Whispering 18,865 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 last year everybody expected us to have the last laugh in the katy vs gaga fight due to the tour. so many were saying 'yeah but she's still a touring act who people want to see no matter what'. most people expected her to gross 150 million AT LEAST. after june these expectations lowered to 100-110 million, then to 90-100 million and now 80-90 million. everybody last year wouldve bet their money on gaga grossing over 100 million. its so disappointing, and we shouldnt expect touring demand when theres no demand for the artist in general anymore till gaga actually becomes a legend (and she has quite a few years to go). A few =/= most There is no way I would have bet a dime on Gaga grossing a certain amount, especially some "magical" number a bunch of stans made up to be some goalpost for success. :roll: A few people here pulled this number out of the sky and pushed it daily for so long, they have others believing that 90 million is some kind of failure. If 90 million is disappointing, then Bruno and Pink had disappointing tours last year. Taylor Swift and Rihanna have only had one "successful" tour in all their years. Miley outright failed...she might as well stop music all together. Cher shouldn't have ever done a tour. In fact, 99% of all the tours over the past few years should have never even happened, because they were all "disappointing". There isn't "demand" for anyone, outside of a few legacy acts, MJ's Immortal tour and about 3-5 current artists a year. Unless you are a legacy act or in those 3-5 current artists for any given year, you should just stay home....don't even attempt to go perform for your fans around the world...because there isn't enough demand and you are just a disappointing failure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster 2 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'd like it to gross over 100M because it's a good benchmark, but let's face it: There are only 79 shows in total. She'd need to gross over 1M per show in order to reach this. A poorly received album (don't even. We know it was) A shâ–‘t storm of bad press Dropping off the face of the earth for 6 months prior to the tour It was all against the Artrave from the start. It was never going to achieve that much. Ever. The only saving grace that the Artrave could've had would be a re-release of ARTPOP - but the album was so panned that it would've been career suicide. The realistic realization for this tour is that it had no business doing as well as it did with the odds stacked against it as they were. The little tour that could. I'm looking forward to her next tour, which I hope will be a Gaga tour and not a tour like this one which lacks the Dramatic dark undertones that all her other tours had (The weird aura of blood, s-x & indie rock chic of TFB, The S&M, Drug abused, glamourous danger quality of TMB, The s-x-dungeon-meets-rapunzel-meets-Stadium-rock-goddess quality of TBTWB). Hopefully after the rebuilder that was C2C, we'll have a wiser Gaga. A More organized team and a tour that'll make all fans proud, regardless of their intention. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slojo 51 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 A few =/= most There is no way I would have bet a dime on Gaga grossing a certain amount, especially some "magical" number a bunch of stans made up to be some goalpost for success. :roll: A few people here pulled this number out of the sky and pushed it daily for so long, they have others believing that 90 million is some kind of failure. If 90 million is disappointing, then Bruno and Pink had disappointing tours last year. Taylor Swift and Rihanna have only had one "successful" tour in all their years. Miley outright failed...she might as well stop music all together. Cher shouldn't have ever done a tour. In fact, 99% of all the tours over the past few years should have never even happened, because they were all "disappointing". There isn't "demand" for anyone, outside of a few legacy acts, MJ's Immortal tour and about 3-5 current artists a year. Unless you are a legacy act or in those 3-5 current artists for any given year, you should just stay home....don't even attempt to go perform for your fans around the world...because there isn't enough demand and you are just a disappointing failure. Steady on it's not normal to start introducing logic and common sense into a GGD thread :) That aside I would agree with everything you say Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VersaceKing 419 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Do you think Gaga would actually film the artRAVE and make a DVD of it? There's only 19 shows left Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Do you think Gaga would actually film the artRAVE and make a DVD of it? There's only 19 shows left Hopefully London Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malazam 15,710 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I'd like it to gross over 100M because it's a good benchmark, but let's face it: There are only 79 shows in total. She'd need to gross over 1M per show in order to reach this. A poorly received album (don't even. We know it was) A shâ–‘t storm of bad press Dropping off the face of the earth for 6 months prior to the tour It was all against the Artrave from the start. It was never going to achieve that much. Ever. The only saving grace that the Artrave could've had would be a re-release of ARTPOP - but the album was so panned that it would've been career suicide. The realistic realization for this tour is that it had no business doing as well as it did with the odds stacked against it as they were. The little tour that could. I'm looking forward to her next tour, which I hope will be a Gaga tour and not a tour like this one which lacks the Dramatic dark undertones that all her other tours had (The weird aura of blood, s-x & indie rock chic of TFB, The S&M, Drug abused, glamourous danger quality of TMB, The s-x-dungeon-meets-rapunzel-meets-Stadium-rock-goddess quality of TBTWB). Hopefully after the rebuilder that was C2C, we'll have a wiser Gaga. A More organized team and a tour that'll make all fans proud, regardless of their intention. Festivals doesn't count /74 shows... another shot before we kiss the other side Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Unicorn 82 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Festivals doesn't count /74 shows... 75 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
somechick 1 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 TOTAL: $61,974,799 Nothing to sneeze at. Most of us wish we'd see 1/100th of that amount in not even a whole year of work. ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Do you think Gaga would actually film the artRAVE and make a DVD of it? There's only 19 shows left I really really hope she does because despite everything - this tour slays! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Can't wait for the UK crowds Oh. There is a limit line. Edited October 15, 2014 by ViviLittleM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayhan 7 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 every show has a limit line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Why the line is so advanced every show has a limit line. In Europe for some, no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biagio2103 6,153 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 No boxscore this week for Gaga, but Katy... I'm only good at being bad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) No boxscore this week for Gaga, but Katy... Oh. I see the boxscores from last week again. Can you please write the katy ones with a spoiler? Edited October 15, 2014 by ViviLittleM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma princess 0 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 OCTOBER 17 - DUBLIN - 3Arena - TICKETS AVAILABLE - 10,000+/14,500 (70%) This is in like 3 days and.. The most irrelevant acts can sell out one date at the 3arena easily Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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