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Andy McQueen

I am a fan and  a long time lurker, first time poster, also connected to the industry.

 

Anyway, I thought I would address some of your meltdowns above and set some things relatively straight. I am not here to bash, just to give some info and also put perspective on things.

 

The reason according to my sources why the video is on hold is because, indeed, Terry and Gaga went all out. It's quite, er, suggestive.

 

The problem is that, you may have not paid attention, but there has been a major R.Kelly backlash in the recent couple of weeks. The mainstream has caught on, even though it's Christmas time, and the whole industry, although most people already knew of his reputation, the Village Voice expose with the court documents posted did a lot of damage.

 

Now, you could say that it doesn't matter, and to R.Kelly it may not. His fanbase will still support him, most likely.

 

But for Gaga, who has been re-building her image, to go from Venus to making out with a publicly known pedophile and abuser, is a huge risk. Interscope does not feel it is a good one this time around. Shock value is good, when it's harmless, in their opinion. Also it's Christmas-time, and the timing of a pretty sleazy video being released just as children are getting their gifts from under the tree....eh.... not ideal. There would be hell to pay from the media who would eat this up - Gaga getting it on with R.Kelly on screen - and all the articles would link back to his online mess.

 

The video is being re-worked. I don't think it will be scrapped, though. The Christina event added to the possibility of her being in the new version but it's not confirmed, as far as I know.

 

Now, as much as Gaga is a powerhouse of ideas, she ALWAYS had brilliant collaborators who helped her filter those ideas. The reason why The Fame and TFM did so well is because there was a cohesiveness to that work, both musically and visually. She deferred to her Haus, management and although still ultra active in the creation of the presentations, she had a TEAM.

 

Now, the team is no longer there. Vince is a great guy, but he was always a yes man to her, not a real partner. It was Troy who guided her in the recent years. The industry was buzzing after their breakup. For Troy to give up his cash cow was unthinkable. Don't make the mistake of thinking that Gaga could just break that contract herself. She does not have THAT much power yet. Interscope owns her hand and foot, it's a 360 deal. For them it was an Event Horizon, not in a good way. So for Troy to depart, and before the cycle started, meant that Gaga was truly acting out and taking the reigns and was impossible to handle.

 

I am not saying it's always a bad thing to walk your own line, but on that level it's very hard to keep an even head. I think this album and the whole era show a lack of cohesiveness. Even BTW, with its flaws, still had an element of 'that something'. People loved or hated it and still do. Some in the fan base are now waxing nostalgic about it. Most people in the GP just don't really...care.

 

Anyway, here's to hoping things will turn around and Gaga acquires a brilliant collaborator/partner/strategist in no time.

OMG, is this really true? :omg: Thanks for sharing your Information. I hope everything will turn out well ... :ohno:

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IF Gypsy slays, Dope.

If it doesn't we're ****ed. There are no radio friendly instant pick ups left.

Sorry my opinion.

 

@Klou: you won't witness having me a meltdown at least, I'm too old for that ****

How old are you tbh :messga: 

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Katy Perry - Unconditionally

 

61.218m  =  -5.812m and -1071 spins.

 

I see radios are gladly taking it off their playlist  :sweat:

 

***and seven songs are having negative updates above DWUW, we MUST make it into the top 10  :cry:

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I had a breakdown here during Applause's debut week where I shed some tears:

It's ok hon none of us are judging :laughga:

My boyfriend would probably dump me if I started crying about Lady Gaga's charting :deadbanana:

I'd think he'd be right to do so, though, I mean something like that should be a deal breaker :awkney:

Ok then she's not reliable anymore

This :manicure:

Y'all ain't ready when ARTPOP is released as a single and becomes another 5M+ seller and her biggest radio hit to date.

On topic: team and uncle are coming for our weave :dead:

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Holy smokes no not that old yet, need another few years but yes above 30

Ohhh, there are lots of 27~35 year olds on this forum though. Most are 15-23 though.

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Ohhh, there are lots of 27~35 year olds on this forum though. Most are 15-23 though.

Yeah I'm 29 and still have meltdowns from time to time. Just because people age doesn't mean they have to lose their emotions and passion for something :awkney:
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She's 18th now. (18 Lady Gaga - Do What U Want (feat. R. Kelly))

 

 

658. Lady Gaga - Do What U Want (feat. R. Kelly & Rick Ross) [DJWS Remix]

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MonsterMum

Yeah I'm 29 and still have meltdowns from time to time. Just because people age doesn't mean they have to lose their emotions and passion for something :awkney:

 

I agree with you to some extent. I'm a spectator and enjoy what she brings to the audience but not so in depth that whatever she does would be able to make or break my day for example. I only meltdown over my own stuff  :sick:

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