Hermes 0 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Get dat aluminium certification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty 87 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Isn't the 2.3m shipments? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toph 374 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I don't know how this is a flop when tons of artists would kill to sell this amount of records. This, I totally agree with you. Of course there are people on this forum (and in the world) who choose to believe that this is a flop by asserting "by Gaga's standards". Um, Gaga standards? This is a girl that has worked her ass off from the ground up on the new york city underground pub/bar scene. Yet some of the people use this as an excuse to further belittle the accomplishment and punish her for ARTPOP. I don't get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
degenerate 526 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Not 500,000 people returning their copies of ARTPOP I didn't know you could return CD's... *runs to my car* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Isn't the 2.3m shipments? No. IFPI said sales, if you wanna take that to mean as shipments be my guest but you'd think IFPI would have said: SHIPMENTS or SOLD TO RETAILERS if that were the case. Arturo and Mills spilling the tea here :trootea: Where were you naysayers when IFPI numbers were considered as real sold copies in previous years? Nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyPrince 237 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 People are just calling her a flop because she doesn't have the cultural pull she had back in 2009-2011. Watching her numbers, she's about on track. The Fame sold 15 million WW, BTW sold 6 million WW, ARTPOP sells 2.3 million WW. It's actually pretty consistent. Had ARTPOP's sales followed The Fame, yes, that is a HUGE dip. People just call her a flop because she's not as big as she used to be and of course, she doesn't sell how she used to. And yet Gaga at her worst is on par with her contemporaries at their peak. Who mad now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 ArtFLOP. Music - not the charts (at all). MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Space 0 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 2.3 is the number Universal Music Group reported This 1.8 number is from Mediatraffic, a site run by avid chart followers Take that as you will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 47,623 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 These are decent numbers. Yeah this may not have been her best selling record, but considering how bad other artists do and how much worse she could be doing, her low point really isn't that low in the grand scheme of things.ummmm its pretty bad comparing to typical album sales of other major starts Beyonce, Eminem, Taylor Swift, Even Katy Perry they never had albums sell this little WW not even close The only ones with this few album sales of the major stars that ever get album sales this poor is maybe Rihanna. And Mileys new album aparently is flopping too although i dont know the numbers Yeah its not as bad as it can get when you look at Christinas "Bionic" or "Lotus" but still, its pretty bad It also comfirms my suspicions that people have always over-estimated the size of Gagas hardcore loyal fan base. A significant part of her fan base was obviously just casual fans that come and go and when she doesnt succeed in charts with singles, her album sales are affected :shrug: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris777 112 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 ummmm its pretty bad comparing to typical album sales of other major starts Beyonce, Eminem, Taylor Swift, Even Katy Perry they never had albums sell this little WW not even close The only ones with this few album sales of the major stars that ever get album sales this poor is maybe Rihanna. And Mileys new album aparently is flopping too although i dont know the numbers Yeah its not as bad as it can get when you look at Christinas "Bionic" or "Lotus" but still, its pretty bad It also comfirms my suspicions that people have always over-estimated the size of Gagas hardcore loyal fan base. A significant part of her fan base was obviously just casual fans that come and go and when she doesnt succeed in charts with singles, her album sales are affected but even A Girl Like Me sold more than ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 but even A Girl Like Me sold more than ARTPOP it wasn't the same period Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklistedd 599 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 ummmm its pretty bad comparing to typical album sales of other major starts Beyonce, Eminem, Taylor Swift, Even Katy Perry they never had albums sell this little WW not even close The only ones with this few album sales of the major stars that ever get album sales this poor is maybe Rihanna. And Mileys new album aparently is flopping too although i dont know the numbers Yeah its not as bad as it can get when you look at Christinas "Bionic" or "Lotus" but still, its pretty bad It also comfirms my suspicions that people have always over-estimated the size of Gagas hardcore loyal fan base. A significant part of her fan base was obviously just casual fans that come and go and when she doesnt succeed in charts with singles, her album sales are affected The part I bolded was a given, not to mention the fact that pop fans are incredibly fickle. I think the only people that overestimated the size of her loyal fanbase have always been the media and those that just buy into everything they read. I mean anyone with a brain knows how fickle pop fanatics are and she was a new act. That being said, I think its pretty true that a lot of people have been conditioned not to like her in recent years though. As for her album sales being pretty bad, I don't really agree. Katy Perrys first record didn't sell that well and Teenage Dream was a consistent seller but not a big seller. Mileys album isn't exactly blockbuster in terms of amounted money either and certainly not Britneys. Certainly not Ke$ha's last foray. As I said, in the grand scheme of things, of her pop peers, yeah ARTPOP isn't top of her game clearly, but its not like its genuinely terrible. If she were pulling Warrior, Britney Jean, Lotus, Bionic numbers than sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklistedd 599 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 but even A Girl Like Me sold more than ARTPOP Granted, the way they tallied sales back then was different than how they do it now. You'd have to translate the way they added **** up back then in comparison to how they tally it up now to know how much worse off ARTPOP is than A Girl Like Me. If you really want to get into it though, A Girl Like Me did have SOS and Unfaithful which were both pretty big hits. Even if that album is always seen as one of her weaker records it did spawn 2 commercially successful singles whereas ARTPOP did not. But theres several reasons as to why that is, its hard to compare Rihanna to Gaga because Gaga is clearly more scrutinized and significantly less favored by the media of whom feeds a perception for the public to have about these artists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 ummmm its pretty bad comparing to typical album sales of other major starts Beyonce, Eminem, Taylor Swift, Even Katy Perry they never had albums sell this little WW not even close Yeah pic the ONE rapper that sells huge everywhere. Bet she beat Kanye and Jay Z's last albums. How many country stars besides Swiftie or R&B acts besides Beyonce can top that? Remember albums sales keep dropping due to downloading and streaming. Being popular outside Anglo world, Germany, and Japan doesn't get you many sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 And Mileys new album aparently is flopping too although i dont know the numbers Well, it's sold about 300,000-400,000 more copies in the US and produced a #2 and #1 single, a video with 640,000,000+ views, and her weakest single peaked at 21. Let's not call her a flop if we don't want Gaga's latest album being called a flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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