A Meta Trial Loss Could End The Social Media We Know

[gagzus 23,793]

1 hour ago, JustJames said:

Huh? Almost none of that is correct. No, at least in the United States, where this lawsuit is taking place, free speech is absolutely NOT “just a law that stops the government from being able to control public opinion.”  And the standard of free speech is absolutely NOT “if you can complain about not having free speech, and the government doesn’t execute you.” North Korea doesn’t have free speech, correct. That doesn’t mean that its implementation is the only way of restricting it. 

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with hate crimes in the United States, either. You need to actually commit a crime first, which would carry consequences regardless, to be charged with a hate crime.

“Freedom of speech (often referred to as freedom of expression) is a fundamental human right that protects an individual's ability to voice their opinions, beliefs, and ideas without government censorship, interference, or retaliation.”

“Limitations and restrictions of Freedom of Speech include: Incitement of Violence, Unlawful Acts, Defamation, Harassment, Threats, Breaches of National Security, Confidentiality and Official Secrets”

That’s a lawful definition of Freedom of Speech for democratic societies.
 

And this definition is part of The First Amendment in the US, with the only addition being that hate speech is also protected, meaning you can openly say gay people deserve to die and should all be murdered, but you cannot spur on/incite someone to commit it nor attempt to commit it yourself. In the US it falls under Conspiracy and Criminal Solicitation and both are illegal.

Freedom of Speech is exactly that — speech. Actions and plans are not protected by it only speech/belief/thought is.

So yes, freedom of speech in the US is exactly the same as every other democratic society WITH the only addition being about protected hate speech.

So YES actually the baseline of FoS is in fact in laments terms; a law that stops the government from controlling/interfering with public opinion. Which includes your ability to debate and express freedom of speech or oppression of it. 

In Authoritarian countries and dictatorships (like North Korea) you in fact, cannot discuss or imply that you have no freedom of speech without consequences.

In fact any form of criticism is classified as treason in North Korea, and guilt by association is also a thing where your whole family is affected by your criticism. You can also be jailed for accessing any foreign media. And anyone guilty of treason is executed.

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[Ricardo 8,146]

sounds bad... for the billionaires behind them

[Bronco 26,554]

1 hour ago, JustJames said:

Huh? Almost none of that is correct. No, at least in the United States, where this lawsuit is taking place, free speech is absolutely NOT “just a law that stops the government from being able to control public opinion.”  And the standard of free speech is absolutely NOT “if you can complain about not having free speech, and the government doesn’t execute you.” North Korea doesn’t have free speech, correct. That doesn’t mean that its implementation is the only way of restricting it. 

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with hate crimes in the United States, either. You need to actually commit a crime first, which would carry consequences regardless, to be charged with a hate crime.

I love how you've said they're wrong (and I'm not saying they are right from a US perspective) and then done nothing to actually set out what they got wrong.

[LOVEDRUG 11,299]

Social media is absolutely fantastic as a technology. It was through social media that I met my partner of six years.

However, I absolutely do not trust many of the companies behind the big social media platforms at the moment. It doesn't need to be that way either. Twitter's leadership pre-Musk was fairly level-headed, for example, even if they didn't get every call right.

[TheSine 6,932]

[robotvoiceinalice 2,124]

i remember around 15 years ago these social media platforms were all about showing you what your friends were upto and keeping up with your friends, and in chronological order may i add, now its all a push to promote content creators based on what you like and stuff to keep you addicted

i hope this gets rid of the "algorithm" and lets us get back to connecting with friends 

[zevthepaparazzo 2,509]

8 hours ago, EART HL I NG said:

Good make those dumb ass kids go outside and maybe read a book or two

the other day i had to explain to this 13 year old boy i teach that the sun and the moon are NOT the same object