Gaga's egocentrism is turning me off and making her "flop"

[SayCart 8]

no, shes the most famous person in the world. YOU are a flop, not her.

:toofunny:

[Lips de Jolie 0]

I guess time will tell if we're truly on a sinking ship or if many of us are just being over dramatic. Hopefully it's the second.

[Emvee 8,408]

You're looking at this the wrong way. Her music will be her music, her artistry will be her artistry. It's authentic because it comes from her and the people she trusts - as opposed to the manufactured pop that is "slaying" right now. She's not gonna let some snot nose fan or a mess of a blogger tell her she's doing something wrong when she's not. There is nothing wrong with her approach. Sure, it may not have mass appeal because it's not marketed to be that way. That is HER ideology.

 

If you're looking for something that's marketable, look elsewhere, because Gaga has shown us since BTW and even TFM that that's not really who she is. I don't even know why fans are still forcing this as if Gaga's had been hugely successful and praised for a decade already. She hasn't. The Fame was one thing. This is another.

Edited October 3, 2013 by Fading

[Mr Ricky 9,056]

Not you guys judging DJWS.

 

Gtfo man, she atleast not tried to pull off a wannabe Clarity / Summertime Sadness song.

 

Applause is just great as it is, it's not even ruining her career. It was the fcking controversy from BTW which made the GP back off from her. And she is now regaining health from her tiny fall. 

 

Jesus. People complaining about the producer, fcking mess. Instead of supporting Gaga, because she apparently likes DJWS to be her producer, you all just have to bash the **** out of him. 

 

Edited October 3, 2013 by Xerath

[aaronyoji 2,054]

I think all of you are not happy about applause and it's video just because the song is not number one on itunes, billboard 100 and the video does not have like 200 million views. If applause would be a smash, you all would be praising gaga and applause to heavens! numbers dictate your opinion about gaga and her songs. sad. 

exactly. couldnt have said it better :clap:

[eddy223 0]

thats the fuking thing tho, people werent begging for the opposite, quite frankly shes done all fans want her to do now/ applause isnt controversial, the video isnt long at all, shes working with professional directors, and yes, inez and vinoodh are professional for the 1000th time, she made a lyric video for extra views, even though shes never been interested in making one, shes been stripping down her aesthetic, shes seen as prettier by others, which, shouldnt even be our concern, but somehow we need to please straight guys' labito in order to feel good about ourselves, and shes been making fun, light songs that have nothing to do with the ARTPOP philosophy, aside from like, 3 songs. 

 

quite frankly, shes doing everything fans where shouting at her months ago, but now everyone is telling her its too safe, its not what we want, shes not number 1 so therefore shes failing, i mean enough! 

 

Yea but you're missing one big point. The lead single. 

Who in their right mind releases a non relateable almost didn't make the cut single as a "comeback?"

It doesn't make sense. 

its just my opinion though, I get what you're saying and she is trying, but she should have tried harder from the get go.

[Buddy 5,686]

...............

 

Is this why everything is done with GagaDaily?

 

ONE opinion! 300+ replies????

 

OK you guys, I'm going to look at the positives.  From my interpretation, part of ARTPOP is she wants people (especially her fans) to discuss her ART. You guys have gone above and beyond in this discussion.

I want Gaga to be successful this era, and part of me wonders why she hasn't been promoting Applause to the extent I wished her to, but I have faith she's saving her energy for ARTPOP.

 

If she doesn't, then so be it. IF YOUR LOVE FOR GAGA IS DEPENDENT ON HER SUCCESS THEN YOU ARE A FAN FOR THE WRONG REASON. YOU'RE ARE BLINDED BY POP CULTURE. GAGA, IN MY OPINION, IS MORE THAN THAT.

[Cheezr 37]

I'm starting to wonder about this myself, it's like some ggd myth that people have picked up on and suddenly everyone is repeating it like sheep

 

 

 

Explain this though, like you said, she's "egocentric" and thinks everything she does is "gold" right? So what makes you think she'll listen to professionals?

 

I guess it can come from the Elton John thing. But I take what any celebrity says as a grain of salt. i.e Reductive  :reductive:

[aaronyoji 2,054]

Yea but you're missing one big point. The lead single. 

Who in their right mind releases a non relateable almost didn't make the cut single as a "comeback?"

It doesn't make sense. 

its just my opinion though, I get what you're saying and she is trying, but she should have tried harder from the get go.

relatable is bs. no one cares about whats relatable. do you think the average pop listener can relate to million dollar rings and yachts and partying every single weekend at some club that no one can get into? no, no one lives like that, and yet thats played on the radio all the time. thats why royals is number 1, it basically explains the idea of pop music and fantasy. if people want relatable, they can go watch sesame street. 

 

and for the record, applause is very very relatable. we can relate to it as the audience applauding, just as gaga relates to it as the performer. if gaga had existed in shakesperean times, people would've loved that she wrote a big catchy song about applause. but, i guess nostalgia is for geeks.... :sigh: 

[Crash 11]

Yea but you're missing one big point. The lead single. 

Who in their right mind releases a non relateable almost didn't make the cut single as a "comeback?"

It doesn't make sense. 

its just my opinion though, I get what you're saying and she is trying, but she should have tried harder from the get go.

Go ask Jimmy Irving then, because from what we've learnt, it was his idea to release Applause as the single and he's a "professional" like the people here have been asking for.

[drbumblenut 48]

She's not egocentric, she's an artist who has said repeatedly that her ongoing project is fame itself.

 

Doesn't mean she's always going to top the charts, it just means she controls the vision of her art project. I would suggest taking anything Gaga says and does with a grain of salt, because she is constantly IN CHARACTER as the most famous pop star in the world. Sometimes she will be, sometimes she won't be, but she's always on point with her observations about fame. 

 

Meanwhile, her music is awesome. And she seems to be having a blast making it.

 

That is all

Edited October 3, 2013 by drbumblenut

[Lips de Jolie 0]

I remember when Gaga worked with established producers such as Dark Child (who has produced for Michael Jackson, Beyonce etc.) and experienced music video directors such as Francis Lawrence (has directed for Britney Spears, ***Cat Dolls etc.)

Edited October 3, 2013 by Lips de Jolie

[Redstreak 6,653]

I don't understand how you can block a user when he just gave his opinion. You were very rude and i think you should readmit Swine because everyone of us has freedom to express ourselves. So if you are fair people you will reconsider. I think Gaga will be very sad if she knows what is happenning here.

 

SWINE USER WAS BLOCKED FROM GAGADAILY JUST BECAUSE HE SHARED HIS THOUGHTS.

 

Please, fight against this unfair situation.

What are you talking about? He's still here and online right now.

[cometoogg 0]

he's not banned

 

What are you talking about? He's still here and online right now.

 

ikr

[eddy223 0]

relatable is bs. no one cares about whats relatable. do you think the average pop listener can relate to million dollar rings and yachts and partying every single weekend at some club that no one can get into? no, no one lives like that, and yet thats played on the radio all the time. thats why royals is number 1, it basically explains the idea of pop music and fantasy. if people want relatable, they can go watch sesame street. 

 

and for the record, applause is very very relatable. we can relate to it as the audience applauding, just as gaga relates to it as the performer. if gaga had existed in shakesperean times, people would've loved that she wrote a big catchy song about applause. but, i guess nostalgia is for geeks.... :sigh: 

 

This is what I mean by delusional stans. No shade but you really aren't seeing the picture here. Iv'e heard so many people around my University saying they don't hate applause, but they also don't love it, and its because its not relatable. The song is about being on stage and adoring the praise you get from it, which practically no one really does so this in no way can be relatable to the general public who doesn't think deeper about lyrics like Gaga fans do. Songs about Cars and money are relatable because people can easily see themselves in that lifestyle, becoming rich and powerful. Its a matter of what people want and see themselves doing in their imaginary worlds, and people imagine themselves to have tons of cars and party nonstop, not go on stage and live for the applause people give you.