestly shocked at the amount of people defending him. She needs to cut all ties. It's wrong on every level. His work isn't even that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haldy 1,258 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 He's a s-xual predator. He's not a rapist if they consent, but he's taking advantage of women who are trying to get into a highly competitive industry. Something Gaga's spoken about and opposes, even openly targets in Swine. I just don't know how so many celebtrities turn a bling eye to it... he's foul. Alleged or not, I'm certain he does it, just look at half his photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,404 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 So...may be, even if he really did it, now he's repentent and has moved on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosalina 612 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Look, what I'm about to say could be construed as offensive, but I don't know the man personally - for every person who has said he's a creep and a s-x offender, there's a person who has said he's great to work with. It's never actually been proven that Terry has ever committed these alleged offences: he's never been prosecuted for them and I reserve my judgement until it's been proven in a court of law. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Good points. I honestly feel like Gaga comes from a mindset of "well, people make up lies about me, so therefore this must be untrue too." I'm sure Terry is nothing but nice to Gaga and all other celebs (and established supermodels) so she's never going to see an unsavory side of him. Logically speaking she's not going to automatically ditch anyone she feels is a good friend and supporter of her work. As for the allegations: there's just been too many of them for there to not being something wrong IMO. So yes, it's unfortunate to see her associate with him. IA, there's such a discrepancy there, especially regarding Swine. However, I think she's the type that will stick by his side - she doesn't think Michael Jackson was guilty so this is unsurprising tbh. I do wish that she at least takes everything into consideration though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leninsdog 3 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 It disgusts me when people say his photography is good. He is SEXUALLY HARASSING people in work. Nothing can be good enough to balance that. Imagine it was you as a model or some other job. Would you like to be forced into s-x to become successful? I think these things have to change to make our societies a better place. He is a scumbag for degrading women. I will never understand why Gaga is even friends with him. It stands out everything she fought for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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