Valextra 58 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 will we get more HDD predictions or yesterday was the last one? Better not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenyc 0 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Preach. And we talk about BTW's number's, but that album was also sold for 99 cents. And wasn't it 400k of total album sales that came from that 99 cent sale? And it was sold at the most recent peak in her career? Drop, not flop. Bitch is still successful as ****, y'all are just too caught up in comparing numbers to notice it. And if you keep judging success by numbers, you'll let real talent and a meaningful artist be seen as a "flop" while someone with less dedication and soul is seen as more successful because they got the GP to spend money on an album. Like if y'all wanna compare Gaga to Katy, play them albums side by side and tell me which one is more basic, lackluster, and sounds the same throughout. Give you a hint, it's not ARTPOP. Even though you don't see ARTPOP as the Dominatrix of Pop right now, that's the **** that's gonna be remembered, and it's Gaga's contributions to ART and POP that people will actually look back on. Talking about numbers is fine, but be realistic. If someone is #1 in multiple countries, #2 in more, if their pre-orders broke records, that's not a flop. It may be a drop from what we're used to, but she's certainly not flopping. Get real. Yeah, I guess compared to that site this is pretty tame. But it's still really frustrating. Like #2 is considered flopping in this thread. wtf. Sales that are comparable to other successful artists who are more appealing to the GP is considered flopping. idgi. Yes, amazon sold it for 99 cents, but the reality is that many of those who bought it for 99 cents were simply people who were shopping around for the best price. If you could buy her album from any possible source, why wouldn't you choose the 99 cent amazon version? In other words, they would still have bought it elsewhere but they were simply lured by the very low price point. So don't act like we can simply subtract 400,000 from the total, because that isn't the case. It's more likely that at least half of that total would still have bought the album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 We don't need more predictions really Just give me the damn real numbers and let's get over it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I understand the frustrations. Believe me, I want Gaga to slay with numbers the way she's slaying with content. I want the GP to recognize her talent and her message, and I want her to be on top in every way possible. But some of the posts in this thread are just awful. Referring to her and her album as a "flop" and saying she's "flopping" is so rude. You guys need to understand our frustrations too. We're Moderators trying to maintain a place for fans to connect through Gaga and her work. We've been excited about this album for two years too, and we want to celebrate it. We specifically heard Gaga talk to us about how she likes the rule against Flamebait because she doesn't believe in bashing artists, but then you go into this thread and it's full of her own fans bashing HER. The way people some people respond in this thread go against what she's been speaking out about. We should be understanding her frustrations about this kind of thing as well. We know it's not everyone in here being rude towards Gaga, but when I go back 10 pages and end up with 8 warning points given out for Flamebait towards the person this site is about, all with links to the Chartflop thread (http://gagadaily.com/index.php?showtopic=59306) which was specifically created to STOP those kinds of posts in this thread, that says something. I agree with this completely. She isn't flopping. People are acting ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Yes, amazon sold it for 99 cents, but the reality is that many of those who bought it for 99 cents were simply people who were shopping around for the best price. If you could buy her album from any possible source, why wouldn't you choose the 99 cent amazon version? In other words, they would still have bought it elsewhere but they were simply lured by the very low price point. So don't act like we can simply subtract 400,000 from the total, because that isn't the case. It's more likely that at least half of that total would still have bought the album. Or they were people saying "Well, it's only a dollar so why not?" and fans who probably bought a TON of copies since it was only a buck. Ten albums for the price of one? Yes, please. But all these reasons are speculation and guesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyMoonShine 0 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 i think she needs to release some video's, It'l be good for promotion. I hope the DWUW vid will be amazing and if it is it should helpt the song become a hit and she could release a kooky video for venus seeing as she seems dead set on promoting that song. Nothing too crazy just something Over the top and fun that everyone would wanna go and watch, that would help people warm to the song and help sell the album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris777 112 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Just posting an artist's video in this thread isn't exactly contributing to discussion or on topic, is it? I guess you'd have to explain to me why those videos would have a place in the thread before we could officially decide. because the videos always have an effect on the charts, we always discussed if it could help or not. idk why suddenly give wp's for that when it has happened before. anyway, I was just asking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 20. Katy Perry - Unconditionally 21. Katy Perry - Dark Horse (feat. Juicy J) Not again The GP are not having it. Unconditionally is awful, imo, and the way "UNCONDITIOOONNNAAAALLLLLL----YYYY" is sung just makes me cringe, but I really think Dark Horse is good and I don't understand why it isn't higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Stan Was Born 670 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I agree that some of these meltdowns are completely rude. I saw someone a few pages back call Gaga a b---h. Really? That's a bit overkill, especially if she's your fave. Clearly wasn't meant as a term of endearment, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 because the videos always have an effect on the charts, we always discussed if it could help or not. idk why suddenly give wp's for that when it has happened before. anyway, I was just asking Oh...I guess it'd be fine, but if someone just pops in and posts a video it seems out of place? Like more information with the video would be more relevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris777 112 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 We don't need more predictions really Just give me the damn real numbers and let's get over it... we need more numbers I need to see if SNL makes some impact on her sales Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 ARTPOP reached #1 with preorders in most country. But no it isn't the most preordered album. Even 20/20 experience had more preorders ;) ARTPOP did great with preorders however. She still has a sizeable fanbase. Oh. I'm a flop. Totally misinterpreted the articles. But most #1s for a preorder...still, man. Can't we be proud of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyMoonShine 0 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Unconditionally is awful, imo, and the way "UNCONDITIOOONNNAAAALLLLLL----YYYY" is sung just makes me cringe, but I really think Dark Horse is good and I don't understand why it isn't higher. Well at least it's better than Roar, sort of. :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingMore 1,701 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Its VERY possible for Applause to be above Roar after SNL. Finally! :giveup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgusPop 4,141 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Screw off, you've been mad at everyone that was right about her tanking numbers since you don't wanna face reality. Back to my break! Good luck to the rest of you till next week :P XO Hun, I dont care the figures I'm here for the music. Gaga's music makes me happy. I will pray for you and your obsession for the charts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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