MessyTop 14,311 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I stand here waiting for you to bang the gong To crash the critic saying, "Is it right or is it wrong?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic 1,415 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 WELL SHE DOES SING, MY ARTPOP COULD MEAN ANYTHING SO Thats all we know yes. But how she wants to build an memorable era on it? Till now in terms of theme it fails. That causes fan criticism often and whether she lurks or not it will affect her. But yeah I can partially understand her, it's not easy to take so much criticism at once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris777 112 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I love Gaga but she's not the only artist that gets **** from her own fans. she pays way too much attention to what everybody thinks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Is the negativity overdramatic? SURE. Is none of it true? Definitely not. Could she learn from it? Yes. Should she learn from it? I hope she will. Does she learn from it? Doesn't seem like it. learn what? How a bunch of fans think that Gaga should approach her art and career? She doesn't need to "learn" that, because her goals are not the same as a bunch of fans that all have their own little picture perfect view of Gaga in their heads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geopang 4,831 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Gaga is right There are too many dramas here. Its digusting how these "fans" shade gaga so much on this website.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,311 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I love Gaga but she's not the only artist that gets **** from her own fans. she pays way too much attention to what everybody thinks Specially when she let's super fans talk on her behalf. Mess. We need a real tweet or a press release Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris777 112 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Gaga not visiting GGD only supports the theory that she would rather surround herself with yes-men and yasss-twinks rather than face criticism. I get that some members go too far with their meltdowns, but there are a lot that have constructive criticism too. If her largest fansite is displeased with the era, that should be setting off alarms that what she's doing isn't working. Not all of this "negativity" is because her sales or chart positions are underwhelming. Maybe some fans aren't happy with the quality of her work? And the hypocrisy of saying "stan for Katy" and "stop the drama" in the same status She needs to learn to accept criticism. She can't just drown out all negativity. This era has been a mess from the start, and while the music is great, she can't just fire everyone who speaks up. The Katy part was unnecessary. this is exactly what i think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 104,546 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 But Gaga was the one who said "If you dont have any shadows you' re not in the light." And now she is rejecting the criticism? As for Emma's decision well she have her own decision and I respect that. But doesn't it a little ironic that she must typed the "go stand for Katy" lines when she preaching about online love, hm?? :usrs: (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚜𝚝𝚛𝚎𝚗𝚐𝚝𝚑 𝚝𝚘 𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚊𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎 (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauramonster 267 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) I'm starting to be really tired of all this "how a real fan should act" stuff. Sorry but I'm not going to praise everything she does to make her happy, she needs the critics to learn and grow. Things like the DWUW video are just unprofessional. And I'm not living for the video, I have loads of things to do these days, but she's a professional musician and she should know how to respect timelines. And at the end... it's her career so her decisions only affect her but since I love her I really hope she learns to accept critics and learn from her mistakes. I love her but I'm going to express my own opinion always, negative or not. Edited December 24, 2013 by lauramonster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,102 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 hew gives a ****? we just want the video. as fans who have supported her through it all, we have the RIGHT to demand STANDARD things such as a video for your 2nd single. Why isn't she telling us anything about it? If it's delayed, then LEAST she can ****ing do is tweet "hold the **** up, it's coming before the year ends" or SOMETHING, a CONCRETE date. I love Gaga and I love ARTPOP but she's ****ing messy. She has all the potential in the world but she doesn't take advantage. Where's that ambition? That professionalism? smh, we're just ****ing tired of stanning for an artist that isn't on top of her game. Enough is enough. Why is she living in a cloud? "stop the negativity" - no. the negativity won't EVER end. The best thing she could do is acutally TAKE IN the criticism and do something about it so her FANBASE stops turning on her. Yes, her fanbase. Those are the people that matter, not the rest of the bitter ass haters. You all can hate the **** on it. So so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairofhk 906 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Ok, sorry, but people on here too often mislabel unfavorable opinions about something Gaga does as "negativity." Like, as fans, each of us has the right to say if we dislike something that Gaga does. I feel like too many of you just call people who do this "negative" - all they're doing is being honest. Of course I'm not trying to say that it's ok to be negative all the time, but the reality is that people are bound to dislike things. And they have a right to express their opinions. And sorry to say, but Gaga has just been really confusing as of late with her mixed, contradictory messages and weird behavior. Just sayin. Of course I dont want her to feel ****ty, but at the same time, she needs to like grow some skin or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) Ok, sorry, but people on here too often mislabel unfavorable opinions about something Gaga does as "negativity." Like, as fans, each of us has the right to say if we dislike something that Gaga does. I feel like too many of you just call people who do this "negative" - all they're doing is being honest. Of course I'm not trying to say that it's ok to be negative all the time, but the reality is that people are bound to dislike things. And they have a right to express their opinions. And sorry to say, but Gaga has just been really confusing as of late with her mixed, contradictory messages and weird behavior. Just sayin. Of course I dont want her to feel ****ty, but at the same time, she needs to like grow some skin or something. There isn't anything wrong with having different opinion and being negative it's just people are sick of the ones that are always negative. There are members I see on here on here everyday that overly bash Gaga for everything and they write it off as constructive criticism. I can name about ten off the top of my head that are always negative. Edited December 24, 2013 by Stefani328 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomits her mind 0 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 And right now there are people complaining in the Radio ARTPOP thread because we plan on pointing out negativity tonight. I didn't see these statuses either, so thank you for this thread. I think thats a really good idea. People will complain about anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geopang 4,831 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 There isn't anything wrong with having different opinion and being negative it's just people are sick of the ones that are always negative. There are members I see on here on here everyday that overly bash Gaga for everything and they write it off as constructive criticism. I can name about ten off the top of my head that are always negative. Girl, i agree 100% i could i probably name the same ten youre thinking of in your head tbh. Some people on this site are so annoying.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMarty 96 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Well, if nothing else, this accomplished some of the most insane meltdowns on ATRL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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