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PERFECT CELEBRITY: THE GHOST OF AN ALBUM BETRAYED By a fan who doesnât miss a single gdamn thing. Iâve been a fan since 2008. Iâve watched every era bloom and collapse, every shift in aesthetic, every intention, every pivot. I know when somethingâs real â and when itâs been repackaged, resold, and covered in a layer of false narrative. And what Iâm telling you is this: âMayhemâ was never meant to be âMayhem.â It was Perfect Celebrity. It was dark. It was cohesive. It was brutal. It was honest. And somewhere along the way, it was hijacked. THE LIE OF CHAOS They want you to believe âMayhemâ is about embracing chaos, multiplicity, fragmentation. But the truth? That fragmentation was never the plan. It was the damage. And instead of fixing the cracks, they called them art. Letâs talk about that mirror. The cover art â that shattered, gothic, broken collage â wasnât designed to represent âa million sonic versions of Gaga.â It was a scream. It was: I am a Perfect Celebrity. Iâve been made, broken, reconstructed. I am haunted by fame. It was pain. But then the project changed. Tracks were swapped, tones softened, the concept diluted. And now that broken mirror? Itâs sold to us as: âSee how diverse I am!â Bullshit. THE REAL ALBUM STILL BLEEDS THROUGH You can still hear it. In Perfect Celebrity, in disease, in the Beast, in Abracadabra, in Canât Stop the High, in Shadow of a Man, even in the quiet ache of Blade of Grass. They are the remnants of an album that was supposed to be a war on the industry, on image, on artificiality. But they were surrounded, watered down, dressed up in songs that Gaga herself almost didnât want in the album â like How Bad Do U Want Me, which Michael Polansky reportedly convinced her to keep. And donât get me started on Die With a Smile â a beautiful song, yes, but a standalone that got retrofitted into the storyline after it blew up. You know it. I know it. Gaga knows it. The rest is PR fiction. Lady Gaga literally said it in her Apple Music interview with Zane Lowe (late 2024): the album was originally called âPerfect Celebrity.â That track was the core of the concept, and she even considered re-producing the entire album to fit its electro-grunge tone. If youâre arguing against that, youâre arguing against what she herself admitted â on camera. The pivot happened. Thatâs not speculation, itâs documentation. The Visual Language Tells a Different Story The visual direction of the album â from the hyper-gothic photoshoot by Frank Lebon to the glitchy, eerie visualizers on YouTube â clearly reflects the darker tone of the original âPerfect Celebrityâ concept. The fragmented mirror aesthetic, the baroque horror fashion, even the visual teaser clips were created long before the final tracklist was settled. If the sound now feels disconnected from the imagery, itâs because the imagery was never meant for this version of the album. Narrative Retconning Is the Real Mayhem When a track like âDie With a Smile,â originally released as a standalone single, suddenly appears in the albumâs hypersticker and final tracklist â after it charts globally â thatâs not a vision. Thatâs a retrofit. And retrofitting narratives after fan or commercial response is a feature of todayâs post-Zeitgeist pop cycle. Mayhem became a marketing container for multiple ideas, but only one of them â âPerfect Celebrityâ â had conceptual integrity from the start. THE SXSW GAGA IS GONE â AND I MISS HER I was watching live when Gaga performed Swine at the South by Southwest Festival in 2014. I saw her scream: â**** YOU POP MUSIC, I WONâT PLAY BY YOUR ****ING RULES. THIS IS ARTPOP. FREE YOURSELF.â She had Millie Brown vomit paint on her body. She was fighting the machine. That was the last time I saw Gaga truly defy the industry. Since then, sheâs become a phoenix, yes â thanks to her immense talent, to jazz, to cinema, to Tony Bennett â but not the chaotic rebel I once admired on stage with Lady Starlight, wearing leather and glam and nothing but fire in her throat. Now? I see marketing in every shadow. I hear âentropyâ as an excuse. I see a shattered concept (Perfect Celebrity) that was transformed into Mayhem to cover the scars, not reveal them. That mirror wasnât meant to be beautiful. It was meant to cut. IâM TIRED OF THE POST-EDITED ART Iâm tired of albums being reshaped mid-campaign to adapt to audience reactions. Iâm tired of interviews rewriting history two months after reality. Iâm tired of fans being fed the illusion of chaos instead of the truth of concept betrayal. Lady Gaga has always â always â crafted concept albums. This is the first time the concept cracked. And they tried to sell the cracks as intention. I donât buy it. This isnât hate. This is heartbreak. And if you feel it too â if Mayhem left you wondering what couldâve been â youâre not crazy. Youâre just not buying the narrative. Perfect Celebrity still haunts this album. And I refuse to let them bury it. Here lies Perfect Celebrity: An album that breathed but was never born. It lived in photoshoots, in the granular edges of YouTube visuals, in hyperstickers printed before the truth changed. It spoke through electro-grunge screams, before the silence of marketing repainted its mouth. It was a concept. Not fragmented. Not chaotic. Whole. Angry. Surgical. Loud. Its ghost still lingers in the seams of Mayhem: A shattered mirror that was meant to reflect the destruction of fame, rebranded into an ode to diversity. A warning turned into wallpaper. It was betrayed â not by failure, but by adaptation. It was rewritten, reframed, restructured, as if its original message were too sharp for the skin of the moment. Lady Gaga conceived it. She even spoke its name. But the world wasnât ready. Or maybe, it was. The album was lost. But not forgotten. You can hear its pulse in th Beast, in Disease, in Canât Stop the High. You can see it in the shadow of a man, in the broken glass of a photoshoot, in the tension between image and sound. Let this post be its gravestone. And to those who still believe: We were not wrong. We were early. Perfect Celebrity â you never dropped. But you never died.25 points
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I just realised that with Mayhem she broke her streak of having a ma-ma-ma song in every album The Fame: ma-ma-ma-ma - Poker Face The Fame Monster: ma-ma-ma-Monster Born This Way: ma-ma-ma-Marry The Night ARTPOP: ma-ma-ma-MANiCURE Joanne: Come To Ma-ma (It doesn't really count but it's okay because Joanne was a step back from her 'Gaga' persona) Chromatica: oh-ma-ma-ma oh-ma-ma-ma - Alice Mayhem.. NOTHING Brazil I'm DEVASTATED23 points
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Interesting design choice to have the earliest time at the bottom when any normal person would read from top to bottom.20 points
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Little monsters always insist and obsess over an album instead of the one we actually got. It's been happening since ARTPOP17 points
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I don't have the energy to get into this type of discussion but happens with every album. Now that the release hype has cooled down, fans will try to analyze everything and the "what could have been" stuff will come up, theories about changed plans because once again they did not get the album they had in mind.17 points
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Random thought but this year not a lot of stuff is sticking and showing stability. Ariana also had a BIG fall yesterday. Sabrina is doing very meh with her deluxe edition. Chappell is clearly flopping with The Giver. Miley is having a 143 type of tankery. Just saying : let's be happy with Gaga's numbers on MAYHEM, Abra and Disease. Comparing, MAYHEM is actually one of the strongest releases in a long time. Let's keep on supporting and streaming !16 points
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If she considered "re-producing" the album to fit a concept, then that, by definition, wasn't the original concept. If anything VIY is the original concept, since it was the first song written for the album. little complainers are tiring.14 points
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I mean... She already said she went with a certain direction with Perfect Celebrity even being the first album title (grunge, industrial) - I remember she stated in the Zane Lowe interview she came to the studio saying they had to make the album sound like Perfect Celebrity but then changed her mind, not the other way around - but then followed other paths (funky) and decided to name the album MAYHEM because of that - and many other reasons -. I don't think it's that deep, it's just that as a fanbase we have kind of a trauma with other projects she intented to do in the past and didn't make the cut... That's it lmao And, to be honest, I'm glad she did. I was also in full mode ready to listen from start to finish industrial before the album dropped, but that would've been too over the top. She crafted an excellent body of work in the end. And also, as much as I love PC and it is one of my favorite ones on the album, I wouldn't have moved a bit if the whole narrative was focused on "the pain of being a celebrity" because let's be real, she has touched that topic many times before. Chromatica is the perfect example for that. Artistically speaking, I agree this is her first album not falling into the "concept album" idea (at least what we are used to from her). But is that bad?13 points
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I have to disagree. She clearly states that she didn't want Mayhem to become another "sound" or "vibe" like almost all of her previous outputs were. A solid concept can be great for the artist and the listener but there's a beauty and art to allow multitudes to exist. What will be more interesting to see is how she goes on after this project, she's stated that every tone on the album is the "tip of the iceberg". In life you have to accept the sum of all parts. Its more of a philosophy to stay abundant and happy.12 points
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Okay so to sum up she threw to the trash a whole album and dropped another direction because somehow she was forced to by her fiance and label because all of a sudden her power and status disappeared Yup yup I get it now12 points
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Because it has nothing to do with the aesthetic she's going for on these billboards.12 points
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âI didnât want her in the show but they forced me to add herâ is basically what he said lol sheâs good in the show tho, so who cares.11 points
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Spotify : #80 (-53) Azizam - Ed Sheeran : 1,733,286 #127 (-94) End of the World - Miley Cyrus : 1,420,21911 points
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Omg I never noticed this was a thing but suddenly I'm also devastated11 points
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She literally admitted that the idea of an album entirely similar to PC sonically crossed her mind but that in doing that would force herself to put on a character or outfit (forget her exact word choice) on the album, something she did for albums in the past but instead wanted Mayhem to feel organic, diverse and representative of her multifaceted persona as an artist and I think it accomplishes that so well. She honestly dedicated a good chunk of the album towards fan service songs ex: Disease, Abracadabra, Garden of Eden, Perfect Celebrity, Shadow of a Man. These are the undebatable ones imo.10 points
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"Lady Gaga has almost 1.1 TRILLION views from 46 million videos using her songs" Source10 points
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Die With a Smile had a huge day on spotify yesterdayđ biggest hit of all time! Some examples: USA: 8. (+2) DWAS UK: 8. (+7) DWAS GERMANY: 17. (+11) DWAS CANADA: 5. (+2) DWAS10 points
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it really is something that a font can take people away from the excitement that should be felt instead when seeing these billboards... sometimes it is really hard to understand you guys10 points
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Can you please stop acting like a therapist pretending you know what's in my mind by those comments? It's hard to read something so condescending and paternalistic like... It's getting ridiculous in a way but go off9 points
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the song is kinda forgettable mid-song, like it's a nice background song during a gathering with friends9 points
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spotify ⢠day 29 MAYHEM +14.5M cowboy carter +9.6M endless summer vacation +5.1M9 points
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âGarden of edenâ (45.2M) has surpassed Katy Perry's âi'm his, he's mineâ (45.1M) featuring Doechii in spotify streams despite being an album track released 1 month ago9 points
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Billboard 200: #9(-2) @ladygaga, MAYHEM 45,000 (390,000 units since release). *peak: #1*8 points
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Yeah, the OG argument conveniently neglects that Lady Gaga is 38 year old with agency. Not to mention that, in the Zane Lowe interview Gaga explicitly states that PC came along later in the cycle and what Michael discouraged her from doing was reworking pre-existing material that didnât fit the industrial/grunge theme into that theme. She wanted to retcon the grunge angle and that was what Michael, rightfully, discouraged her from doing.8 points
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Oh jeez, these comments. Any disagreement or opinion about her work/artistic direction is met with so much defensiveness and chagrin. OP clearly laid out his POV and backed it up with quotes directly from Gaga... he is not saying that she is controlled by her fiance, but it is a fact that Michael encouraged Gaga to stay on track and not lose sight of the amazing music that didn't fit the landscape of PC. Please read more carefully... debate is ruined by poor comprehension skills.8 points
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Didnt expect Miley and Ed to fall so hard, even though Eds music is not my taste. Kinda makes the performance of Abra and DWAS much more impressive8 points
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It's Katy Perry level of tank, but with playlisting To be honest let's be happy about MAYHEM, Abra and Disease numbers. Even Ariana is doing quite meh with her deluxe version8 points
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SPOTIFY ACHIEVEMENTS YESTERDAY (for 04.04.25) : Shallow crosses 2.721b streams (2,721,371,819) +952,891 DWAS crosses 2.230b streams (2,230,176,232) +6,352,931 Poker Face crosses 1.621b streams (1,621,459,591) +1,315,578 ARUTW crosses 1.541b streams (1,541,588,005) +945,137 Bad Romance crosses 1.476b streams (1,476,200,048) +1,022,999 Just Dance crosses 1.317b streams (1,317,704,290) +1,101,691 Paparazzi crosses 753m streams (753,111,994) +664,224 Born This Way crosses 693m streams (693,039,040) +329,877 Alejandro crosses 571m streams (571,138,759) +502,391 Sour Candy crosses 388m streams (388,078,057) +84,262 Abracadabra crosses 255m streams (255,136,740) +2,775,176 Disease crosses 195m streams (195,309,423) +748,548 Beautiful Dirty Rich crosses 64m streams (64,000,104) +26,180 Garden of Eden crosses 45m streams (45,230,072) +857,775 HBDUWM crosses 34m streams (34,512,589) +683,252 Vanish Into You crosses 32m streams (32,239,606) +593,939 How Bad Do U Want Me is now Gagaâs 91st (+3) most-streamed song, surpassing Come To Mama, Paper Gangsta and MANiCURE. LoveDrug is now Gagaâs 117th (+2) most-streamed song, surpassing Electric Chapel and The Lady Is A Tramp.8 points
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I'm obsessed, i think it is a sleeper hit8 points
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I need a list just for the sake of the meme. Things like this: - Americano (Mariachi Version) - Bad Kids (with the extra verse) - ARTPOP Act II - JWT DVD - Harlequin live show taping Things that were either promised/mentioned or that we know exist but will probably never see7 points
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I feel like I read this post each time she releases an album lol expectations and what ifs will be the death of you all7 points
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Also the second best selling album of the 21st century. 1. Adele 21-- 54M SPS 2. Gaga TF(M)-- 43M SPS 3. Taylor 1989-- 41M SPS7 points
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Itâs been like this for every album. Stop. Perfect Celebrity wasnât even the first thing she did for this album.7 points
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Lady Gaga's "The Fame Monster" becomes the 47th album in Spotify history to surpass 8 BILLION streams!7 points
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Ariana also falling hard 24 (-14) twilight zone 2,912,729 73 (-26) dandelion 1,812,477 159 (-41) intro 1,315,716 175 (-53) warm 1,271,994 185 (-66) hampstead 1,217,9877 points
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You guys keep perpetuating this narrative that Coachella will be this massive SuperBowl/Grammy promo that's going to reset the era, when in reality it won't boost the album/songs (or very minimal effect). I will personally blame you when people start meltdowning because the songs aren't surging after Coachella.7 points
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SPOTIFY ACHIEVEMENTS YESTERDAY (for 03.04.25) : Shallow crosses 2.720b streams (2,720,418,928) +933,422 DWAS crosses 2.223b streams (2,223,823,301) +6,337,065 Poker Face crosses 1.620b streams (1,620,144,013) +1,281,262 ARUTW crosses 1.540b streams (1,540,652,868) +933,759 Bad Romance crosses 1.475b streams (1,475,177,049) +1,007,879 Just Dance crosses 1.316b streams (1,316,602,599) +1,033,129 Telephone crosses 854m streams (854,154,164) +633,940 Judas crosses 756m streams (756,027,628) +766,530 Paparazzi crosses 752m streams (752,447,770) +653,571 Bloody Mary crosses 641m streams (641,204,732) +371,023 LoveGame crosses 503m streams (503,275,350) +376,131 Abracadabra crosses 252m streams (252,361,564) +2,776,036 Disease crosses 194m streams (194,560,875) +766,070 You And I crosses 192m streams (192,027,839) +79,747 Monster crosses 174m streams (174,024,828) +138,387 Starstruck crosses 62m streams (62,014,485) +43,640 Garden of Eden crosses 44m streams (44,372,297) +951,823 Shadow of a Man crosses 27m streams (27,485,466) +557,602 Zombieboy crosses 24m streams (24,375,075) +424,378 LoveDrug crosses 21m streams (21,313,098) +379,501 Killah crosses 20m streams (20,163,717) +343,041 Donât Call Tonight crosses 16m streams (16,194,701) +264,873 The Beast crosses 13m streams (13,172,666) +205,575 Garden of Eden is now Gagaâs 80th (+1) most-streamed song, surpassing 1000 Doves. Vanish Into You is now Gagaâs 98th (+3) most-streamed song, surpassing I Like It Rough, Top Gun Anthem (from Top Gun OST) and Rain On Me (Purple Disco Machine Remix). Donât Call Tonight is now Gagaâs 125th (+2) most-streamed song, surpassing Plastic Doll (Ashnikko Remix) and Darkstar (from Top Gun OST). Blade of Grass is now Gagaâs 139th (+3) most-streamed song, surpassing Close To You, Nature Boy and I Canât Give You Anything But Love. Killah becomes the 11th/14 MAYHEM tracks to reach 20m streams.7 points
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I really think itâs intentionally 50s/60s vibes with the font!7 points