ViviLittleM 3 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Back earlier this year, Arthur Fogel said that the ArtRave had already gross $26 million for 28 shows in North America and it was 80% sold. Lets say it's now at 100% So it means she will gross around $1,2 million per American show. So for the 35 N.A. shows she will gross around $45 million. For the European leg, yes the tickets are higher but the venues are generally smaller. Let's say she will gross around 1,3 million per show. So for the 30 shows in Europe, she will gross around $40 million. If you add the remaining 9 other shows in Oceania and Asia, she will gross maybe another $20 million. So the ARTRAVE will gross (to date) around $105 million. 900 000 - 1 M for the American shows Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini 103 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 900 000 - 1 M for the American shows Maybe, right. Some shows will gross $0,9 million and other $1,2 million. It will turns around that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Tokyo: 12M (2 dates). Japanese Yen has small deflation, so ticket prices remain around 200$/ticket like with the BTWB. Seoul: Doesn't count for the gross I think? It'll probably gross 8M tho Dubai: 8M Athens: 4M Istanbul: 5M if sold out I think total: 37M (if Seoul counts). Athens has average ticket price of 80~90$, but she probably will sell out the expensive tickets while the cheapest tickets will remain unsold for a big part. So if she has a 40k attendance, it's likely that the average ticket price is 90$+. Back earlier this year, Arthur Fogel said that the ArtRave had already gross $26 million for 28 shows in North America and it was 80% sold. Lets say it's now at 100% So it means she will gross around $1,2 million per American show. So for the 35 N.A. shows she will gross around $45 million. For the European leg, yes the tickets are higher but the venues are generally smaller. Let's say she will gross around 1,3 million per show. So for the 30 shows in Europe, she will gross around $40 million. If you add the remaining 9 other shows in Oceania and Asia, she will gross maybe another $20 million. So the ARTRAVE will gross (to date) around $105 million. Those 80% included the expensive tickets mostly, because Ring 1 and VIP tickets sell out first and then Ring 2 (cheap tickets) takes a while to sell out. And next to that, the leg will probably have 90~95% attendance (actual attendance, not the capacities/attendance LiveNation reports). 1M/date seems doable, unless the Quebec Festival counts for the gross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 30M-35M then. Also in Europe her ticket prices are higher. It depends on capacities and how many tickets will be sold. Japan and Dubai can push the numbers a little higher, but South Korea, Greece and Turkey are open questions. Last time when she performed in South Korea she made 3m on that date. It can happen, but its more likely she wont get there. 25m sounds more realistic. How the ticket prices are higher in Europe? I just checked Amsterdam date and the priciest ticket is 129 $. Thats 70$ less than the priciest regular ticket in NA and I saw that Hamburg and Paris also have cheaper tickets. There are probably dates where they have higher prices, but it looks like the things will regulate themself and wont go so different from NA. The difference can be made on how many tickets she sold. Maybe they are more, but I will say she will make 1,2 m per night in Europe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini 103 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Tokyo: 12M (2 dates). Japanese Yen has small deflation, so ticket prices remain around 200$/ticket like with the BTWB. Seoul: Doesn't count for the gross I think? It'll probably gross 8M tho Dubai: 8M Athens: 4M Istanbul: 5M if sold out I think total: 37M (if Seoul counts). Athens has average ticket price of 80~90$, but she probably will sell out the expensive tickets while the cheapest tickets will remain unsold for a big part. So if she has a 40k attendance, it's likely that the average ticket price is 90$+. Ticket prices for Tokyo was $200 back in 2012 only because it was in an arena. It's a big arena, but it's indoor. Now she plays in open stadiums. The average ticket price will be around $150. So 60,000 X 150 = $9 million. In Istanbul, the stadium has a capacity of nearly 30,000 for concert. If she gross $5 million for 30,000 it would means she has an average ticket price of $175 for a show in Istanbul. It's simply impossible. Madonna had an average of $128 previous time she went there. $8 million for Dubai seems way to high. She will gross there around $5 million at its best. Don't forget it's a single show, yes the prices are high but it's not simply as making an average of the prices. It's proportion. If the lowest prices represent 60% of the venue, the average price will be lower. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini 103 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Tokyo: 12M (2 dates). Japanese Yen has small deflation, so ticket prices remain around 200$/ticket like with the BTWB. Seoul: Doesn't count for the gross I think? It'll probably gross 8M tho Dubai: 8M Athens: 4M Istanbul: 5M if sold out I think total: 37M (if Seoul counts). Athens has average ticket price of 80~90$, but she probably will sell out the expensive tickets while the cheapest tickets will remain unsold for a big part. So if she has a 40k attendance, it's likely that the average ticket price is 90$+. Those 80% included the expensive tickets mostly, because Ring 1 and VIP tickets sell out first and then Ring 2 (cheap tickets) takes a while to sell out. And next to that, the leg will probably have 90~95% attendance (actual attendance, not the capacities/attendance LiveNation reports). 1M/date seems doable, unless the Quebec Festival counts for the gross. I live in Quebec and this date will not be part of the tour. People pay their tickets to see more than 150 artists. Of course Gaga will touches a part of it, but not the tour. It's part of a festival. But when Madonna went here, it was a show part of her tour. She brings 70,000 people grossing $8 million so this $8 million was part of the final gross numbers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I want that Quebec gross so bad, she is one of the lead acts, please Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespertine 3 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Tokyo: 12M (2 dates). Japanese Yen has small deflation, so ticket prices remain around 200$/ticket like with the BTWB. Seoul: Doesn't count for the gross I think? It'll probably gross 8M tho Dubai: 8M Athens: 4M Istanbul: 5M if sold out I think total: 37M (if Seoul counts). Athens has average ticket price of 80~90$, but she probably will sell out the expensive tickets while the cheapest tickets will remain unsold for a big part. So if she has a 40k attendance, it's likely that the average ticket price is 90$+. Those 80% included the expensive tickets mostly, because Ring 1 and VIP tickets sell out first and then Ring 2 (cheap tickets) takes a while to sell out. And next to that, the leg will probably have 90~95% attendance (actual attendance, not the capacities/attendance LiveNation reports). 1M/date seems doable, unless the Quebec Festival counts for the gross. i believe seoul does count since she's the only performer at the venue that night . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayhan 8 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Ticket prices for Tokyo was $200 back in 2012 only because it was in an arena. It's a big arena, but it's indoor. Now she plays in open stadiums. The average ticket price will be around $150. So 60,000 X 150 = $9 million. In Istanbul, the stadium has a capacity of nearly 30,000 for concert. If she gross $5 million for 30,000 it would means she has an average ticket price of $175 for a show in Istanbul. It's simply impossible. Madonna had an average of $128 previous time she went there. $8 million for Dubai seems way to high. She will gross there around $5 million at its best. Don't forget it's a single show, yes the prices are high but it's not simply as making an average of the prices. It's proportion. If the lowest prices represent 60% of the venue, the average price will be lower. Madonna played in TT Arena (which is a Stadium too, but much higher capacity), not ITU Stadium. Gaga will gross at upmost $2.5m in Istanbul. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Unicorn 82 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Madonna played in TT Arena (which is a Stadium too, but much higher capacity), not ITU Stadium. Gaga will gross at upmost $2.5m in Istanbul. Gaga will gross around $3.5M if she sells out Istanbul. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini 103 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Madonna played in TT Arena (which is a Stadium too, but much higher capacity), not ITU Stadium. Gaga will gross at upmost $2.5m in Istanbul. This is what I said, it's impossible for Gaga to gross $5 million for her show in Istanbul. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Ticket prices for Tokyo was $200 back in 2012 only because it was in an arena. It's a big arena, but it's indoor. Now she plays in open stadiums. The average ticket price will be around $150. So 60,000 X 150 = $9 million. In Istanbul, the stadium has a capacity of nearly 30,000 for concert. If she gross $5 million for 30,000 it would means she has an average ticket price of $175 for a show in Istanbul. It's simply impossible. Madonna had an average of $128 previous time she went there. $8 million for Dubai seems way to high. She will gross there around $5 million at its best. Don't forget it's a single show, yes the prices are high but it's not simply as making an average of the prices. It's proportion. If the lowest prices represent 60% of the venue, the average price will be lower. That's right about Tokyo.. The cheapest tickets are 10000 Yen (100 USD) and the most expensive are 25000 Yen.. Probably 175$/ticket avg. Istanbul: I estimate a 4.2M USD gross if sold out. Just looked at the map and estimated how many tickets there were available for every price Dubai: Just calculated: If all seats sell out (yes I counted all seats and their prices), she'll gross 26.424.016 AED which is 7.2M USD. That's from seats alone (or not can't remember whether I included GA and Golden Ring or not). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Question: Does one VIP table cost 16000-36000 AED or are they single seats? it makes a big difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Question: Does one VIP table cost 16000-36000 AED or are they single seats? it makes a big difference. yes I have the same question :'( Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 yes I have the same question :'( It'd make the difference between a 9M gross and a 5M gross for the Dubai date Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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