nick4bty 2,758 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Yeah, Venus is definitely more "Gaga" than DWUW. I imagine people that have never liked Gaga to not like Venus or Aura. Yupp. And assuming Venus would be as successful as Applause, it still has the same ceiling that a "typical" Gaga song would have. Although I still think the chances of it being as successful as Applause are minimum. DWUW is the type of song that can break that ceiling, and imo that's what Gaga needs most right now. The more diverse her image is the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
What is OBAMA 0 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I hope DOPE will get that number 1 expourse ! possible since there aren't big new releases coming next monday IRONIC BUT TRUE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 DWUW was around 2.9M views after its first 2 days then it got restricted if that hadn't happenned the song would be around 8-10M right now Exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,901 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 DWUW was around 2.9M views after its first 2 days then it got restricted if that hadn't happenned the song would be around 8-10M right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty 2,758 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 It would be nice of streaming can keep DWUW from plummeting down the Hot 100 next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,901 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 It would be nice of streaming can keep DWUW from plummeting down the Hot 100 next week. yeah, to stay in TOP 30 would be nice... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo 6 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 If Prism had 88K pre-orders and ARTPOP has 120K, that would mean ARTPOP should debut with 390K. 120*286/88 = 390K 88K was not the number of Prism pre-orders though (unless you have other info to suggest that?). 88K was the difference between the actual and predicted sales of Roar last week which is the number of 'Complete My Albums'. But a lot of Complete My Albums are not by way of any pre-order but by people who just bought the single then the album when it was released. Probably not more than half that 88K was pre-orders. When WOA and DH were released the number of auto-preorder downloads were only in the 15-20K range incidentally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 88K was not the number of Prism pre-orders though (unless you have other info to suggest that?). 88K was the difference between the actual and predicted sales of Roar last week which is the number of 'Complete My Albums'. But a lot of Complete My Albums are not by way of any pre-order but by people who just bought the single then the album when it was released. Probably not more than half that 88K was pre-orders. When WOA and DH were released the number of auto-preorder downloads were only in the 15-20K range incidentally. What do you think about the HDD prediction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo 6 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 What do you think about the HDD prediction? http://gagadaily.com/index.php?showtopic=69739&p=3627468 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 If Prism had 88K pre-orders and ARTPOP has 120K, that would mean ARTPOP should debut with 390K. 120*286/88 = 390K Maybe Gaga has more non-pop fans (older adults, fans of other genres) who are less likely to pre-order or buy itunes. I think they're low-balling Gaga Big album sellers tend to repeat. Girls who sell 200k have an almost impossible time increasing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 http://gagadaily.com/index.php?showtopic=69739&p=3627468 thank you :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 88K was not the number of Prism pre-orders though (unless you have other info to suggest that?). 88K was the difference between the actual and predicted sales of Roar last week which is the number of 'Complete My Albums'. But a lot of Complete My Albums are not by way of any pre-order but by people who just bought the single then the album when it was released. Probably not more than half that 88K was pre-orders. When WOA and DH were released the number of auto-preorder downloads were only in the 15-20K range incidentally. Okay I had a misunderstanding then. If that's the case, then my formula would put ARTPOP at way more than 390K. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee 2,528 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Yes, despite what a lot of people say/think, Gaga is a HUGE physical seller. I think on average the ratio is like 70% physical 30% digital (I don't know the exact numbers...), but I would expect something like that for ARTPOP. So considering how good digital preorder sales already are, I don't think a 400k+ debut is out of the question. With Born This Way, the album, digital sales accounted for about 40% of total album sales (936,000 digital copies and 2,300,000 copies sold in total) With The Fame/The Fame Monster the situation is more complicated. The Fame is listed in the top selling digital albums of all time in the USA, having sold over 1,057,000 digital copies. As we all know, The Fame sales (4,525,000) include those editions where the album was sold as a double-CD with both, The Fame and The Fame Monster. Besides, The Fame Monster EP itself also sold over 1,566,000 copies. I don't know if The Fame digital sales also include those digital packages where The Fame was downloaded together with The Fame Monster. Anyway, her digital sales with The Fame/The Fame Monster account for just 23% (or even 17%). A smaller proportion of digital sales for The Fame/The Fame Monster is likely to represent the fact that her first two albums were more crossover with the general public and casual music fans. Cause if you take a look at the digital sales, then you'll see the Born This Way numbers are not that far away from The Fame (936,000 vs 1,057,000 respectively). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviddarko 144 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 DWUW is unblocked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo 6 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Okay I had a misunderstanding then. If that's the case, then my formula would put ARTPOP at way more than 390K. It would put it at more like 780K then! - but don't want to expect that much - I'm thinking 550K ish. - and don't use that formula for One Direction whatever you do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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