chris777 112 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Britney Jean confirmed to miss #1 according to Billboard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Digital sales > Streaming At the end of the day paying for a song that you love is much better than watching some viral video on youtube just because it is viral. It's not like they watched the video for Wrecking Ball. They watched the video for the parody and that's embarassing for the future of the music indutry. All of these "funny" music trends like Gangnam Style, Harlem Shake and The Fox turning into hits is offencive to the industry. I agree that digital sales are more IMportant than streaming, that doesn't mean that Digital sales are bigger Indicator of popularity... FACT: STreaming >>>>>>>>>>> DIgital sales and Obviously I am not talkin about Importance I am talkin about usage. Guys we are on a music forum, please educate yourselves (and please don't get me wrong I am not trying to start argument or to offend you) but Streaming Is way bigger platform for the GP to discover music than Digital retailers like Itunes etc... this Is simply a FACT. And Billboard are also Indicating the Importance of Streaming ... It's a well known fact that more people stream songs Instead of buying, and If streaming Is not Included on the BBHOT100 formula, then the chart Is no longer Indicator of the popularity of the songs, but just of their sales and airplay.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyLife 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Do What U Want #6 France (+4) - Flipping from 5/6 #9 Canada (+1) - About to go 8 #10 United Kingdom (=) - close to 9 #14 Germany (=) - steady at 14 #17 United States (+7) - green updates This is amazing!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Valextra 58 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 more like Billboard Is keeping up with trends I'd say... And I'll say It Again 3 years ago Digital Sales > Streaming Nowadays Streaming>>>>>>>>Digital Sales ... Yes... But it's not fair in my opinion... Also because 'Streaming views' can be easily fake... I remember a thread a few days ago that there was something wrong in 'Roar' views... Infact it's so strange that with ROAR in 2 weeks she was already at 50 millions, and Unc in 2 weeks only 15 millions Too much different! But also famous videos in the past like 'Girlfriend' had fake views... And then the director of Billboard was mad at Gaga only because she said to spam her videos, it's them fault (I mean Billboard), because it's obvious that the fans do those things... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishmonster 11,002 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Do What U Want#6 France (+4) - Flipping from 5/6#9 Canada (+1) - About to go 8#10 United Kingdom (=) - close to 9 #14 Germany (=) - steady at 14#17 United States (+7) - green updates This is amazing!!France #5 and so close from #2! :) buy stupid love on itunes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yes... But it's not fair in my opinion... Also because 'Streaming views' can be easily fake... I remember a thread a few days ago that there was something wrong in 'Roar' views... Infact it's so strange that with ROAR in 2 weeks she was already at 50 millions, and Unc in 2 weeks only 15 millions Too much different! But also famous videos in the past like 'Girlfriend' had fake views... And then the director of Billboard was mad at Gaga only because she said to spam her videos, it's them fault (I mean Billboard), because it's obvious that the fans do those things... Don't worry about that, Billboard has their way In counting only the real views, and they have already said that several times .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorPrince 1 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I agree that digital sales are more IMportant for streaming, that doesn't mean that Digital sales are bigger Indicator of popularity... FACT: STreaming >>>>>>>>>>> DIgital sales and Obviously I am not talkin about Importance I am talkin about usage. Guys we are on a music forum, please educate yourselves (and please don't get me wrong I am not trying to start argument or to offend you) but Streaming Is way bigger platform for the GP to discover music than Digital retailers like Itunes etc... this Is simply a FACT. And Billboard are also Indicating the Importance of Streaming ... It's a well known fact that more people stream songs Instead of buying, and If streaming Is not Included on the BBHOT100 formula, then the chart Is no longer Indicator of the popularity of the songs, but just of their sales and airplay.. It's not like every single stream point is a good indicator of the success of a song. It's misleading to put WB back at #1 because some parody is going viral on the internet. It's not the song that is viral, it's the video of a naked man on omegle pretending to be Miley. Spotify is a good indicator of streaming but Youtube isnt at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyLife 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 France #5 and so close from #2! :) Its quite a bit away from #2 lol yeah its flipping from 5/6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Billboard's way of counting streaming is very flawed, it's guaranteed to be a rule change at some point. It already started today with them saying that streaming will count less from now on compared to sales/radio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 It's not like every single stream point is a good indicator of the success of a song. It's misleading to put WB back at #1 because some parody is going viral on the internet. It's not the song that is viral, it's the video of a naked man on omegle pretending to be Miley. Spotify is a good indicator of streaming but Youtube isnt at all. I already shared my opinion about that matter, I don't want to be repetitive .. But the video Is viral because of the song and Its original video, and Gaga cannot do 60M views In a week and some random guy does It, the song Is being heard by MANY MANY MANY people In that particular week therefore the song Is popular, period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 youtube viral streaming are bull****, nobody who saw that parody was there for the song... it was just the guy being ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Billboard's way of counting streaming is very flawed, it's guaranteed to be a rule change at some point. It already started today with them saying that streaming will count less from now on compared to sales/radio. But why the hell would Radio be counted that much, when It's 100% being manipulated way more than Streaming can be manipulated by fans ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorPrince 1 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I already shared my opinion about that matter, I don't want to be repetitive .. But the video Is viral because of the song and Its original video, and Gaga cannot do 60M views In a week and some random guy does It, the song Is being heard by MANY MANY MANY people In that particular week therefore the song Is popular, period. I still disagree. I also listen to many youtubers background music on their vlogs and that doesnt make it #1 on the Billboard chart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad 32 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Streaming should definitely count towards the Hot 100 but Billboard needs to have stricter rules surrounding Youtube videos. imo they should only count streams from the artist's official channels. If a video goes viral with a song, it's really debatable if that actually reflects the song's popularity or if it's just the content of the video. This year we've seen a few songs get new peaks because of this, like Beyonce's Get Me Bodied because of some doctors dancing while it played in the background. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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