N0LAN 0 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I think ARTPOP has the potential to become The Fame version 2 in terms of interest in sales. If Gaga releases another EP later this year (as has been strongly hinted), that combined with her ARTPOP tour could resurrect interest in ARTPOP as a whole, both the old and new. Gaga at Roseland really generated a lot of hype and excitement with both fans and the GP, and I think an EP with fresh material in addition to the tour will help just like TFM caused TF to the monumental success it was. The Fame was a great album, but TFM as an extension made the album a masterpiece. Perhaps Act II can do something similar. I like your way of thinking! Hoping for this as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus 298 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 shut up.. you guys only stopped worrying about the charts when gaga stopped. as fans were supposed to be looking out for Gagz best interest. and yeah, we do care about the charts. get the **** over it. and shut the **** up. I like the way you think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus 298 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I think ARTPOP has the potential to become The Fame version 2 in terms of interest in sales. If Gaga releases another EP later this year (as has been strongly hinted), that combined with her ARTPOP tour could resurrect interest in ARTPOP as a whole, both the old and new. Gaga at Roseland really generated a lot of hype and excitement with both fans and the GP, and I think an EP with fresh material in addition to the tour will help just like TFM caused TF to the monumental success it was. The Fame was a great album, but TFM as an extension made the album a masterpiece. Perhaps Act II can do something similar. The Fame had Just Dance and Poker Face. And even without the EP, The Fame alone sold 10M. And as we can see ARTPOP doesnt have its Just Dance or Poker Face. It doesnt even have a song that could be as big as Paparazzi. ARTPOP Act 2( if its an EP) will do nothing good for the ARTPOP LP. It will do even worse than the first. And if Act 2 can revive ARTPOP this would happen ONLY if Act 2 has a mega hit like Bad Romance or Poker Face Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,123 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 ARTPOP is a flawless album. If you need good chart to confirm that for you then.. Quite simply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 why did you have to post this? if it depresses you, no need to depress others by spreading it This The Fame had Just Dance and Poker Face. And even without the EP, The Fame alone sold 10M. And as we can see ARTPOP doesnt have its Just Dance or Poker Face. It doesnt even have a song that could be as big as Paparazzi. ARTPOP Act 2( if its an EP) will do nothing good for the ARTPOP LP. It will do even worse than the first. And if Act 2 can revive ARTPOP this would happen ONLY if Act 2 has a mega hit like Bad Romance or Poker Face Applause says hello Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little7Monster 0 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Regardless of what Gaga saids about the charts--and frankly, they were very important to everyone until Gaga said something about it, now everyone thinks they're useless--but for her to continue making music, she has to perform well. No company is going to fund her creativity if she can't push records. Charts reflect how good the music is with the public, and sadly the public is bigger than the main fan base. Charts will continue to matter if Gaga wants to have a record deal. Speaking out about the charts was to tell fans to stop watching the charts, and start listening to music. She wants you to enjoy the music not based on a number. Which is great, but it has to perform well, it is indicative of who the audience is, and how many people are buying albums/tickets to the tour. ARTPOP is a good album, but fan/media/Gaga hype, in addition to the almost four month wait killed its performance. People do not retain attention for that long. It has to be a quick release, only a month or two between first single and release. I do believe that it has killed the ARTPOP momentum, and I believe it is reflecting with Act II news. The label and Gaga are probably debating whether to retain the ARTPOP name in the next release, or create a new title to distance itself, because if someone didn't buy Act I, they are very unlikely to buy Act II. It is a business, and she has to sell. There is an Act II, and the only thing holding it back is likely her team debating the name, and how to market it. Personally, I think if she does an "Act II', it shouldn't be "ARTPOP Act II", it should be something like "POPTECH" or another name similar to that, so it is still similar to ARTPOP, but its own release. And I think it should be an EP, not an LP, or she will look like she is admitting that ARTPOP didn't match the hype, and it was a failure. It was not a failure, and it was a good album, but it is a thin line to walk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Kunst 0 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Regardless of what Gaga saids about the charts--and frankly, they were very important to everyone until Gaga said something about it, now everyone thinks they're useless--but for her to continue making music, she has to perform well. No company is going to fund her creativity if she can't push records. Charts reflect how good the music is with the public, and sadly the public is bigger than the main fan base. Charts will continue to matter if Gaga wants to have a record deal. Speaking out about the charts was to tell fans to stop watching the charts, and start listening to music. She wants you to enjoy the music not based on a number. Which is great, but it has to perform well, it is indicative of who the audience is, and how many people are buying albums/tickets to the tour. Every time this comes up I have to point out that plenty of musicians and bands continue to exist without reaching or even approaching the extremely high chart/sales standards this fan-base tends to hold Gaga to. Many musicians have entire careers and they never chart at all. Maybe she will eventually transition to be a smaller act like one of them, and that would mean making budget sacrifices but even in that case she can still continue to make music and have her projects funded. If you guys only pay attention to music that's "relevant" to the charts then you're missing out on a lot. The charts were never important to me, for one, so please don't generalize like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairypig 0 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 As long as she's able make awesome tours in arenas all over the world, I don't really give a sh*t about if she's on the charts. I've noticed that the only people who really gives a damn about it and makes a lot of fuzz are hardcore stans which, imo, have no lives anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatfoxyfeeling 13,017 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Gaga defiantly reminds me of Cyndi Lauper, she will continue to make music even if it isn't commercial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence 235 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 shut up.. you guys only stopped worrying about the charts when gaga stopped. as fans were supposed to be looking out for Gagz best interest. and yeah, we do care about the charts. get the **** over it. and shut the **** up. lol but if you value how much you like music based on charts that's pathetic :smh: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glow 0 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 you're hot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little7Monster 0 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Every time this comes up I have to point out that plenty of musicians and bands continue to exist without reaching or even approaching the extremely high chart/sales standards this fan-base tends to hold Gaga to. Many musicians have entire careers and they never chart at all. Maybe she will eventually transition to be a smaller act like one of them, and that would mean making budget sacrifices but even in that case she can still continue to make music and have her projects funded. If you guys only pay attention to music that's "relevant" to the charts then you're missing out on a lot. The charts were never important to me, for one, so please don't generalize like that. I'm not saying that if she doesn't chart/chart high enough she won't exist, but her current system is pricey. She won't be able to afford her current production status if she doesn't make a return. Many musicians do not chart, you are right, but most aren't giant pop acts like Gaga. Gaga is held to an extremely high standard, one that even her competitors aren't held too, yet they place them in the same category. It is sad that the media and social networking does that to her when all she is trying to do is have fun. And as you said, I could also see her transitioning into a niche musician if the public continue in the route they're in with her. I hope she remains big, and I'm sure she will, but she is in a very tough point in her career. Yes, the charts aren't indicative of good music. Gaga has proved that, as have countless musicians, so I completely agree there. Charts are just a good survey of how popular something/someone is. I understand that not "everyone" cared/cares about the charts, and I didn't mean to generalize, but at some point most people were concerned with how songs performed. A song can't "slay" at number 400. A lot of people on here will repeat whatever Gaga says as if it was their though since birth just to agree with her. Gaga cared about the charts, that is how she got where she is. They are not indicative of performance/quality, but Gaga's persona used to be fame-obsessed, she wanted to be at the top of the charts. With ARTPOP and criticisms of her, she said to stop looking at the charts and listen to the music, which is a great concept. They don't matter, and there are some awful songs at the top of the charts, and the best at the bottom, or nonexistent. But anyway, I really am sorry that what I said was upsetting, and that I generalized people. I was just stating a long train of thoughts I typed as I thought. I know the charts don't matter, and some of the best music isn't on them (and some is), but to maintain the current lifestyle performance is important to the business funding her. A label doesn't want to spend their money on someone that isn't selling well. And Gaga is, but not to the standard they currently hold her to, which is very unfair. I think Gaga will get through this, and get back to a more steady pace now that her turmoil within the Haus is apparently resolved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryTheNight 35 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 This. ARTPOP is a flawless album. If you need good chart to confirm that for you then.. I completely agree and i never usually care about the charts, i dont need gaga to slay or anything but its just such a shame that its not doing well because yes its a flawless album and GUY is a flawless song, i just get pissy that people are paying it dust and all these basic poorly written songs are slaying and her great work just goes unnoticed. Ugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geopang 4,831 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 So you're done with ARTPOP because of its commercial performance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane 208 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 i find it funny your telling people to get over not caring about the charts when youve made a ****ing thread to complain. Of course we care about the charts, but its different than being 'kinda done with ARTPOP now' because a single didnt do well Why dont you take your own advice 'get the **** over it. and shut the **** up' This so much. OP, you sound like you wanna move on, but most of us haven't. Stream it or request it on your local radio stations like the rest of us or move on, but please, spare us your Little Manager b---hfit. Love Trumps Hate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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